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post #1 of 20
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My workplace has no place set up for pumping. It's a large corporation so I was a bit surprised. I contacted HR when I was 4mos along (currently 8mos along) and they're supposedly working on something. My DH works for the same parent company but at a different and much larger location. Although, my location has 6000 employees so it's not exactly small. DH asked his HR if they had something for nursing employees and was told that the women just use the locker room.

My HR hasn't told me to do this yet but my department will be meeting with HR next week and I may have the opportunity to speak to the VP of HR in private. He is supposedly in the loop on this. I got an update a few weeks ago from an HR manager and was told that the VP said they'd try to accommodate me but no promises. The locker room is connected to the bathroom just like something found at a gym. The only electrical outlet is in the bathroom area although the pump I'm planning on getting is the Medela hands free so the outlet isn't an issue for me like it might be for others. The only place to sit is on a bench. I'll have to pump on my lunch break and I'm expecting that I'll have to pump and eat at the same time which is why I'm forking over the money for the hands free pump. And (at the risk of sounding really petty) I'm not too excited about either sitting on the floor and using the bench as a table for my food or sitting on the bench hunched over to eat. And this is a pretty busy locker room especially during the times I'll need to pump. There are a few private changing cubicles but then I'll be sitting on the floor and using the floor as a table for my food. I know pumping in a bathroom at work is thought of to be not acceptable but what about a locker room like this? If the VP of HR suggests this, should I politely decline and ask for something more sanitary? If this is what other locations do then it'd be reasonable for them to tell me to do the same. I've been looking for pumping moms in there and I've never seen one.

I'm not expecting HR to come through for me so I spoke to my immediate boss and we found a private place in our work area that I can use during the times I'll need it. I'm not going to tell HR this because I'd like to see them come through for me and future moms. Either way, I won't be pumping in the bathroom or locker room but I just wanted to ask if a locker room falls into the same disgust category as a bathroom.
post #2 of 20
I don't know about the disgust factor, but from a comfort perspective it sounds awful. I think the minimum requirements for a place to pump should be a chair, a table, a door, and an electrical outlet.
post #3 of 20
For me, the biggest "ick" factor in a bathroom is the ... uh ... waste products that are deposited there and spread through the area when flushing. The second biggest ick would probably be that so many people wander through, use the facilities, and (waaay too often) don't wash their hands, thus further spreading the germs around the room's surfaces.

The locker room doesn't have the first ick, but definitely has the second--particularly as it is attached to a bathroom.

The fact that there is no good place to sit (no back support) and no appropriate place to set either the pump or your food is not icky in the same way, but is definitely something that a location of 6,000 employees needs to address.

Kudos to your boss for offering a better location!
post #4 of 20
I've seem way too many naked folks sitting on benches in the locker room. Ick.
post #5 of 20
But think of how many moms were not comfortable with the locker room and instead suppliment or weaned when they otherwise would have pumped if they had a private place.

I would bring that thought up with HR. And look up any laws regarding pumping in your state. Not to mention things like better place to pump = more pumping moms = lower healthcare costs, less time off work to take care of a sick baby, etc.
post #6 of 20
What state are you in? Have you looked into the law in your state? They may be required to provide you with a private location that is not a bathroom to nurse. Good luck . . . I would be very disappointed with the locker room arrangement.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by smeep View Post
But think of how many moms were not comfortable with the locker room and instead suppliment or weaned when they otherwise would have pumped if they had a private place.

I would bring that thought up with HR. And look up any laws regarding pumping in your state. Not to mention things like better place to pump = more pumping moms = lower healthcare costs, less time off work to take care of a sick baby, etc.
I've mentioned all that to the HR manager that I've been in contact with. She keeps saying that I'm the only one who's ever asked about this in the 5 or so years she's been there. I'm hoping she passed on that info to her boss but it really doesn't sound like it. I'm hoping to get a few minutes with the VP so that I can tell him all that. I also have an info packet for employers from the US Department of Health and Human services that I hope to pass onto the VP. When the manager called me with an update she couldn't (or wouldn't) tell me what specifically she'd done with this in the 3 months since I originally called her except that she told the VP about the situation and his response was "we'll try but no promises." Not very encouraging. My DH pointed out that she's probably being very careful and politically correct because this could be a sticky situation and PR nightmare if handled badly. The parent company is the largest employer and taxpayer in Nevada. I found the state laws and there's nothing there that can help me. I don't remember the specifics though or where I found the info. I'll have to double check on that though just in case I missed something.

I didn't think that a locker room was acceptable but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being too picky. I can see why some women would wean instead of pumping there. My doula mentioned that women are probably pumping in their cars. I guess it's fairly common here which sounds horrible considering the 120 degree heat in the summer.
post #8 of 20
What is your personal workspace like? Do you have your own office? Cubical? Or are you in a room with several people?
post #9 of 20
Try contacting your local health department. Even if there aren't laws in place in your state, the state may still care and have some suggestions/influence.

For example, Illinois has a State Breastfeeding Task Force that has some materials and contact people (state employees) to help businesses be more supportive of breastfeeding employees. 'Course, we do have laws, but we like to see employers going 'above and beyond' so to speak.

Maybe you can get some support there?

Is your company all within Nevada? Or are there other states they operate in, and you could pull the laws/policies/practices from those locations?
post #10 of 20
OP, Nevada is the site of the parent company but what state is your workplace in? The employer is bound by the law of the state the work site is in, not the parent company.

Is the HHS document you are waiting for The Business Case for Breastfeeding?

