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post #41 of 662
FondestBianca-I felt really tired too. But then I had my iron tested and found out I was extremely anemic! I've been on iron for a couple/few weeks and haven't noticed any difference though.
I do have to watch it though because I do feel tired I want to grab the sugary treats and carbs for that energy boost. I find my body craving them.
I have to remember that it might cause a rise in energy but it's just short term and I will surely crash afterwards. Now I try to reach for something more protein filled-I dont always make the right choice though.
post #42 of 662
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Originally Posted by FondestBianca View Post
anyone else feel really tired right after going on ww?

I'm pretty excited about my tuesday-freeday this week. Last week I didn't end up doing much with it oddly. 4 big peanut butter, chocolate chunk cookies and a big fat organic freerange steak. Aside from those 2 things I ate very reasonably the rest of that day. Strange, I thought I'd try to shove everything in I could. I guess my freeday is sort of my adaptation of the extra weekly points. I don't use them at all during the week (heck, I haven't even been managing to let myself eat all of my daily pts).
You're really not following the plan at all, and you might feel better if you did.

First, you NEED to eat all your daily points. That's the amount your body NEEDS. You aren't eating enough food, and you feel tired. This isn't because you started WW, it's because you made up your own diet that doesn't really work for you. Try actually doing WW and see if it goes better. (Also, be sure and drink 6 glasses of water each day and take a vitamin). (And I mean this VERY kindly. I've been there )

Next, it's fine to use all your WP in one day as a splurge, but go ahead and figure out how many points you are eating. I suspect that you aren't eating all 35, so I'm not telling you to eat less. I'm encouraging you to be honest with yourself about your eating. It's difficult, and yet very healing to just honestly track.

Just look up how much the cookies are, then write is down, and then eat them. OR eat the cookies, look them up, and then writen them down. Tracking is about being honest with our selves.

WW is a middle path. Most of us have tried both overeating and undereating. Now we are aiming for the middle.

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Originally Posted by Ceinwen View Post
Name: Melissa

Do you have a WW goal for March? It's very loose right now. I'm in my last semester of nursing in university, so I'm doing my pregrad. I work twelve hour shifts (nights & days) so my schedule is hectic. I also have two little girls, ages six and one and am currently going through a separation. My mother convinced me to join WW with her because she's concerned about me. I weigh more today than I did when I delivered my daughter over a year ago. So, my March goal is to simply be more active - take the stairs at work, walk to the mail everyday, little things.
hello Melissa! It sounds like you've had a difficult year.

All of our lives are very different, so as you are trying to figure out how to make WW work in your hectic life, be sure and post. We'll help you brainstorm solutions!

And hello to everyone else!!! Welcome to March!
post #43 of 662
Welcome Melissa!! I go to WW with my mom too - though she joined after I'd been doing it for a while already. It's fun to have someone you know at the meetings!

I will join you Linda in being OP today. Does cleaning dd's room count as activity? Both girls rooms were a disaster, so dh and I took one room each. In the 2 hours it took me to clean dd2's room I burned 300 calories! (I was wearing my heart rate monitor just for fun to see what I would burn. I love it!) It's just after lunch, and the only ghg I've fulfilled is Dairy. In addition, I've had one fruit. I plan to have some fruit for a snack in a bit, then we are going to my parents' for supper tonight. My mom is also on WW so I know it will be fairly point friendly and i should be able to get at least 2 veggie servings in, and probably an oil. I will somehow get everything by the end of the day. I also look forward to going to my parents for supper not only because I don't have to cook, but it's usually the only time we ever eat dessert (my mom only makes something when we come over but dd1 is convinced that grandma and grandpa eat dessert every day since we always have it when we are there!). I always make sure to have points for that. it's never anything big or pointy unless we're celebrating a birthday or something, but it's nice to have the little treat!

I'm looking forward to wearing my heart rate monitor when I work out for real tomorrow, it will be interesting to see how accurate the treadmill is in comparison.
post #44 of 662
Maia, when you reduced balsamic vinegar it does get tacky when it cools. It's not sticky per se, more tacky-ish.

