Breastfeeding while driving - Page 4

[vbactivist]

Originally Posted by mamajama

No. But it should be illegal to drive whilst nursing.

Just what we need - more government interference. Let people use their own judgement. Just like we expect in matters relating to birth and medical care.

[mamajama]

Originally Posted by vbactivist

One is not in an accident EVERY time one drives. That is my point. And actually, there are lots of things that are distracting to a driver. Why is making all of those things illegal "dumb"??? The laws should be something like "unable to drive safely", then there wouldn't need to be a law for "every single thing". If soemone is eating, talking on the phone or breastfeeding, while still able to drive safely, then they should be left alone.

The reason laws become more specific is that it saves a lot of court time. That's why we have such things as specific speed limits and fines which vary in amount according to the severity of the infraction. Statistics show that there are certain specific speeds at which one can navigate safely. This law applies to all...from nascar racers to 45 yr old business people.

[mamajama]

Originally Posted by vbactivist

Just what we need - more government interference. Let people use their own judgement. Just like we expect in matters relating to birth and medical care.

I, for one, am pretty glad there are traffic laws in existence.

[vbactivist]

Originally Posted by mermaidmama

If I am on my way to the pharmacy for my meds and the baby starts crying for a nursing........I'D PULL THE CAR OVER AND NURSE. IT IS THAT EASY. And yet.....some people are to lazy and would rather put their child (and other drivers) at risk. And yes, we do things all the time that are risky. BUT that is no reason to take up it up a notch, not when it involves others lives. Seriously, give me a break.

And I am telling you, I have had babies that scream EVERY time they were in the car. Whether they had just been fed/changed/rocked etc. The minute they were put back in the carseat, they screamed. I was lucky enough to have a husband and a mother around to chauffuer me most days. But, as I stated above with my daughter, if I didn't have them and I HAD to go somewhere, like the doctors, I could not let her cry. It was actually physically bad for her. Thankfully I had other options. Not everyone does. And I say if one can get from point a to point b safely then it's noone else's business how they do it.

[claddaghmom]

Originally Posted by vbactivist

One is not in an accident EVERY time one drives. That is my point. And actually, there are lots of things that are distracting to a driver. Why is making all of those things illegal "dumb"??? The laws should be something like "unable to drive safely", then there wouldn't need to be a law for "every single thing". If soemone is eating, talking on the phone or breastfeeding, while still able to drive safely, then they should be left alone.

Alright, I have to say that such a law would seem to solve things. I couldn't help feeling this way when cellphones were being outlawed...heck I drive with a cellphone more safely than tons of other people who aren't using cells...I've seen people undressing and dressing, eating, drawing/writing, reading, craning their head to change the channel/watch the screen in the minivan, etc. But supposedly cells are bad and should be outlawed.

It should be all or nothing.

And just think if it was nothing...Darwinism at its best!

[mamajama]

Originally Posted by vbactivist

And I am telling you, I have had babies that scream EVERY time they were in the car. Whether they had just been fed/changed/rocked etc. The minute they were put back in the carseat, they screamed. I was lucky enough to have a husband and a mother around to chauffuer me most days. But, as I stated above with my daughter, if I didn't have them and I HAD to go somewhere, like the doctors, I could not let her cry. It was actually physically bad for her. Thankfully I had other options. Not everyone does. And I say if one can get from point a to point b safely then it's noone else's business how they do it.

: "Safely"= the rub. It just isn't safe to drive, talk on the phone, and nurse a baby all at the same time.

[carlylovesthesims2]

its not about you vbactivist its about everybody on the road you never know when someone will suddenly pull out in front of you or have a heart attack anything breatfeeding a toddler in the lowest prority in a car IMO a car is a dangerous weapon the biggest cause of accidents here is teenagers bending down to pick up their cds or cellphones

[vbactivist]

Originally Posted by mamajama

: "Safely"= the rub. It just isn't safe to drive, talk on the phone, and nurse a baby all at the same time.

if someone gets to their destination without an accident, then I would say it IS safe, for that person.

[carlylovesthesims2]

Originally Posted by vbactivist

if someone gets to their destination without an accident, then I would say it IS safe, for that person.

but if she doesnt and she crashes and kills her baby or another person or child thats called murder

[ginadc]

if someone gets to their destination without an accident, then I would say it IS safe, for that person.

