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[Amylcd]

Um.. that deserved a CPS call that day.

[LynnS6]

Her parents need to call CPS yesterday!

CPS has the resources to investigate this. If the child has already told her mom this and mom has done nothing, it must go further.

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[mamazee]

Uhm, I'd call CPS, and I'm usually slow to recommend that. She might be traumatized by a foster home, but I'd give it a 95% chance she's being raped, based on that description. At least that's precisely how my dd would have described it at that age (I told her the real names for our parts but she called everything a "butt" for a long time). And it sounds like her mother isn't going to protect her. A random foster home would be preferable, IMO.

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[Amylcd]

This happened tonight, I just got the e-mail. And is CPS going to put her in with some random foster family further traumatizing her?

Right now, it seems like the child is getting sexually abused by the boyfriend and her mother does not care or want to acknowledge it. The child will not go to a foster home if the grandparents can provide a safe environment for her (and are willing to keep her while this case is looked into).

[Amylcd]

Originally Posted by ToastyToes

If the mother is defensive about the BF, and the little girls says she's told her mom (so I assume that she at least tried to talk to her mom about it) I'd go straight to CPS. I think talking to the mom risks angering the mom and/or BF & putting the girl at further risk.

I agree. I would not tell the mom that the little girl mentioned this.

[Lisa1970]

You need to call CPS. Sounds like the mother is not interested in giving up her boyfriend or the fringe benefits of for the sake of the child. Please please call.

[Maeve]

Yes, please call. Right away. Since the mother doesn't seem to want to put her child first, someone needs to.

[tiffani]

wow, that's brutal. Ideally the little girl would be able to stay with her grandparents at least until an investigation is carried out -- she should definitely be taken to see a child therapist who might know how to get more information out of her without traumatizing her, and possibly examined by a doctor who is also familiar with how to connect with children who have possibly been sexually abused -- I can't even imagine a child having to go through that. I suppose the first step then is calling CPS? I do think I'd call CPS before the mama, in this case...

[Storm Bride]

I'm one of the last on here to ever recommend calling CPS...and I'd tell the grandmother right away that she should call - and probably look into the possibility of a placement with her, if that's how things go down.

What an awful thing to hear.

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[chaoticzenmom]

I don't think I"d call cps first, I'd go straight to the police station with the girl and have her tell the police. This is not a cps investigation thing, it's a criminal thing. It needs to be dealt with by the police. Gramma should take the girl there right away and file a report.

[katheek77]

You call CPS. You tell them what you heard.

In the case of probable sexual abuse (and, honestly, in what context does a grown man put his "butt" against a 4 year olds where it hurts), you err on the side of caution, which means protecting the child. Quite frankly, she sounds like she's in a situation where she is being traumatized, whether by the boyfriend or someone else is for others to sort out, but, in the meantime, she needs to be protected.

You call CPS. End of story.