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post #1 of 25
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I have an 9 month old who I am not planning to vaccinate (he hasn't received any so far). I read these forums religiously and also do a lot of research on my own. I am just interested in your personal ways of keeping your kids healthy/healing your children when sick. I have heard of probiotics, SA, etc.
I'm interested in schedules, list of what is in your medicine cabinet, etc. I like getting real peoples ideas and experiences.
Thank you.
post #2 of 25
Your best bet to keep your child healthy is to NOT vaccinate, give the child only healthy food, and when he does get an infection (which is bound to happen), don't treat the fever.

Don't forget you want your child to have infections, that builds a strong immune system.

We would like to have measles in our family.
post #3 of 25
For treating childhood illnesses...have some VitC and hydrogen peroxide on hand.

IMO, a little black walnut hull and olive leaf can help.

Some people have good results with oil of oregano.

I personally keep a little "kid kit" that has quick-dissolve tablets of chamommila (sp) belladonna, arnica, etc for all the little issues of teething, bruising, fever, tummy aches, what have you.

If you follow a healthy lifestyle, particularly diet, the only real focus when/if your child gets sick is to keep them hydrated and comfortable.
post #4 of 25
Lets see.... In our "medicine" cabinet we have elderberry which is antiviral, vit c, we have eucalyptus oil that we put on the kids collar or in the humidifier, GSE for all sorts of things, tea tree oil for cuts, colliodal silver, we keep llysine on hand because my dd gets cold sores. We usually don't fights fevers unless we need to get some sleep. Although my dh is a huge fan af thera flu for himself!! My kids have never been real sick. My dd has been exposed to chicken pox twice, and never got them!! We eat healthy and take our vitamins.....
post #5 of 25
For minor scrapes and cuts, we either do nothing or wash it off with water and soap. For the rare, more serious cut, we use hydrogen peroxide. For the extremely rare (only happened once in 5 years) really bad cut, we do all of the above and bandage with antibacterial ointment, flushing with hydrogen peroxide several times a day, too.

For vomiting/yuck-butt illnesses, we do water and pedialyte. I learned how to keep an eye on dehydration (there are at-home tests you can do to verify that a kid is or isn't seriously dehydrated). Very small, but frequent sips of pedialyte are the way to go there. And if that doesn't work, you gotta go to the ER for IV fluids if your kid is becoming dehydrated. And if your kid has a really serious gut virus, you have to keep a very, very close eye on their hydration. It's miserable for everyone, but you have to both watch them closely for signs of dehydration, and also do whatever it takes to keep them taking sips of fluid to hopefully prevent dehydration.

For colds and flu-like stuff, we basically never use fever reducers. Fever is your friend. I will medicate with something like tylenol for pain, but not for fever. Just throw the thermometor away. Fever from a pathogen won't go high enough for long enough to cause brain damage or anything like that. We take vitamin c, since it's probably useful in both treating and preventing invasive bacterial stuff. When we're cold from fever, we get in a hot bath (I personally suspect that the fever chills have a purpose) and the steam also helps you get rid of snot and keep airways clear.

My medicine cabinet doesn't hold much medicine. Whenever we get some OTC product, we get it on the spur of the moment and use it once (and usually, we never even end up using it), and the bulk of it expires before being used again. And I think a vast majority of the "natural" stuff is probably a scam.

Electrolytes, hot baths, and rest/sleep are my "method".
If a kid of mine had a serious or "threatening to become serious" bacterial infection, I'd have no problem doing antibiotics. We do go see the doc when the kids are sick with anything more than an obviously tiny cold, tho. And so far, the doc has just sent us home saying it looks like a virus, and instructing us to come back if it gets worse. And so far it's never gotten worse.
We're also fortunate to have, like, the coolest doc ever. And if you don't have a doc you really love, I think it's worth looking for one, even if it will take you a year or more to find him or her.
Our MD is a family doc, and we had to "shop around" to find the right doc for us, but it was SO worth it. So I think a good doc who you don't dread seeing should be be in your "medicine cabinet".
post #6 of 25
So far DS has not really been sick. He had croup, but my fear of him ever having croup was much worse than the reality. Yeah, rough sleeping for 3 nights, but manageable.