Tracy, where are you in your cycle? I am definitely more tired the week before AF than normal. And on my "free" day on WW, I have found that I don't really go hog wild either. I did the first week and that's why my weightloss was probably "only" 1 1/2 pounds the following week. But I have found that my cravings for crap/naughty foods eventually reduce on WW. I'm free on Fridays after WI, when's your free day?

Welcome Melissa! We're so happy to have you here.
post #45 of 662
I'm cleaning our big bathroom today, Natasha so I'm right there with you too. I'm actually procrastinatomg from mopping the floor.

And now we've got two Melissas!
post #46 of 662
Three days without the internet & I've got serious withdrawals from not checking the WW thread(s)! Dh's stupid work schedule kept me away from you guys for way too long. He's the only one that can 'talk' some sense into the stupid modem we have. *sigh*

Name:Ami
Starting Weight:207.5
Current Weight:200.5 (I lost 2lbs this week with the extra nursing points, yay!)
Lifetime Goal (if you've set one):130-135 I'm 5'3 but I'm pretty muscular. When I was down to 160, I did not look overweight at all. I had a tiny tummy, lol.

Do you do WW through meetings, on-line, or on your own? On my own--although I like to count you guys as my online WW group! No money for the weekly meetings or online.

Do you follow another special diet at the same time? I try to stay away from corn (ds' allergy) & dairy (very bad for me). I try to stay as whole foods as possible. So no icky fake 'butters', lol. I do treat myself to some diet 7 up every now & then, & I do use stevia for my decaf coffee.

Do you have a WW goal for March?
Well, I'd like to be under 200 before my birthday this Thursday!!! lol I'm not sure if I should weigh myself beforehand though. I'm a daily weigh-er, but it doesn't throw me for a loop, so I see no harm in it. I'm bad at holding out for surprises, and waiting a whole week to weigh in...I just can't.
Non-weight goals: to get in 8 glassed of liquids a day--I totally suck at this.
To work out 3 days a week. I injured my right foot this past Tuesday and it still hurts to walk on. But I think I might be able to still do the bike since I'm not putting any weight on it.

Ami
post #47 of 662
Happy early birthday, Ami! I hope you get your little mini goal this week.

I'm a daily weigher too. Don't worry. You're not alone.
post #48 of 662
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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post
You're really not following the plan at all, and you might feel better if you did.

First, you NEED to eat all your daily points. That's the amount your body NEEDS. You aren't eating enough food, and you feel tired. This isn't because you started WW, it's because you made up your own diet that doesn't really work for you. Try actually doing WW and see if it goes better. (Also, be sure and drink 6 glasses of water each day and take a vitamin). (And I mean this VERY kindly. I've been there )

Next, it's fine to use all your WP in one day as a splurge, but go ahead and figure out how many points you are eating. I suspect that you aren't eating all 35, so I'm not telling you to eat less. I'm encouraging you to be honest with yourself about your eating. It's difficult, and yet very healing to just honestly track.

Just look up how much the cookies are, then write is down, and then eat them. OR eat the cookies, look them up, and then writen them down. Tracking is about being honest with our selves.

WW is a middle path. Most of us have tried both overeating and undereating. Now we are aiming for the middle.
every day I try to eat all of my pts and every day so far I've failed. When I was on ww the last time I wasn't BFing and only had 22 pts to start then down to 20 by a month. I did all the right things at first. Filling foods, balanced diet, all my pts, made the best out of my pts by eating whole wheat noodles and bread, low pts snacks, lots of veggies and fruits, meat every day (chicken or shrimp), lots of water, etc, etc. Then I started to manipulate it because for once I had total control over something (I started cutting pts). I could tell myself it was an unhealthy mindset all I wanted but, that didn't change anything because I kept loosing and thought I'd find content once I was some unknown size or weight. Well, then I got sick of it wanted to feel alive again so I went completely off ww. In the last 2 years, between a few crash diets that only lasted a month a very most and having a baby I've gained 40lbs. I'd say thats a lot in that amount of time.

I'm working on fixing the inside but, until I get a better handle on that those pts are going to be very hard to eat. it seems like I either binge and sweets and carbs all day long or go on a diet and take it to the extreme so I don't feel like I'm wasting all this time not being able to eat what I want.

