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post #21 of 64
: you have a healthy and uneventful pregnancy
post #22 of 64
: : good vibes coming you and you babe's way!!
post #23 of 64
Celia - thanks for updating us. I really hope you are able to go to full term, deliver naturally, and have a healthy babe. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
post #24 of 64
<3
post #25 of 64
Thanks for the update. I'm so glad for the good report, and I'm so happy for your doctor's optimism. That's such great news!! Hoping you have a healthy, happy, very LOOOOONG pregnancy.
post #26 of 64
I'm glad you got some clarification. I hope everything goes well and the baby's blood is compatible with yours and there is no attacking. Please keep us updated! Thinking of you and hoping everything goes just perfect for you.
post #27 of 64
Here's to little e's for your little one. All the best to you both!!!!!!!
post #28 of 64
Hoping you have a healthy and uneventful pregnancy.
post #29 of 64
Crashing your ddc to let you know that the exact same thing happened to me with my first pregnancy (I had had two blood transfusions prior), and everything turned out perfectly fine with my twins. I think I only had to have one or two extra blood draws, and when they saw that my antibody levels weren't increasing, they (the doctors) knew everything would be OK. It was not presented to me as something to be particularly worried about.

I hope you aren't worrying either!



Lex
post #30 of 64
Thread Starter 
Thanks Lexpeach. It's really great to hear from someone who has experienced this. I am not worrying at all because I know at this point there is no need to worry and the chances that anything will amount are slim. I am being watched closely. Tomorrow I have my 16 weeks appt. they will do another blood draw.


Thanks to everyone for your wonderful well wishes and prayers. I will definately keep this post updated is anything arises.

Celia
post #31 of 64
((hugs)) hang in there.

I'm glad it has been presented in a less threatening way, but sorry you're having to face all this.

Thinking good little 'e' thoughts for you...
post #32 of 64
i'm not due til the beginning of sept, but was referred to your thread, as i am being referred to a perinatologist by my midwife for the same antibody e thing. i'm glad to read your update, as it puts my mind at rest as well. will pray for you n your lil one, and i would love it is you could do the same for me n my babe.
post #33 of 64
I'm curious to see how this will relate to my situation.
I am O+, Doctor said that its good as long as it "isn't negative".. Im confused by that a little...
My husband had his blood and urine tested, for "everything" once finding out I was pregnant.
But forgot to find out what blood TYPE he was. Without realizing that was an issue, I forgot too.
I am having him call his doctor right now for his blood type. If he has a negative blood type do I need to tell the doc?
post #34 of 64
Thread Starter 
Amberlynn - Blood type doesn't affect the outcome. I am B+ and DH is B+. The reason why this has happened and why it is now of concern is because DH's E Antigen is in him as a big E and a little e. It looks like this, Ee. The E Antigen in me is two little e's. It looks like this, ee. Little e's do not like big E's so the body sends out antibodies to protect a person against the big E's if they are present. One of our already born 2 children has a big E in their blood makeup. I was told that most likely during labor, a tiny bit of my baby's blood entered my blood stream. That is how the big E's became present in me.

I have no idea what your doctor meant by making the comment about having a negative blood type.


Mom2tig - I will most definately keep you and your babe in my prayers. Did your DH have his blood tested to determine his E antigen status? Did your midwife risk you out of her care? Or are you just being reffered to get further information? I'm interested to see what he/she has to say. All of the medical info. can be quite daunting so I hope that I have been explaining everything correctly.
post #35 of 64
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Originally Posted by adoremybabe View Post
Mom2tig - I will most definately keep you and your babe in my prayers. Did your DH have his blood tested to determine his E antigen status? Did your midwife risk you out of her care? Or are you just being reffered to get further information? I'm interested to see what he/she has to say. All of the medical info. can be quite daunting so I hope that I have been explaining everything correctly.
this is my third pre. neither tig nor roo's pregnanies showed the antibody, and those were both with an ob. currently i hjaven't been trisked out, and am hoping n praying that i just get dual care instead of being kicked outta the birthing center. i've already had 2 hospital births, and i really want a birth center labor/delivery. i also filled out info for bothe of my other ob offices so the mw can look and see is there was anything unusual there, since you don't just develop antibodies overnight. the mw didn't say anything about blood tests for hub, but since he is the father of both of my other kids, i'm guessing that it is a sfae assumption that he has a big E somewhere, right? or would one of the kids have gotten a big E? i am NOT good at science, lol. maybe the maternal/fetal medicine specialist will have more to say though. i'm really hoping for just an occasional extra blood test (i HATE needles!) and to find i'll still get the normal, natural birth i'm planning. thinking about the baby needing to be born early probably means a c/s though, huh?

the other thing i'd been reading about is amnio and possible blood transfusion to the baby while still in utero if too early for early birth.
post #36 of 64
my only guess for the doc saying as long as your blood type isn't negative had either to do with the fact that o neg is very rare, and if you needed blood you may hafta wait, OR that if you have a positive blood type, you don't hafta worry about being rh neg.
post #37 of 64
Thread Starter 
Mom2tig - I few more thoughts for you. I was told that it is possible that my first child has the Big E and that the antibodies were so few that they were never picked up in the blood tests with my second child. Hopefully, it will be reccommended that your DH get his blood tested to make sure that he has the big E. I was told that if my DH didn't have the big E then there weren't going to be any more worries about this pregnancy because it wasn't possible that any of our children would ever get the big E. It would have been assumed that it entered my body in some other mysterious form since I've never had a blood transfusion.