So driving drunk is safe? Because I'm sure there are a lot of drunk drivers out there who haven't yet gotten into an accident and injured or killed someone. So it must be safe "for that person" -- right?

[Katzchen]

Originally Posted by vbactivist

if someone gets to their destination without an accident, then I would say it IS safe, for that person.

By that logic it would mean that playing Russian roulette is safe so long as no one gets hurt. I fail to understand how ignoring the possibility of harm can make something safe.

[Daphneduck]

Originally Posted by vbactivist

if someone gets to their destination without an accident, then I would say it IS safe, for that person.

Really? Last weekend my dh and I woke up at 2am to our neighbor, who lives across the street, trying to unlock our front door. Turns out that he was drunk and had driven 12 miles to get home, so drunk that he couldnt even recognize that he was trying to get into the wrong house. Was it safe, just because he made it here without killing anyone?
I am just shocked that there is a person on the face of the Earth that could in any way defend this. I hope that woman goes to jail for 180 days and I hope that she isnt so stupid to actually do it again.

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[kalimay]

"Children unbuckled in cars is a known danger to their health."

I just wanted to point out that the same could be said for children who are riding buckled in cars. Cars are dangerous.

[mommy2maya]

Originally Posted by kalimay

"Children unbuckled in cars is a known danger to their health."

I just wanted to point out that the same could be said for children who are riding buckled in cars. Cars are dangerous.

yes, cars are potentially dangerous. Riding in carseats is known to reduce the risks associated with car accidents.

[goodheartedmama]

I'm glad she's being punished, but I don't think it's harsh enough, honestly. It's time that people start learning that it is wrong to do things like this. When my 2 year old was little, we lived about 30 minutes from my parents and I had to pull over at least once to nurse her every time. It sucked, and there have been many times where I thought it would be nice if it was safe to hold and nurse my baby while driving, but it's NOT! Not obeying even the child safety laws that our gov't has laid out for us is child endangerment. I won't hold people to the ERF/ extended harnessing because it's not as well-known, but how do you not know it's wrong to remove your child from their carseat in a moving vehicle? Maybe if punishments got a little harsher, people would be a little more cautious. Or maybe not, but there has to be a punishment for endangering the life of a minor in such a precarious way. I'm all for GD, but that's for my child, not the gov't.

[goodheartedmama]

Originally Posted by vbactivist

abi I'm glad you're here

My point was more that sometimesyou NEED to get somewhere and still comfort your baby. This woman sounded like she could have made a diffeerent choice. I just dont' want my choices legislated away. Like I said, I nursed my daughter many times in the back of the car when my husband or mom was driving. If I needed to go pick up a prescription, ie insulin or something and I didn't have anyone to turn to for help and i had to take my daughter to the store with me, I may consider driving and nursing her (before her repair and if she were hysterical). I'm just saying I wouldn't want to be ticketed or whatever for making that choice, ESPECIALLY if no harm came from that choice.

So basically what you're saying is that it's no biggie until the kid dies? It would be much cooler to just prevent it.

[vbactivist]

Originally Posted by Katzchen

By that logic it would mean that playing Russian roulette is safe so long as no one gets hurt. I fail to understand how ignoring the possibility of harm can make something safe.

People ignore the possibilty of harm EVERY time they get into a motor vehicle, car seat or not. Cars are dangerous. Screaming babies can be too.

[vbactivist]

Originally Posted by Daphneduck

Really? Last weekend my dh and I woke up at 2am to our neighbor, who lives across the street, trying to unlock our front door. Turns out that he was drunk and had driven 12 miles to get home, so drunk that he couldnt even recognize that he was trying to get into the wrong house. Was it safe, just because he made it here without killing anyone?
I am just shocked that there is a person on the face of the Earth that could in any way defend this. I hope that woman goes to jail for 180 days and I hope that she isnt so stupid to actually do it again.

I really hope she doesn't face jailtime. Yes, she made a (probably) bad choice. But noone was harmed. So does she really need to be sepearted from her children for 9 months??

[vbactivist]

Originally Posted by goodheartedmama

So basically what you're saying is that it's no biggie until the kid dies? It would be much cooler to just prevent it.

No. What I'm saying is I don't want the govenment micromanaging my life or my parenting. Should homebirth be illegal because a baby might die being born at home?

My point is, we all make choices concerning our children that not everyone would agree with. I just want to be free to make those choices for myself. I don't care what other people do.