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post #41 of 77
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Originally Posted by tbone_kneegrabber http://www.mothering.com/discussions...s/viewpost.gif
You don't bleed once you are in the water. I thought that was a common knowledge thing? Its not like the menstrual blood continues to flow out of you like that, it has to do with buoyancy etc. Also, if I scrap my knee on the concrete around the pool I probably bleed into etc. That's why they use chlorine. I am not saying public pools are nasty, but not only because of menstruation. Also if you wear a tampon sometimes it leaks etc.


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Originally Posted by tinuviel_k View Post
I really don't think this is true. I've taken a bath on my period and it certainly did get it the water.

Yeah, I'm calling bull on this....
post #42 of 77
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Originally Posted by tbone_kneegrabber View Post
You don't bleed once you are in the water. I thought that was a common knowledge thing? Its not like the menstrual blood continues to flow out of you like that, it has to do with buoyancy etc. Also, if I scrap my knee on the concrete around the pool I probably bleed into etc. That's why they use chlorine. I am not saying public pools are nasty, but not only because of menstruation. Also if you wear a tampon sometimes it leaks etc.

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0629.html
ITA. I don't know about the reason, but anecdotally...everyone I've talked to about this issue has noticed a slow/stopped flow in water (not saying this will be true for everyone, just that it must be fairly common). I do notice that it starts again almost immediately upon getting out of the water. And the PP did say specifically that she used something on heavy-flow days.

Sorry to extend this tangential conversation! Back to the original issue - I second the seamless thong w/slim pad idea, although when I was that age I always had very heavy periods and the slim wouldn't have been enough.
post #43 of 77
Sorry - can't resist.....

I bleed in the bath but not in a pool. Perhaps it is the water temperature?
post #44 of 77
Granted this was 14 years ago, but my daughter was allowed to wear underwear to class but not at a performance. I think the idea was the ballet corps are to appear as one (a body, corps, get it? LOL) and look just alike.

Also, as an adult, I wouldn't get into a pool without a tampon but didn't that poster say she did that when she was a teen? I know it sounds gross to us now but didn't we all do things like that as a teen?
post #45 of 77
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
IMO, by the time a girl is old enough to menstruate, she's old enough to wear tampons. I personally started using tampons during my second period.

For a girl uncomfortable wearing tampons, I can see three options: wear a tampon JUST for dance class (and change back into a pad ASAP), wear a thin pad under her leotard, or drop out of dance.

It sounds to me like the "no underwear allowed" rule is only for older, more serious students. Some girls simply won't want to continue at that point- I myself lost interest in ballet when it became more serious and "less fun." By the time a girl is in a more serious class, as well as old enough to menstruate, she's old enough to make decisions about her time and her body. She may decide that ballet is rewarding and she wants to continue in spite of her discomfort about tampons. Or maybe she'll decide that tampons just squick her out too much and ballet is no longer worth it. Or, maybe your DD will have no problems with tampons and this won't be a concern at all.
Really, you believe this?? Some kids get their periods at 8 years old, they should have to deal with tampons?? I got my period at 11, I was a very young 11, still very much a child and very much a tomboy. I didn't even tell my mother for at least the 1st cycle or two. She only had tampons in the house, so I used wadded up toilet paper as a pad and hoped for the best. I can count on one hand the number of times I have used tampons. They are yuck and I hate them. So uncomfortable to have something inside my body. IF I was into dance, having to wear a tampon would have made me quit, most definitely.
post #46 of 77
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
IMO, by the time a girl is old enough to menstruate, she's old enough to wear tampons. .
I agree with this from a "the choice should be offered to her" standpoint.

But I strongly disagree from a "she should be ready to use them" standpoint. Some menstruating individuals are too young to use tampons, meaning that they--personally--are not ready.
post #47 of 77
I dealt with this as a kid; by the time I had my period I was dancing pretty seriously five days a week. I remember the first time I had my period was during a performance week, and I wore my regular undies the first night, to hold the pad, and kept getting comments from other people about it, and my mom noticed. The next day she went out and bought me a really high-cut thong, something WAY too sexy for a 12 year old but it did the job nicely-- held the pad while being completely invisible under my costume. Combine that with a thin pad with no wings, and it worked just fine. But I felt miserably self-conscious still, like everybody could see the bulge, and the pad made it harder to move naturally. My mother kind of casually mentioned tampons, and left a box with instructions for me to fiddle with, and that's what I wound up using.

"No undies" rules are common in the dance world-- in some competitions, for example, even for very young girls, visible panty line makes you lose points. Gymnasts and swimmers also have this problem. The ballet world is known already for plenty of other anti-feminist offenses. The more serious ballet schools have gotten plenty of publicity for basically forcing growing girls onto restrictive diets to control their weight, even when the girls were already crazy-skinny.

For the OP-- what about a high-cut thong? That was a good solution for me, until I was a bit more mature and ready to try internal protection. But I also agree that if a girl is interested, and WANTS to try tampons, there's no reason she can't try tampons. Any girl old enough to menstruate is old enough to try one. A cup is also an option, or sponges.
post #48 of 77
The water breaking in a pool wouldn't bother me unless there was meconium. The stuff is sterile otherwise.