I understand but at the same time I don't yk. I WANT to eat all of my pts. I know I should but, I just don't. I can't eat them... I don't know why. For someone with such a binge attitude I really am surprisingly terrible at eating all of my pts. I need to fix this but, I don't know how. It's like I'm incapable of making myself eat all 33 pts. I just keep thinking, my supply is fine, there is no way I need that many more cals just for BFing. What I'm eating is healthy... I'm probably just not eating enough I guess. But, there I go just telling myself that as long as my supply doesnt suffer and my blood sugar doesn't get too low I'm fine. I mean, I'm eating plenty over what I should be if I wasn't BFing.... thats the tape that I keep playing for myself in my head.

I don't understand. I'm a smart person but, an idiot who doesn't listen that little truth hiding in me somewhere.

I thought I could do it right this time... I really did. I hope I can make it better each day and get closer to correct each time. I'm not going to give up at this because I've really let myself go and I feel emotionally and physcially uncomfortable in my skin. My body feels aweful, I really need to clean up my eating habbits, I need to keeping trying ww and not let myself slip up and eat over my pts. If I do that, I'll quit on the spot. I need to keep going and try my hardest not to screw myself up in the process.

this is hard. changing the inside, reprogramming, is hard.
post #49 of 662

I need veggie help!

So, my mini goal is to get at least 3 servings of veggies per day - I can do this if I have one for lunch and two for dinner.

But, I'm in a veggie rut. Here are my issues:
-What can I bring for lunch? I'm getting tired of raw broccoli and raw carrots. I pack my own lunch, and 3 days a week don't have time to heat anything up, so it's got to be able to be eaten cold.

-Dh does not eat veggies. Period. At all. (It's a sensory thing, and unless he wants to do feeding therapy, it's not going to happen). So, I can't mix veggies into what I'm cooking. They have to be prepared on the side. (I can mix them on my plate.)

-I'd like it to be mostly local food, and in season. (What the heck IS in season in Oregon in March?)

Help!
post #50 of 662
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Originally Posted by Jennifer3141 View Post
Maia, when you reduced balsamic vinegar it does get tacky when it cools. It's not sticky per se, more tacky-ish.

Tracy, where are you in your cycle? I am definitely more tired the week before AF than normal. And on my "free" day on WW, I have found that I don't really go hog wild either. I did the first week and that's why my weightloss was probably "only" 1 1/2 pounds the following week. But I have found that my cravings for crap/naughty foods eventually reduce on WW. I'm free on Fridays after WI, when's your free day?

Welcome Melissa! We're so happy to have you here.
I have no idea! I've been PMSy (emotional so it's probably about that time but, I never know for sure because my period hasn't returned yet.

my free day is tuesday because dh's weekend is mon-tues. I figure he enjoys being able to have a big dinner on his day off

I remember that my cravings did reduce along with my appetite on my last go at ww. At about the 5 month mark they all came flooding back at once though... thats about the time I jumped off the wagon
post #51 of 662
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Originally Posted by FondestBianca View Post
anyone else feel really tired right after going on ww?
For me it did call attention to my habits of self-medicating my tiredness with food. Now I drink black coffee or skim milk cafe au laits. There's always just plain getting more sleep, but if I knew the answer to that with a job, a 2yo, and solo parenting half the time, I would be all over it.
post #52 of 662
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Originally Posted by Hazel View Post
FondestBianca-I felt really tired too. But then I had my iron tested and found out I was extremely anemic! I've been on iron for a couple/few weeks and haven't noticed any difference though.
I do have to watch it though because I do feel tired I want to grab the sugary treats and carbs for that energy boost. I find my body craving them.
I have to remember that it might cause a rise in energy but it's just short term and I will surely crash afterwards. Now I try to reach for something more protein filled-I dont always make the right choice though.
I've had problems with my iron in the past. It's gone both extreme low and extreme high. It flip flops seemingly randomly. I don't have insurance right now to get it tested. I can't just increase my intake because my iron very well could be too high instead.