So, if I were you I'd request that DH has blood drawn. It will provide a lot of info.

As far as being risked out. My personal OB doctor is also my family doctor. He refered me to the OB/GYN so that I could get more precise information and my medical file will always be on her desk. She is overseeing everything but I will not be risked out of my own doc's care unless something goes wrong. So honestly, I don't see why you would be risked out by your midwife at this point because it is very easy to see if your titers are increasing and then she can make the decision.

As far as further testing. I am hoping that where you live, they have the ability to check the health of your baby with better technology than an amnio. In my case, if the titers get too high, then I will be sent to another city (Greenbay, Wisconsin) to have what will essentially be an ultrasound. They will be able to check the brain of my baby. They will be looking for something in the blood vessels. An Amnio is the old way to check the health of the baby. It obviously carries more risks. Even if I have to travel for hours, I'd find a doctor that has been trained in this area.

Did anyone tell you what your titers are? That's the number of antibodies in your blood. That is information that will help you so ask someone if you haven't been told. A month ago my titers were less than 1 which is very very low and, very safe. Right now I have the mind set that I am fully expecting a normal vaginal delivery. Like you the last thing that I want my body to go through is a C-section. In the back of my mind I know that it is possible but the risks with the E Antigen are very low. So I am walking around being positive asking people for prayers when I feel the need.


I am Catholic and one of our Saints is St. Bernard. During my prayers I ask him to also pray for me and my baby to Our Lord. St. Bernard is the Patron Saint of pregnancy women and unborn babies.

Try and stay positive. Ask many questions when you see the peri. Take a notebook and pen along incase you want to write something down.

Today I go in for my 16 week appt. and get my blood drawn again. I will probably find out by Friday if my titers have gone up.

Also, the OB/GYN that I saw, said that a partner of hers has a mother who is almost full term with this same issue. Her titers just started going up but she is so close to term that they have no reason what so ever to worry.
post #38 of 64
Wow - your situation is very similar to mine except that in my case, the baby isn't affected until AFTER birth - it is unknown why the baby is fine while in utero. My body was ultra-sensitive to my ds1 & ds2s A blood cells, and made anti-A that attacked ds2 after he was born. I'm not sure if it's similar to the Rh issue, but his bilirubin levels got up to 25 after 6 hours of being out of me. This had nothing to do with usual jaundice, this was serious and he could have gotten brain damage if it had gotten much higher. I was "lucky" that he was already in the NICU because he had aspirated meconium during labour and they gave him oxygen and an antibiotic to fight pneumonia, so they noticed that his vitals were weak and his colour was terrible. There's a 50-50 chance that this child has A type blood and we are *hoping* to get his blood typed before birth in order to prepare for a NICU visit or not. If he has dh's blood type, then treatment is mandatory, and a NICU stay will be required for at least 5-7 days If he has my blood type, he comes to my room with me Please keep us updated on your titers! Very neat that they can at least monitor you! I hope that your baby has the recessive e!
post #39 of 64
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Originally Posted by AmberLynn View Post
I'm curious to see how this will relate to my situation.
I am O+, Doctor said that its good as long as it "isn't negative".. Im confused by that a little...
My husband had his blood and urine tested, for "everything" once finding out I was pregnant.
But forgot to find out what blood TYPE he was. Without realizing that was an issue, I forgot too.
I am having him call his doctor right now for his blood type. If he has a negative blood type do I need to tell the doc?
I'm not a Dr. But from what I understand, you are O+, so you HAVE the Rh factor. If your dh is (-), then he lacks the factor. It's OK for you to have a baby without the factor, because your body sees a void rather than a foreign contaminant. There is no (-) Rh, it's really just not there. The original poster and I have uncommon cases where our bodies have over-reacted to things that other bodies wouldn't think as dangerous.

If a woman is Rh (-), then she lacks the factor and can make antibodies against her baby's Rh factor (if dad is Rh +). That's fairly common because everyone either has the factor or they don't, there are no shades of gray.
post #40 of 64
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Originally Posted by GenomicsGirl View Post
Wow - your situation is very similar to mine except that in my case, the baby isn't affected until AFTER birth - it is unknown why the baby is fine while in utero. My body was ultra-sensitive to my ds1 & ds2s A blood cells, and made anti-A that attacked ds2 after he was born. I'm not sure if it's similar to the Rh issue, but his bilirubin levels got up to 25 after 6 hours of being out of me.

How very interesting Genomics. I believe that RH (which is actually the D Antigen), E, and A are all related in that they are all normally occuring antigens in the blood. Perhaps RH and E are more similar because they can affect the baby in the same way, but E is more rare.

I was told that typing the baby's blood while in utero wasn't worth the extra risks because everything can be monitored nicely on the outside.

I with the best for you and your babe.
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