detox pathway guinea pig - Page 6

[Punchy Kaby]

WhoMe-All right!!! Love when something goes right:

[chlobo]

whome,

That's wonderful news. I'm so glad it's working. I just need to get on the learning curve here.

[Theloose]

my UVB lamp just shipped

and dd is playing by herself while I sit on the computer. And it's not like she doesn't notice me, she keeps bringing me wooden food. and not.one.mention of watching videos

my elbow itches...

[Theloose]

Dd's methyl group high wore off about 11am... all videos, all the time, no nap, wanted to play instead of eating lunch... not fun.

So I went and ate lentils for lunch, then laid on the bed and dozed while she played in the bedroom and didn't nap. Now we're in another 'forced' nap, and I have high hopes that she'll wake up happy again (as the folate in the lentils works its way through my milk into her brain).

My leading theory is that dd has high dopamine, and that's why she tends to freak out over the merest suggestion that something might not go her way (paranoid delusions?). And that's why the folate is making such a big difference.

[newcastlemama]

I wanted to add here about the whole leaky liver/leaky gut thing. I am transitioning into GAPS (I have done TF for almost 3 years and have dairy, gluten,egg and tomato allergies) and I did try the intro-type diet a few months ago for a few days just to see. Well I added too much saurkraut (or something) because that was the first time I ever felt the presence of my liver and gallbladder. Now I am fine transitioning slowly into the diet and taking the enzymes that help stomach acid. I am also going to be drinking dandelion root tea, dandelion greens ect.

Anyway, I have had first hand experince with the leaky liver thing. It really scared me when it happened but now I understand why after reading this thread. I do think I need GAPS though because I do have a problem with starches (grains especially)..I have learned that I will just have to support the liver detox as well along the way.

Great thread!
Jen

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

I can personally testify that lemon juice (specifically the juice of one lemon in some water first thing in the morning, before breakfast) does indeed do great things to detox your liver. Did nice things for my mood and energy--but, whoops, not so good for my son (he was nursing back then). Because we were already taking our supps, and I was monitoring his vitamin C need (a good measure of circulating toxins) I realized within a week or so that his vitamin C need jumped by 10 or 15 grams per day when I did the lemon-juice-first-thing-in-the-morning thing. I may be more toxic than most, but it's something to consider.

How do you know that the need jumps? Is there some other clue than bowel tolerance? Cause daily tests of bowel tolerance don't exactly sound fun...

[tanyalynn]

He didn't have any odd behaviors start, it really needed me making the connections--I'm nursing -> I'm feeling quite a bit better, and quickly -> uh, could I be causing a problem -> increase his vitC (he'd been steady at 3 grams per day for a few months at that point) and increase and increase, and whoops, he's up to 12 or 15 grams, around there. This whole process of me starting the lemon juice, then stopping, then tapering his vitC up to see how high it was now took maybe 3 weeks. But the insidious thing is, I _didn't_ see behavior changes, so even a kid who's fairly marginal could still get an increase in ingested toxins without showing behavioral/mood type issues.

And honestly, the bowel tolerance part isn't really a problem. I've been dosing the kids 3x/day with vitamin C for more than a year and a half now, and between having a good idea of how much they need and how quickly to go up (just due to experience with them), I don't (usually) overshoot so much that they get really bad diarrhea. It's mostly that loose, more urgent poop that's within an hour or so of their vitC. Like all of us, I spend too much time thinking about my kids' poop.

[tanyalynn]

And I just decided, I've been inspired to try chocolate for my son again. It's not earth-shattering, I admit it's fairly minor in the grand scheme of things, but I've been thinking about coconut-maybe walnut-chocolate type balls for quite a while, and the kids haven't been thrilled with my flavoring choices so far--but it's portable, and tasty, and I've wondered if I've trended down their fat intake (and how much does it matter to them? I need more than my husband, but where do the kids fit?).

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

And I just decided, I've been inspired to try chocolate for my son again. It's not earth-shattering, I admit it's fairly minor in the grand scheme of things, but I've been thinking about coconut-maybe walnut-chocolate type balls for quite a while, and the kids haven't been thrilled with my flavoring choices so far--but it's portable, and tasty, and I've wondered if I've trended down their fat intake (and how much does it matter to them? I need more than my husband, but where do the kids fit?).