sugars do leave you with a total crash. probably why I had problems with blood crashes. oh but they taste so good!
post #53 of 662
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Originally Posted by nina_yyc View Post
For me it did call attention to my habits of self-medicating my tiredness with food. Now I drink black coffee or skim milk cafe au laits. There's always just plain getting more sleep, but if I knew the answer to that with a job, a 2yo, and solo parenting half the time, I would be all over it.
yah, life makes sleeping rather difficult sometimes doesn't it?! between a 3yo, 13 wk old, dh working lots, money stress, and sleep interrupted by nightly confusion, improper REM, and nocturnal hallucinations.... good sleep is hard to get! I can't imagine having a job in addition. Kudos to you for holding your fort down with that to handle!
post #54 of 662
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Originally Posted by LynnS6 View Post
So, my mini goal is to get at least 3 servings of veggies per day - I can do this if I have one for lunch and two for dinner.

But, I'm in a veggie rut. Here are my issues:
-What can I bring for lunch? I'm getting tired of raw broccoli and raw carrots. I pack my own lunch, and 3 days a week don't have time to heat anything up, so it's got to be able to be eaten cold.

-Dh does not eat veggies. Period. At all. (It's a sensory thing, and unless he wants to do feeding therapy, it's not going to happen). So, I can't mix veggies into what I'm cooking. They have to be prepared on the side. (I can mix them on my plate.)

-I'd like it to be mostly local food, and in season. (What the heck IS in season in Oregon in March?)

Help!
Are you a salad person? Personally, I often make a meal out of a big leafy salad and I throw in whatever is in the fridge and fulfills what I'm lacking that day i.e. cubes of cheese for dairy, meat and/or beans for protein, raw veggies grated or cut into chunks, etc. I like fruit in mine, too, often dried this time of year. I also sprinkle flaxseed meal on top and sometimes wheat germ. Doing this, you can get lots checked off the GHG with relatively few points!
What about bringing the raw veggies with something to dip them in? Hummus is a favorite of mine. 1/4 cup is 2 points, I think(my book is downstairs and my family is asleep so I don't want to risk our old creaky floors waking them! ) You could also do a low-cal ranch dressing or something. I have a great hummus recipe I can share later if anyone's interested. It takes *maybe* 5 minutes to make. We always have it on hand. The kids love it! And dipping forces me to eat my crackers and veggies slower when I have them for a snack.

Linda, I accept your challenge! I am, so far, OP with food, but haven't had activity. I was just going to curl up with my book but, thanks to you, I am going to head to the gym instead! I guess an "old" dog CAN learn new tricks!
post #55 of 662
Tracy-I really feel for you. Your post made me sad. I wish I had something very wise to say, but the best I can do is and tell you that you are not alone! I have felt that way before, I'm sure many of us had. Self-improvement is not for sissies! It IS hard work! My journey is far from over, but I feel I have made progress and, believe me, it is worth it! Please know we are all here to support you.
post #56 of 662
Lynn, do you have a microwave at work? How about squash prepared ahead in baggies and then heated in the microwave at work?

Potatoes are in season up here with hothouses. What about a prebaked potato fixed up at work with some cheese and broccoli? And I've been snacking on edamame. They are good cold! The kdis have fallen in love with thse little "to go" bags of edamame from the health food store. How do you feel about Dora, Lynn?

Tracy, I think we've got to get at your insides a bit. I love my free day but I eat every darn point every other day OP. You're a little binge-ier than I am. We've got to figure this out. If I remember correctly, your baby is young too, right? Is it possible you've got PPD, sweetie? Are you self-medicating with sugar? When I breastfed my kids, I liked eating "super foods" and thinking all that pomegranate, green tea, etc. etc. got into my milk through my diet. Can you think of your extra points that way? They are points for your baby, really.
post #57 of 662
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Originally Posted by Jennifer3141 View Post
Happy early birthday, Ami! I hope you get your little mini goal this week.

