Formaldehyde and Vaccines...

[Mama2Rio]

so i was trying to find a trigger in LO's eczema, when a came accross a statment in a natural healing book about formaldehyde exposure and eczema... then i started looking around on the net about this.. so now i know i'm not crazy, i really think it's vax related...

and this web site is scary!...

http://www.ehso.com/chem_formaldehyde.htm

"Formaldehyde is classified as a human carcinogen and has been linked to nasal and lung cancer, and with possible links to brain cancer and leukemia. Short-term exposure to formaldehyde can be fatal. Long-term exposure to low levels of formaldehyde may cause respiratory difficulty, eczema, and sensitization. The following references aid in recognizing formaldehyde hazards in the workplace."


so we know formaldeyde causes all kinds of problems, why do they want us to inject our children with it!?

why hasn't any stundy been done on the effects of formaldehyde in vax?

grrr!

[NamastePlatypus]

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[2cutiekitties]

Formaldehyde is in everything. They certainly dont care about our furniture, beds, things that off gas for years, etc. Vaxes are the last thing I see them caring about concerning formaldehyde.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by 2cutiekitties

Formaldehyde is in everything. They certainly dont care about our furniture, beds, things that off gas for years, etc. Vaxes are the last thing I see them caring about concerning formaldehyde.

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[meadowgirl]

My son hasn't been vaxed and he's got terrible eczema. I just don't know why. (Maybe it's the carpeting the house we purchased before I became pregnant with him???)

My latest theory is that it's a lymph issue. He's had a swollen lymph node on the back of his head since he was born. (he's two now.) It's never gone down.

I've done some research on lymph drainage. It's not easy, but supposedly jumping on a trampoline can help. I'm actually considering buying one.

[MyBoysBlue]

We cut pretty much all soy out of our diet recently and after 6 years of eczema on DS 1 his skin is almost completely smooth again. My conclusion is that his eczema was a soy allergy. Yes he was vaxed until 2.

[JadasMommy<3]

Originally Posted by Mama2Rio

so we know formaldeyde causes all kinds of problems, why do they want us to inject our children with it!? !

haha, well, it only causes problems in animals in higher doses and there's hardly any formaldehyde in vaccines. i guess you have to consider the dose of something before you claim it's harmful.

[eireann]

Originally Posted by JadasMommy<3

haha, well, it only causes problems in animals in higher doses and there's hardly any formaldehyde in vaccines. i guess you have to consider the dose of something before you claim it's harmful.

do you? or can you judge a substance on it's own chemical make up and realize, yeah, that's not good to be ingesting or injecting. it also depends on your definition of harmful. is "harmful" defined as something you see the immediate effects of, or is it possible that its something that can be a bit more insidious, more malignant but less obvious. a known neurotoxin, whether i can see effects from it or not, is still a neurotoxin.

to me, the composition of formaldehyde doesn't belong in the human body because it is harmful, whether it be in the long or short run, no matter the dose.

[JadasMommy<3]

Originally Posted by eireann

do you? or can you judge a substance on it's own chemical make up and realize, yeah, that's not good to be ingesting or injecting. it also depends on your definition of harmful. is "harmful" defined as something you see the immediate effects of, or is it possible that its something that can be a bit more insidious, more malignant but less obvious. a known neurotoxin, whether i can see effects from it or not, is still a neurotoxin.

to me, the composition of formaldehyde doesn't belong in the human body because it is harmful, whether it be in the long or short run, no matter the dose.

i definitely judge it based on what the evidence shows and not based on my little guesses about what does or doesn't belong in the body. the amount of formaldehyde in vaccines is very tiny. it takes heaps of formaldehyde to cause harm in animals. you can choose to be scared of it, that is your choice. i choose to let the science and reason guide my decisions since if you can't trust science and reason, what can you trust? i certainly don't trust the little thing called intuition or feelings. i never was a very good psychic.

[eireann]

Originally Posted by JadasMommy<3

i definitely judge it based on what the evidence shows and not based on my little guesses about what does or doesn't belong in the body. the amount of formaldehyde in vaccines is very tiny. it takes heaps of formaldehyde to cause harm in animals. you can choose to be scared of it, that is your choice. i choose to let the science and reason guide my decisions since if you can't trust science and reason, what can you trust? i certainly don't trust the little thing called intuition or feelings. i never was a very good psychic.

Wow. Somebody drank the Kool Aid. Whose science are you trusting?

I don't fear formaldehyde. I'm just know through research that it isn't harmless. I am also a person of science who chooses to know what they are speaking about. But don't listen to me...From our good friends at the CDC:

"30 mL (1 oz.) of a solution containing 37% formaldehyde has been reported to cause death in an adult. Ingestion may cause corrosive injury to the gastrointestinal mucosa, with nausea, vomiting, pain, bleeding, and perforation. Corrosive injuries are usually most pronounced in the pharyngeal mucosa, epiglottis and esophagus.Systemic effects include metabolic acidosis, CNS depression and coma, respiratory distress, and renal failure."