Also, perhaps http://mothering.com/articles/new_ba...ng-9-to-5.html might be of help.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by Proud2BeAnAmerican View Post
I've seem way too many naked folks sitting on benches in the locker room. Ick.

This was my first thought too! I wouldn't want a breastpump, or my lunch, in contact with anything in a locker room. It isn't any cleaner than a bathroom. And a busy locker room, with you having to sit on the floor, trying to eat lunch - not an acceptable pumping arrangement! I personally had no problems with NIP but I wouldn't want to pump in public - its just so mechanical and makes your nips HUGE.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by KirstenMary View Post
What is your personal workspace like? Do you have your own office? Cubical? Or are you in a room with several people?
We have three rooms/workspaces that four of us share. Each room has a different use and we're all in and out of them all day. We have an office/equipment room with a lockable door and a TV and internet access. This would be my first choice but quite a few people outside of our department have keys to the room and my boss is worried about someone walking in on me. I don't mind letting people know the room is off limits when I pump but my boss seemed a bit uneasy about it. We have another equipment room with a lockable door but it's really small and only has room for a chair and maybe a tiny table. My boss' first choice was a small area off of our main storage area (that also is his office). There's no wall in between his office and the area but he offered to hang a drape. That just seemed so weird and not private enough not to mention he'd be able to hear the pump and he loves to talk so he'd be chatting the whole time. Now that I'm typing this it seems kind of creepy. But he understood when I vetoed that idea. My doula (also a LC) said she could get me on a schedule so that I could pump during my two big breaks so chances are the rest of my department would be out of the way during that time and not in need of any of the rooms.

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Originally Posted by mamajake
OP, Nevada is the site of the parent company but what state is your workplace in? The employer is bound by the law of the state the work site is in, not the parent company.

Is the HHS document you are waiting for The Business Case for Breastfeeding?
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I'm in Nevada too. I actually work in a resort on the Vegas Strip. I know they have other locations in the US and other countries. And yes, the HHS document I have is the The Business Case for Breastfeeding. I just received it so I haven't had much time to look it over yet. I figured that would be more presentable and have more influence because it's from a government agency.

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Originally Posted by SallyN
Try contacting your local health department. Even if there aren't laws in place in your state, the state may still care and have some suggestions/influence.
Thanks for the tip. I'll check that out.

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Originally Posted by annekevdbroek
I personally had no problems with NIP but I wouldn't want to pump in public - its just so mechanical and makes your nips HUGE.
I just recently saw someone pump for the first time. I happened to be at a friend's house when she needed to pump. I think it really hit me at that point what pumping in front of strangers would be like. Not something I'd be comfortable with at all! Plus, I'm a 34H right now so I'm huge already!
post #13 of 20
I think a locker room is acceptible if you choose it, but not acceptible if it's a forced choice, IFKWIM? I think it could be made to work, especially if you aren't very shy, the locker room isn't used much, and you get a folding tv table or something for your food/book.
I just don't think HR understands pumping, both "pumping is good for mothers and babies and toddlers" but what's involved. Is there something on youtube? It would be cool to see, in a video format, the set up, at least 10 minutes to pump, then the wash and put away. It might be illuminating to people about why you can check your email (if you choose) but not make phone calls, for example.
post #14 of 20
If your going to be pumping/eating and your well endowed i would totally suggest you buy a pumping hands free bra. It would sooo be worth the money!
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Morgana View Post
We have another equipment room with a lockable door but it's really small and only has room for a chair and maybe a tiny table.
I would do this, as long as at was big enough for you to sit comfortably and pump, it could be ok.
post #16 of 20
Would your boss be ok with you hanging a generic sign on the shared room's door? Something like "This room is in use for 15 minutes, please stop back later". No one would know what you were doing, and even if they had a key, hopefully they would come back later.
post #17 of 20
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Would your boss be ok with you hanging a generic sign on the shared room's door? Something like "This room is in use for 15 minutes, please stop back later". No one would know what you were doing, and even if they had a key, hopefully they would come back later.
That's what I'm doing. I pump in a room that's not currently in regular use at my workplace, but sometimes reporters use it for interviews or whatever. I just close the door and put up a sign that says, "Room in use -- do not enter."
post #18 of 20
I've pumped my milk in a women's locker room. I didn't have much time between classes to eat my lunch and pump my milk at my usual spot (in a counsellor's office), so I went to the locker room before my physical education class. One of my female classmates walked in while I was sitting on the bench pumping my milk. I thought it was kind of funny, she may have been embarrassed to walk in at such a time.

It is not somewhere that I would want to regularly have to pump milk. It was a one time thing for me.
post #19 of 20
My workplace (a hospital) also suggested that I could pump in the locker room. Not only is it dirty, but there is a serious lack of privacy there. I said no and my boss found me someplace else (the on-call doctor sleep rooms). I'm still pushing for my workplace to install an actual lactation room. They have had it "approved" now for like 2 years, but we still don't have one. I am really hoping they have it in place in time for my next baby though.

One ally that I found was my congressman. I contacted his office regarding my problem and his office contacted my employer. This is what got the lactation room to actually be "approved" in the first place, though it hasn't helped it become a reality yet.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lil'M View Post
I would do this, as long as at was big enough for you to sit comfortably and pump, it could be ok.
I would attempt to pump with a manual pump (based in part by the fact that I personally had such good luck with the Avent Isis) in a private place. Or maybe an extension cord can be use to supply you with power. The locker room sounds super gross personally.
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