I'm a daily weigher too. Don't worry. You're not alone.
Thanks for the birthday wishes! I'm looking forward to it & also not. I'm going to be 27 (gosh, I feel old! lol) and it will be dinner out with family. I want sushi though. I'm going to save up as many weeklies for sushi as possible. I've been dreaming about the salmon sashimi.:

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Originally Posted by FondestBianca View Post
I'm working on fixing the inside but, until I get a better handle on that those pts are going to be very hard to eat. it seems like I either binge and sweets and carbs all day long or go on a diet and take it to the extreme so I don't feel like I'm wasting all this time not being able to eat what I want.
I thought I could do it right this time... I really did. I hope I can make it better each day and get closer to correct each time. I'm not going to give up at this because I've really let myself go and I feel emotionally and physcially uncomfortable in my skin. My body feels aweful, I really need to clean up my eating habbits, I need to keeping trying ww and not let myself slip up and eat over my pts. If I do that, I'll quit on the spot. I need to keep going and try my hardest not to screw myself up in the process.

this is hard. changing the inside, reprogramming, is hard.
Hugs, Tracy. I used to be a binge eater too. And an emotional eater. Still fighting the emotional eating from time to time, but the binge eating I've conquered. It's a hard road, but it can be done. For me, I found that WW actually cured me of it. I forced myself to eat all my points. And to eat whatever I really wanted. So, if I wanted chocolate cake, I'd eat it while staying in points. I found that this REALLY helped me break the binge-starve cycle. Once there was no food I couldn't eat, my binge triggers weren't hit anymore. What would happen if you ate all of your points? Even if that meant you had a sugary dessert to do it? What's the worst that would happen? By allowing yourself to eat 'forbidden' foods in portion controlled pieces you are breaking bad habits. First, you get rid of the 'good food, bad food' dichotomy that's failed you all this time. Second, you are training yourself to eat a reasonable amount of food--not too much to stuff yourself, but not so little you starve yourself. And let's be real, never having cake again is so not worth it. Cake every day, no, but never again? That would be mean & unnecessary.

This is all from personal experience/theorizing, but I've found that anorexics & binge eaters are really different sides of the same coin. One of my friends used to be anorexic, then began binge eating and, by the time I met her, very overweight. It's the whole cycle of 'control'. By binge eating you think you don't have control but you do. You are choosing to not put any restrictions on the amount & type of food you are eating. That IS control. Sometimes I fight myself wanting to lower my points too much. Shoot, for the first couple weeks I didn't give myself any nursing points--big mistake & falling into past habits. The thing is, I was scared the whole time this week using them, but I did use them & all my weeklies. And I lost 2 lbs without starving. So it works. I have to trust that the process works & follow it. That's the great thing about WW--thousands of women have tested this program over & over again and they keep refining it to make it better & better. It's hard to let go, but ultimately, you need to just jump in feet first.

So, all this long winded post to say: Just do it. It's scary, it's hard, but you need to jump. You need to trust the process and stop clinging to behaviors that have proven to hurt you. It's scary because it's the unknown, but once you do it, I promise, it will get easier to fight your ingrained habits.

Oh, and the whole nursing points are there so that you don't lose weight too quickly. You don't want to lose weight faster than your body can detox, otherwise you are pushing all those extra toxins into your bm and then your child. Especially for an EBF baby, that's very very dangerous. They also give you extra points so you can eat lots more nutrients than you would otherwise. Believe me, I've depleted my body of iron (literally, I had no stores left) and it was very unpleasant. It's also very dangerous. I had to change a lot of things I did to get back to 'normal', and even now I have to be careful I don't fall back into the wrong habits.
Right now, with bf your body needs more nutrients so that you can give them to your baby and have enough left over for yourself. And calories are a nutrient. If you don't have enough, your supply might not diminish right now, but in the future, with your growing baby's demands and even less calories coming in, something will have to give, kwim?

Ami
post #58 of 662
Welcome Melissa!!

I'm such a dork, I totally thought today was still Feb. and TOMORROW was March...oh well


I'm not working out today but I'm doing everything else!! I went over my wp by 14 . It made me realize HOW much I usually eat. It also made me realize how important it is to eat those. I havent been eating them for a whole month and so when I did let myself eat whatever I was eating all these things I'd wnted for the whole month (DS broke my A key so sometimes it doesn't work). When I added up the points I ws like HOLY crpola! So my goal is to do enough working out to retroactively bank my points and get me bck at zero for the end of the week.
post #59 of 662
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Originally Posted by Hazel View Post
I'm there Linda except for the activity. I'm not allowed yet. Well I could do my PT exercises, they take my about 30 min. so I'll do those!
(also I did weigh myself but that's because I bought a new scale-story follows-and wanted to see how it weighs me).