Harmless.

Now, given the fact that every or nearly every vaccine contains either formaldehyde directly or formalin, and a child is typically administered an average of 6 shots containing said ingredient, and then receives exposure through environment and habitat, all of this adds up to a bit of formaldehyde.

Edit: On a side note, you don't trust a "little thing" called intuition or feelings? Do you work off a how-to manual or something?

[JadasMommy<3]

Originally Posted by eireann

Wow. Somebody drank the Kool Aid. Whose science are you trusting?

I don't fear formaldehyde. I'm just know through research that it isn't harmless. I am also a person of science who chooses to know what they are speaking about. But don't listen to me...From our good friends at the CDC:

"30 mL (1 oz.) of a solution containing 37% formaldehyde has been reported to cause death in an adult. Ingestion may cause corrosive injury to the gastrointestinal mucosa, with nausea, vomiting, pain, bleeding, and perforation. Corrosive injuries are usually most pronounced in the pharyngeal mucosa, epiglottis and esophagus.Systemic effects include metabolic acidosis, CNS depression and coma, respiratory distress, and renal failure."

Harmless.

Now, given the fact that every or nearly every vaccine contains either formaldehyde directly or formalin, and a child is typically administered an average of 6 shots containing said ingredient, and then receives exposure through environment and habitat, all of this adds up to a bit of formaldehyde.

Edit: On a side note, you don't trust a "little thing" called intuition or feelings? Do you work off a how-to manual or something?

how much formaldehyde do you think is in a single shot and what evidence is there that this amount is harmful?

[mountainsun]

Originally Posted by JadasMommy<3

how much formaldehyde do you think is in a single shot and what evidence is there that this amount is harmful?

Show me the evidence that it is not harmful

i certainly don't trust the little thing called intuition or feelings. i never was a very good psychic.

Are you serious? Do you have LOs (my guess is no)? You trst pharmaceutical companie$ over your intuition/feelings? Do you have a good relationship with yourself?

[Ophelia]

Originally Posted by meadowgirl

My son hasn't been vaxed and he's got terrible eczema. I just don't know why. (Maybe it's the carpeting the house we purchased before I became pregnant with him???)

A little OT here, but eczema has been found to many times be a symptom of a food allergy or sensitivity. For my son, it was wheat/gluten. For others it can be dairy, soy or other allergens (or yes, an environmental issue).

[eireann]

Originally Posted by JadasMommy<3

how much formaldehyde do you think is in a single shot and what evidence is there that this amount is harmful?

What about the last thing I posted from the CDC about formaldehyde was confusing? Given their list of possible side effects and ailments including death, is that something you want to inject into your child, at ANY dose??

By the way, perhaps one shot has .1mg (such as DTaP's Daptacel, Infanrix, Tripedia, and Pediarix) and another has .2 and another has .5, and yet another has .5 mg...at what point does that add up to you? Aside from the formaldehyde, what about aluminum, a known neurotoxin? You might want to be a little more familiar with the actual contents of a shot. It's not a weakened strain and a dab of your harmless formaldehyde...

Since you mention the "amount" that could be harmful, do you think one size fits all? I can eat a peanut butter sandwich and not think one bit about it, but if a friend get so much as the dust of peanuts, it's anaphylactic shock. So let's talk about an amount being harmful...

I mean, honestly...I smell a troll.

[kiara7]

Originally Posted by eireann

You might want to be a little more familiar with the actual contents of a shot. It's not a weakened strain and a dab of your harmless formaldehyde...

Since you mention the "amount" that could be harmful, do you think one size fits all? I can eat a peanut butter sandwich and not think one bit about it, but if a friend get so much as the dust of peanuts, it's anaphylactic shock. So let's talk about an amount being harmful...

I mean, honestly...I smell a troll.

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Agreed. Someone else was on here not too long ago trying to tell us that mercury toxicity is dose-specific too and that it actually can be beneficial in certain amounts. When I asked what that amount was and what are the benefits, the person magically disappeared...

I'm getting tired of this...

[roxyrox]

The type of formaldehyde in vaccines is the same as the type naturally produced by the human body. I think there are some worrisome ingredients in vaccines, but formaldehyde is not one of them.

[LindsayK]

RoxyRox -

Do you have a link about the type of formaldehyde in vaccines being the same type as produced in our bodies? I have heard this before, but don't really understand the science behind it.

Thx!

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by LindsayK

RoxyRox -

Do you have a link about the type of formaldehyde in vaccines being the same type as produced in our bodies? I have heard this before, but don't really understand the science behind it.

Thx!

This might help. It may be similar but the fact is it is still synthetic vs naturally occurring.

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/...ions/#more-110

[mamakay]

Originally Posted by roxyrox

The type of formaldehyde in vaccines is the same as the type naturally produced by the human body. I think there are some worrisome ingredients in vaccines, but formaldehyde is not one of them.

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[eireann]

Originally Posted by Marnica

the fact is it is still synthetic vs naturally occurring.