I was just able to nurse him through it (as in breastfeed)

I have by no means come to a final understanding of how I will treat each illness. I won't be bringing fevers down with drugs . I will be using whatever I can from herbs, homeopathy and diet before we try anything like antibiotics/steroids. I would need a very convincing case to use such strong medication.

I am actually in the process of building up my first aid/medicine kit.... so far:
TTO
Lavender oil
Eucalyptus oil
Hydrogen peroxide
Calendula tincture
Echanacia tincure
Propolis
Vit C
Arnica drops, pills, ointment
Homeopathic kit for pretty much everything
Saline solution for nose
Rescue Remedy

Now that DS is more active and getting around all over the house and garden, I had best hurry up. I am sure there will more that I add
post #7 of 25
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Originally Posted by mamakay View Post
For minor scrapes and cuts, we either do nothing or wash it off with water and soap. For the rare, more serious cut, we use hydrogen peroxide. For the extremely rare (only happened once in 5 years) really bad cut, we do all of the above and bandage with antibacterial ointment, flushing with hydrogen peroxide several times a day, too.

And if your kid has a really serious gut virus, you have to keep a very, very close eye on their hydration. It's miserable for everyone, but you have to both watch them closely for signs of dehydration, and also do whatever it takes to keep them taking sips of fluid to hopefully prevent dehydration.

For colds and flu-like stuff, we basically never use fever reducers. Fever is your friend. I will medicate with something like tylenol for pain, but not for fever. Just throw the thermometor away.

We take vitamin c, since it's probably useful in both treating and preventing invasive bacterial stuff.

My medicine cabinet doesn't hold much medicine. Whenever we get some OTC product, we get it on the spur of the moment and use it once (and usually, we never even end up using it), and the bulk of it expires before being used again.

If a kid of mine had a serious or "threatening to become serious" bacterial infection, I'd have no problem doing antibiotics.

And if you don't have a doc you really love, I think it's worth looking for one, even if it will take you a year or more to find him or her.

Our MD is a family doc, and we had to "shop around" to find the right doc for us, but it was SO worth it. So I think a good doc who you don't dread seeing should be be in your "medicine cabinet".
All of this.

In addition to vitamins and Emer'Gen-C, we keep hydrogen peroxide, adult & kid formulations of ibuprofen (for pain, not fever), regular Sudafed (because I have seasonal issues with my sinuses), and a few basic things to help relieve specific cold/flu symptoms at bedtime (because nobody can rest, otherwise) - plus one-time purchases for specific issues (like Zyrtec for a case of unexplained hives) and DH's meds for blood pressure and cholesterol. We also have an entire cabinet dedicated to diabetic supplies, and insulin in the fridge.

I also believe in the importance of decent nutrition, adequate rest, exercise, and being vigilant about proper hydration when a kid is sick (especially with fever and/or gastro illness).
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by ema-adama View Post
So far DS has not really been sick. He had croup, but my fear of him ever having croup was much worse than the reality. Yeah, rough sleeping for 3 nights, but manageable.

I was just able to nurse him through it (as in breastfeed)

I have by no means come to a final understanding of how I will treat each illness. I won't be bringing fevers down with drugs . I will be using whatever I can from herbs, homeopathy and diet before we try anything like antibiotics/steroids. I would need a very convincing case to use such strong medication.

I am actually in the process of building up my first aid/medicine kit.... so far:
TTO
Lavender oil
Eucalyptus oil
Hydrogen peroxide
Calendula tincture
Echanacia tincure
Propolis
Vit C
Arnica drops, pills, ointment
Homeopathic kit for pretty much everything
Saline solution for nose
Rescue Remedy

Now that DS is more active and getting around all over the house and garden, I had best hurry up. I am sure there will more that I add
I'm sorry, what is TTO? I'm not great with the forum talk yet
post #9 of 25
Sorry, Tea Tree Oil... which I dilute in olive oil if I am putting it on DS's skin after a scrape.
post #10 of 25
Not argumentative:

Isn't hydrogen peroxide (and alcohol) discouraged for cuts due to its erosive properties? I thought they did studies and found out it tears at the edges of the skin, making it harder for the skin to heal together. JW
post #11 of 25
The most important thing in my virtual medicine cabinet is prevention and optimizing health. That means we eat good food, minimize sugar (it's an immune system depressant), stay hydrated, breastfeed as long as possible (dd is 3 and is still nursing), get plenty of rest, exposure to sunshine, digging in the dirt, exercise and fresh air as much as possible. We wash our hands with soap (not antibacterial) and water. We also try to minimize stress as much as possible, especially for DD. We have a loose daily rhythm (most definitely NOT a schedule), we let her know what is happening next, and she is not in any type of group care situation. We also minimize exposure to environmental allergies/pollution by keeping our home clean, decreasing dust, and not using any conventional cleaners (vinegar and baking soda work great for most any household task).

Other things we have on hand are:
Emergen-C
Sodium Ascorbate
TempAssure by Herbs for Kids (we do not do any fever reducers at all and this product helps to support her system when she has a fever)
Good quality probiotics
Cod Liver Oil and Butter Oil
Echinacea and Golden Seal tinctures
Wound care is usually with soap and water (we do have hydrogen peroxide on hand just in case but would only use it in the case of a very dirty wound)

I'll pop back in if I think of anything else.
post #12 of 25
I checked hydrogen peroxide out. It is not recommended for daily use, but can be used in a 50% solution occasionally... . same for alcohol. It is something I would want to use for a deeper more serious/dirty wound. Not every scrape and minor cut.
post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by claddaghmom View Post
Isn't hydrogen peroxide (and alcohol) discouraged for cuts due to its erosive properties? I thought they did studies and found out it tears at the edges of the skin, making it harder for the skin to heal together. JW
Do you have a link? AFAIK hydrogen peroxide is an excellent antiseptic.


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Originally Posted by ema-adama View Post
I checked hydrogen peroxide out. It is not recommended for daily use, but can be used in a 50% solution occasionally... . same for alcohol. It is something I would want to use for a deeper more serious/dirty wound. Not every scrape and minor cut.
OMG, I wouldn't put alcohol on an open wound. OUCH.
post #14 of 25
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Originally Posted by spero View Post
Do you have a link? AFAIK hydrogen peroxide is an excellent antiseptic.




OMG, I wouldn't put alcohol on an open wound. OUCH.
nak

Hi, it's just kind of everywhere. I would get a link but my laptop is acting up.

From what I understand, ethanol alcohol kills germs and hydrogen peroxide is good at flushing foreign objects out of the wound. Povidone-iodine (betadine solution) might be better than both.

The idea is that alcohol and HP kill the cells in the wound, impairing healing. Some general parenting sites (aka Parent magazine) recommend using an antibiotic like Neosporin (sp) but I haven't seen it proven as the most effective out there.

Of course, this is just general knowledge from some studies that were done a couple years ago. There is still a lot of personal interpretation. For example, the healing process does not begin immediately, so immediately using alcohol or HP might not matter, but using it throughout the healing process could be detrimental, if that makes sense. And some people believe in the oxygenation affect of HP.

And I used to apply alcohol all the time. I don't recall it stinging too badly. That nasty spray stuff always scared the bejeebers out of my little siblings, but they would let me pour alcohol on the cuts and scrapes.
post #15 of 25
Hydrogen peroxide does slow the healing time, but it's mega-effective at preventing infection, so I only use it when I'm dealing with an infection-prone type of cut.
post #16 of 25
We've only used HP when initially cleansing a wound, not regularly afterward. If it appears that infection may become an issue we'll use a topical antibiotic (like Neosporin or Bacitracin) sparingly until the wound looks like it's healing. Overuse of topical abx has been linked to the recent rise in MRSA, so "sparingly" is the operative word for us.
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by Gitti View Post
Your best bet to keep your child healthy is to NOT vaccinate, give the child only healthy food, and when he does get an infection (which is bound to happen), don't treat the fever.