Ok, I need some takes on this.
The scale I've been weighing on is about 11 years old. It's been through 6 moves and dropped a couple of times (at least). I know the top has come off at least once or twice and it has been used by my kids a lot (used=played on/with). So I decided to get a new scale. I was in Costco and found a WW scale and it had a rebate even so I bought it!
I weighed on that one today (not my WI day but I was curious as to how it would weigh me compared to my old one). According to my new WW scale I weigh anywhere between 4 to 4.5 lbs LIGHTER. which would mean I'm in a new points (lower points) weight-and I've been eating at teh higher points. I stepped on the new WW scale a few times and it did vary by .7 depending on how my feet were placed. straight, it was .7 higher than if they were in a slight V shape.
so....do you think the WW one is accurate? should I go with the new scale since it has been abused less even though it varies by my foot placement? on my old scale it didn't matter where I placed my feet.
or is this WW scale not a good scale? I could always return it and get a different scale. what's your take on it?
I have the same Costco WW scale, got it a few weeks ago. I can get on it 5 times and get 2 or 3 different weights, but within a few tenths.

When I went to my meeting this week, I weighed myself right before, and the scale at my meeting had me .1# higher, so I think it's pretty accurate.
post #60 of 662
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Originally Posted by Jennifer3141 View Post
Tracy, I think we've got to get at your insides a bit. I love my free day but I eat every darn point every other day OP. You're a little binge-ier than I am. We've got to figure this out. If I remember correctly, your baby is young too, right? Is it possible you've got PPD, sweetie? Are you self-medicating with sugar? When I breastfed my kids, I liked eating "super foods" and thinking all that pomegranate, green tea, etc. etc. got into my milk through my diet. Can you think of your extra points that way? They are points for your baby, really.
I dont know about the PPD. Ds is 13 weeks on tuesday. I had PPD with dd big time and I feel nothing like that now so I really dont think I have much of it. Ds is a good eater and a great sleeper so my stress levels haven't really increased with him much.

I've always been a binge eater. When I was a kid I didnt notice because I was thin and active and aware of my physical body really. Then puberty hit and I got my first, "you should watch what you eat" comment from someone else. From that day forward I was very aware of my weight. I didn't actually get "chubby" or "chunky" or "overweight" until after highschool. In high school I just focused on the other physical stuff I didn't like about myself or personality flaws. I've always been really hard on myself. As an adult much of it is directed at my size.

When it comes to food I just give in. I've never (and will never) tried alcohol, cigaretts, or drugs and it's a darn good thing since I have a tendency to overdo! Food is something I was never told no about. If my mom said no it was only because something was too expensive. My mom cleaned up her diet after I was an adult and shes really healthy now (exercise every day and all) but, I moved out before that influence could soak in a guess. My dad and brother are incapable of getting overweight and can eat garbage whenever they please. Dh can eat junk and stay 145 year round too. : I got so used to never having to say no to food. I gave up fast food, soda, and caffine cold turkey a few years ago(never gonna go back to them again!) but that didnt seem to effect my weight gain. I love me some baked goods and desserts. Pasta, pasta, pasta (the whole wheat pasta just doesn't do it for me).

Honestly, I don't think I'm an emotional eater... I'm just addicted to the act of eating. I barely even chew my food before I'm shoving more in. I gaurd my food like a pitbull and hate to share my food (I really only let dd share with me ). A former alcoholic is told to stay away from bars and people who drink.... but, I can't stay away from places that serve food and people who eat it.

the last time I was on ww I got too small. Didn't think so then, but looking back at pics now I'm amazed that I still thought I was too big back then. I hope I can at least hold on to that tiny thread of hope that I may have wrapped my brain around at least part of the problem. I feel like I'm talking but getting nowhere and blabbing on and on about nothingness. I can't explain this problem with any less than a novel.
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