I know babies and toddlers need lots of saturated fat for myelination...

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by whoMe

I know babies and toddlers need lots of saturated fat for myelination...

Yeah, a few odd things happened when I re-vamped our diet, gfcf started at the same time as a lot higher fat intake, much of it saturated, and my kids growth slowed dramatically. At the same time too--my daughter was 3.5yo, my son 14mos. They had both been around 97% for height, and 60%-ish for weight, and over the course of the next year they trended down to 60-75%-ish for height and weight both (much more matched). Since I think the dietary changes were positive, I think a lot was going on in their bodies, it was sorta odd. They've both gained a few pounds in the last few months and I think they're taller, and part of me thinks it may just be catching up for the lack of growth in that interim time period (my husband's family is quite tall, heck I was tall in childhood too), and part of me wonders if our diet has shifted to something that's somehow stressful for them (I'd read somewhere on the WAP site about high protein, relatively low fat diets distorting growth to the too-tall side). It's hard to problem-solve real-time.

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

And I just decided, I've been inspired to try chocolate for my son again. It's not earth-shattering, I admit it's fairly minor in the grand scheme of things,

There you go again, dissing my favorite food group.


Pat

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by WuWei

There you go again, dissing my favorite food group.


Pat

Aren't chocolate cravings just a sign of magnesium deficiency? How's your transsulfuration going?

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Aren't chocolate cravings just a sign of magnesium deficiency? How's your transsulfuration going?

I read today, NOT to add Epsom salts to anything with calcium, and not to ingest Epsom salts alongside a calcium food/supplement, as it will create insoluble precipitates. I believe that means kidney stones, maybe. So, I'm just adding my pinch of Epsom salts to water. And haven't had as much today, interestingly.

Probably too many Brazil nuts over here and I am losing focus. But, what am I supposed to do for my transfulfuration pathway, again?


Pat

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by WuWei

Probably too many Brazil nuts over here and I am losing focus. But, what am I supposed to do for my transfulfuration pathway, again?

Magnesium and B6. And adequate methionine.

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by WuWei

There you go again, dissing my favorite food group.


Pat

Sorry, it's just that I can't exactly have a pity party over chocolate (especially when I started eating it again when I weaned my son--though duh, it took me a while to realize hey, he only got the rash when _he_ ate it) when some folks have a list of foods they _can_ eat rather than a list they _can't_ eat. I mean--not being able to make snacks or treats with chocolate for the kids isn't on the same scale as, ya know, a corn allergy or potential anaphalactic reactions or stuff like that.

[kortner]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

And I just decided, I've been inspired to try chocolate for my son again. It's not earth-shattering, I admit it's fairly minor in the grand scheme of things, but I've been thinking about coconut-maybe walnut-chocolate type balls for quite a while, and the kids haven't been thrilled with my flavoring choices so far--but it's portable, and tasty, and I've wondered if I've trended down their fat intake (and how much does it matter to them? I need more than my husband, but where do the kids fit?).

I'm about to try this recipe:

http://fourfoldhealing.com/2006/07/0...-energy-balls/

Thought you might enjoy! (If you haven't seen it before).

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Magnesium and B6. And adequate methionine.

I need more methionine! http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/t...4160Comment491

Pat

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

isn't on the same scale as, ya know, a corn allergy or potential anaphalactic reactions or stuff like that.

I agree.


Pat

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by WuWei

I need more methionine! http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/t...4160Comment491

Pat

I think methionine is supposed to be a pretty common amino acid. So if you're getting enough protein, chances are you're getting enough methionine.

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by kortner

I'm about to try this recipe:

http://fourfoldhealing.com/2006/07/0...-energy-balls/

Thought you might enjoy! (If you haven't seen it before).

That looks tasty, and no, I haven't seen it before. Maybe it's spring, or maybe it's this forum, but I am finally, after a long, boring winter of rather boring foods (and not a lot of motivation to change), I am feeling inspired to try all sorts of new stuff!