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Obama wants to spend 954 million on new vaccines!!  

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This is ridiculous. We already have too many vaccines as it is and there are so many other things that money could be used on! Just wanted to get everyones take on this..


Economic Vaccination Stimulation? Obama's Stimulus Bill Calls for $954,000,000 in New Spending on Vaccines


(NaturalNews) While the Obama administration is attempting to pass the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 in a hurry, NaturalNews readers have begun actually reading the bill, and they're finding some worrying language that should raise concern among people interested in preserving health freedom and protecting the health of all Americans.

Specifically, one section of the economic stimulus bill designates nearly a billion dollars for new vaccinations of children. This was discovered by Elisha Celeste, a NaturalNews reader. As stated in the bill:

$954,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out the immunization program authorized by section 317(a), (j), and (k)(1) of the Public Health Service Act ("section 317 immunization program")

The issue of whether vaccinations are actually helpful or harmful is hotly debated, of course. The pro-vaccine camp believes that the human immune system is a technological failure and that chemical intervention is the only way to protect children. The anti-vaccine camp believes that exposure to non-fatal infections actually strengthens the immune system, creating stronger protections against future infections. Thus, vaccines actually interfere with normal, healthy immune function while injecting children with dangerous chemicals and substances derived from sick, diseased animals.

NaturalNews is against childhood vaccines as explained in this article that completely debunks conventional beliefs about vaccinations: http://www.naturalnews.com/025596.html
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Can we develop one for stupidity?
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laughup
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Can we develop one for stupidity?
post #4 of 29
I already campaigned that one in the seatbelt thread LOL

I cant believe they would waste money like that at a time like this. (or any time for that matter)
post #5 of 29
We could use that money to help families who have been affected by vaccines. Ya know, like the ones who have a special needs child now and the ones who no longer a child.

This really bothers me. What vaccine will they come up with next? Is there anything else that even "needs" one?
post #6 of 29
I am not all the way through this yet but it seems to me that the 900+ is for an overall prevention program, which includes vaccines and a couple hundred million are for vaccine themselves but not necessarily the creation of new ones. still reading, will comment more later.
post #7 of 29
How exactly are they spending this money? To research or promote *new* vaccines, or to offer *vaccines already on the current schedule* for free to kids without insurance?

If it's the latter, I can't see a problem with it. I don't agree with vaccinating babies or the pressure tactics associated with the current vaccine system, but many people DO think of vaccines as an integral part of preventative health care. How could ANY Federal health program NOT include vaccine coverage right now? For better or for worse, it's where we are right now.
post #8 of 29
oops, it was brought to my attention that the numbers here and my own were from the bills from the houses before it was changed and so now I am attempting to track down the final bill text...which I can't seem to locate yet.

here we go:

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Within the total, the conference agreement includes $300,000,000 to be
transferred to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to carry out
the section 317 immunization program rather than $954,000,000 as proposed by
the House. The Senate did not propose funding for this activity.
http://www.house.gov/billtext/hr1_cr_jes.pdf
post #9 of 29
And I looked up what the section 317 immunization is and that is indeed a program to fund vaccines for uninsured kids and the like:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

so, IMO, the OP article needs some serious fact checking.
post #10 of 29
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
How exactly are they spending this money? To research or promote *new* vaccines, or to offer *vaccines already on the current schedule* for free to kids without insurance?

If it's the latter, I can't see a problem with it. I don't agree with vaccinating babies or the pressure tactics associated with the current vaccine system, but many people DO think of vaccines as an integral part of preventative health care. How could ANY Federal health program NOT include vaccine coverage right now? For better or for worse, it's where we are right now.
Looks like the latter:


http://www.nastad.org/Docs/Public/Re...%20Funding.pdf


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42 U.S.C. 247b, (Sec. 317, Public Health Service Act as amended.)
Description
Funding is needed to expand grants to state and local health departments for vaccine pur-chase and operations to serve additional underserved children, adolescents and adults.
post #11 of 29
Hmm...

http://www.cdc.gov/NCIRD/progbriefs/.../grant-317.pdf

(no copyright...cdc link)

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The Section 317 Operations program remains the primary source of funding for most jurisdictional vaccine program operations. Section 317 operations funding supports activities that (1) direct public vaccine provision, (2) oversee provider quality by conducting assessments, training programs, and compliance monitoring, (3) develop immunization registries, (4) support school-based and community-based vaccine service delivery programs, (5) create and deliver consumer information ,(6) conduct vaccine-preventable disease surveillance, and (7) conduct population needs assessments. Funds also support the perinatal hepatitis B prevention program.
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that sounds in line with what the program goals are. In order to grant states the right amounts and get vaccines to those they feel are 'at risk' and unable to afford them, you would have to monitor compliance. they probably also see 'vaccine clinics' as easy ways to deliver the vaccines to children (which is why you get them at schools)--not saying I agree or disagree with that but I think that seems to be their take on the issue.
post #14 of 29
hmmm... I didnt realize it was such an issue. they aren't spending money to do that already? where I live you can get vaccines free at the health department, no matter what your income is.
post #15 of 29
Hmm..$300,000 is significantly less than normally granted to the CDC for section 317. They're passing legislation to force insurance companies to cover all ACIP recommended vaxes, and Obama has plans to have all US kids insured, so I wonder if that's why?

Also, does anyone know why Obama's election made Julie Gerberding resign?
post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by caro113 View Post
We could use that money to help families who have been affected by vaccines. Ya know, like the ones who have a special needs child now and the ones who no longer a child.
Duh, didn't you know that vaccines do not harm children, the studies prove it and the gov't says so *sorry I just couldn't resist*

Sounds to me like it is probably going to be used for more programs to get people to comply with the schedule already and make more scary commercials and signs how your child is going to die from chicken pox or something....
post #17 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the updates.. Glad to hear its less than was originally proposed.. I really hope they wont come out with new vaccines though!
post #18 of 29
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Thanks for the updates.. Glad to hear its less than was originally proposed.. I really hope they wont come out with new vaccines though!
They're always going to have new vaccines coming out and being added to the schedule. The NIH has a vaccine "wish list" about a mile long and millions of taxpayer dollers are given to universities and pharma companies every year from the NIH to develop the vaxes on their wishlist.
post #19 of 29
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Originally Posted by caro113 View Post
We could use that money to help families who have been affected by vaccines. Ya know, like the ones who have a special needs child now and the ones who no longer a child.

This really bothers me. What vaccine will they come up with next? Is there anything else that even "needs" one?
ITA!!!!

The vaxes that *I* believe they are working fast on, is one to wipe out the hundred(or so) strains of Rhino-virus(sp?) and ultimately....one global one for AIDS.

More reason to want to just.....:Puke
post #20 of 29
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This is how I feel too!....:Puke:Puke:Puke:Puke



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Originally Posted by blessed mommy View Post
ITA!!!!

The vaxes that *I* believe they are working fast on, is one to wipe out the hundred(or so) strains of Rhino-virus(sp?) and ultimately....one global one for AIDS.

More reason to want to just.....:Puke
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