Don't forget you want your child to have infections, that builds a strong immune system.

We would like to have measles in our family.
ITA. I would add that when my daughter (a toddler) gets ill, instead of masking the fever with tylenol, we monitor her closely, and give her smoothies--made from strawberries, blueberries, bananas, and orange juice. i also continue to nurse her.

also, i don't push her to eat if she's not hungry. i offer, but if she's not interested, i focus on keeping her hydrated and as comfortable as possible.

i regard fevers as a good thing in that they are doing what they're supposed to be doing--fighting an infection.

all that being said, we don't vax, and my daughter has been sick 3 times, all very mild and short-lived. she's 28 months old.

don't be surprised if you encounter few illnesses with your little one. with healthy foods, not vaxing, and plenty of fresh air and sunshine, you'll probably find illnesses just don't happen that often!

good luck!
post #18 of 25
You would not find Tylenol anywhere in the house. We believe fever is beneficial, and we do not treat it. Children's fevers have gotten up to 105, but usually stay under 103.5.

You would find sodium ascorbate, probiotics. and DHA pills which the kids love to eat! (I don't understand why they like them--they taste fishy).
post #19 of 25
Here's our list:

colloidal silver - internally and externally for all manner of bacterial infections

oregon grape - specifically for viral stuff (but I also see viruses different than most people. I don't see them as horrible, invasive creatures that our trying to hurt us. I see them more as co-workers in creating a living space that works for both)

arnica - for all types of bumps and bruises

echinacea

acidophilus and bifidophilus

chewable elderberry

vitamin c - we like emergen-c the most

essential oils like lemon and lavender (burns)

charcoal - toxic overload / poisoning

tooth soap

chlorophyll

oil pulling with my oldest child (sesame)

We have close friends who are involved in the health field (acupuncturist, naturopaths, herbalist and a chiropractor)

I'm not sure what your beliefs in health are, but we are very aware of the electro-magnetic properties of cell phones and the like. We avoid overexposure and utilize EMF in our favor with a variety of technologies (such as discovered by Rife). I know a lot of people ridicule this, but people sometimes make fun of that which they don't understand. I have 20 years of being around stuff most people have never heard of.

Also, a biggee for us is stay away from synthetics that cause side effects. We don't want to be spending all of our time dealing with side effects, hence the reason we avoid vaccinations, tylenol, etc. I think this and trusting the body are the keys to health. Let fevers run their course. Lots of rest when under the weather. Good exposure to sunshine with outside time. Not avoiding germs like the plague. Good nutrition. Exercise. Keeping stress at a minumum. Ignoring the fearmongering. Having faith that God is smarter than I am.

Good luck
post #20 of 25
Here's our list:

colloidal silver - internally and externally for all manner of bacterial infections

oregon grape - specifically for viral stuff (but I also see viruses different than most people. I don't see them as horrible, invasive creatures that our trying to hurt us. I see them more as co-workers in creating a living space that works for both)

arnica - for all types of bumps and bruises

echinacea

chewable elderberry

vitamin c - we like emergen-c the most

essential oils like lemon and lavender (burns)

charcoal - toxic overload / poisoning

tooth soap

chlorophyll

oil pulling with my oldest child (sesame)

We have close friends who are involved in the health field (acupuncturist, naturopaths, herbalist and a chiropractor)

I'm not sure what your beliefs in health are, but we are very aware of the electro-magnetic properties of cell phones and the like. We avoid overexposure and utilize EMF in our favor with a variety of technologies (such as discovered by Rife). I know a lot of people ridicule this, but people sometimes make fun of that which they don't understand. I have 20 years of being around stuff most people have never heard of.

Also, a biggee for us is stay away from synthetics that cause side effects. We don't want to be spending all of our time dealing with side effects, hence the reason we avoid vaccinations, tylenol, etc. I think this and trusting the body are the keys to health. Let fevers run their course. Lots of rest when under the weather. Good exposure to sunshine with outside time. Not avoiding germs like the plague. Good nutrition. Exercise. Keeping stress at a minumum. Ignoring the fearmongering. Having faith that God is smarter than I am.

Good luck
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