Blood flow doesn't magically stop in water, cold, hot or warm. Ever cut yourself and put it in a bowl of water? Doesn't work. Maybe I bleed freakishly heavy (ok I know I do), but there is NO WAY just being in water would stop the flow. And getting to and out of the pool? Blood bath all over the floors.
post #49 of 77
OK, I've gotta defend myself a little. I was 12. (and I did not bleed heavily back then, probably why tampons were so uncomfortable)

But really, the shear amount of snot and pee (from kids, hopefully not other swim team members) was a little more gross. But that's what the ridiculous amount of chlorine is for, right?
post #50 of 77
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Originally Posted by lab View Post
So you were bleeding into the pool? GAH!
No, I did this too. The water pressure of the pool keeps you from bleeding.
post #51 of 77
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Originally Posted by tinuviel_k View Post
I really don't think this is true. I've taken a bath on my period and it certainly did get it the water.
Ok, 2 people have said this - there is a huge difference in pressure with just a bath tub and a huge pool, and it's ot to the op question. hope you got an answer that works!
post #52 of 77
I have to chime in on the pool thing... I swam competitively and quite a few girls didn't wear tampons during their periods. When you are swimming competitively, it is just not the same as floating around in the tub.... I don't know how to explain it, but there is not a trail of blood behind you. I promise.
post #53 of 77
I was involved in a serious ballet school when I was young. I got my period when I was 11. I was definitely not ready for tampons. I tried and tried. I remember that this was a very awful time for me. I was SO upset about getting my period and mostly because of ballet. None of my friends had their period yet. I think I was told I could wear the knit shorts if I wanted to but this was a mortifying idea for me because it was like wearing a sign that said "menstruating". At 11, and the only one in my class, I couldn't handle that. I think I got away with pantiliners on my tights for awhile because my period was so light the first year or so but oh dear, this was traumatic for me.

I have to say that this was sort of the death knell for my ballet career. I was already getting burnt. I quit not long after I got my period. I transfered my energy to Jazz and tap and haven't looked back.

Just wanted to say to those who think that being allowed to wear underwear during your period would help a young ballerina, I just can't see that that is true. You can so tell and it is such a no no in serious ballet schools. It would be like being on Top Chef and opening up a can of cream of mushroom soup.
post #54 of 77
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Originally Posted by Mama Dragon View Post
The water breaking in a pool wouldn't bother me unless there was meconium. The stuff is sterile otherwise.
ehhh..meconium isnt "dirty" either, theres not the bacteria and all in the babys gut still on the inside. it seems a lot more gross than it really is.

and im another who thinks it should be up to her but offered to use a sponge, cup or tampons..if shes not comfy with those, i cant see how dancing would be at all comfy with a pad in the way but i dont know what else to do!
post #55 of 77
I am really curious and have to ask. I took ballet as a child but as an adult no, if you aren't wearing undies... wouldn't your pubic hair show or at least puff up the leotard?
post #56 of 77
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Originally Posted by Jeanne D'Arc View Post
I am really curious and have to ask. I took ballet as a child but as an adult no, if you aren't wearing undies... wouldn't your pubic hair show or at least puff up the leotard?
No, the tights you wear under the leotard live up to their name and keep everything pretty contained. The leotard is just as form fitting. That's why most dancers find underwear or a pad so uncomfortable under tights, because things get shifted into impolite spaces and held there with no possibility of discreet extraction (besides it shows).
post #57 of 77
I took dance in my young teen years and I always wore a tampon when I had my period. There was no way I would have worn a pad to dance in. First the visibility would have made me too self concious. i always bought the thinnest pads I could find, but I still felt like they were visible under even my clothes. I would have been horrified at the idea that someone could see it through my leotard. Second it would have terribly uncomfortable, the shifting, the bunching, I have always found that pads chafe a bit and so only wear them on really heavy flow days. Also I think that unless you're wearing thick clothes you can kind of hear them when you walk. Also the shifting would put me at risk of leaking which would have been the most mortifying thing to me of all at that time. As long as tampons were an option, that was my choice. However if I absolutely had to use pads in a dance class I think I would have chosen to use that leotard someone else posted, the skintone one and then wear it under another leotard. But I would want someone to direct me to the world's thinnest pad.
post #58 of 77
i took ballet & gymnastics as a child, and got my pd at 8 or 9 years old. a tampon wasn't happening. (i didn't even know what they were until i was probably 11 or 12, and when my mom explained how they worked to me i was mortified/terrified by the thought! ) i don't remember ballet being a problem, but that was probably b/c we were allowed to wear skirts and/or b/c i quit by the time i was 9. gymnastics though? no tights there. and while there wasn't a no undies rule, i don't think most of the girls (myself included) wore any. there were those leotards with the built-in panty if you could find them, but those could still be somewhat uncomfortable. i remember being sad that we had to buy some black leotards for me to wear on pd days in place of my other colorful ones, then being extremely embarassed to wear a pad underneath. eventually i began to skip class when i had my period. IDK that there's a good solution if there's not a clothing option/alternative...
post #59 of 77
I too learned right away that a tampon was a fine option for me! There was no way I was going to ask to wear shorts or skirts (anything outside the uniform) during my period....that would be like yelling "hey, I have my period!" Way too humiliating.

Underwear- you just don't. If you don't like it ballet is probably not for you. Ballet is very 'old school' and there are some things you just do and some you don't. Classical ballet is very different than other forms of dance. Very steeped in 'tradition'.

I would offer her a slender tampon and see what happens. Belts, pads, etc all sound so bulky and uncomfortable. Just my 2 cents.
post #60 of 77

Ballet and my periods

When I was taking ballet and had my period I had to adhere to my mothers method which was a good old white kotex sanitary belt and this long tabbed napkin. It was very old fashion I think in the 80's but it did work well under my tights.
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