I think futurmama posed a valid question:
Why are AAs the most desirable candidates?
Originally Posted by Jane91
Anyone who believes that the under-representation of certain minorities at universities is the result of discrimination at the admissions office level versus the awful job many of our public schools do preparing minority students for college hasn't visited academia recently.
Yeah, there’s no arguing that the public schools neglect to prepare minority students (and poor students) for college entry. Let’s not forget that politics and economic power are what influence the quality of public schools, provided for by local and state government.
As a side note: When it comes to education, *I* don’t believe everyone should be college bound. The most “successful” people that *I personally know* never went to college (let me also add, they are all immigrants). So, while I agree that we should recruit and provide higher education for whoever is qualified and interested in pursuing it, I don’t think it’s the only route to help our citizens become productive members of society. Therefore, I don’t believe the sole focus should entail college entrance or attendance.
Back to how poorly the schools prepare students for college, my mind’s scattered in many directions- trying to expand on this point without writing a thesis
The few examples that come to mind - come from various sources (OK, I admit -from all over the place. <shrug>).
First, one isolated example I’m thinking of- is from the movie “Stand and Deliver”, based on a true story about a teacher (Escalante) in East L.A. High School, where the expectations of students (mostly Mexican) was so low, AP courses (Calculus) weren’t even offered.
Next, Jonathan Kozol (heard him speak live about a decade ago), author of several books where he discusses the disparity in education based on class and race. He examines the deplorable conditions and segregation that still exists for minority students in the public schools today, more than half a century after Brown vs. the Board of Ed.
A summary of his book, “Savage Inequalities”http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~kasto...ws-savage.html
Here’s J. Kozol on youtube, The Shame of the Nationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VS9XHbEaFY
Another youtube vid, "Education in America" (6 parts)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgkZK...eature=related
Let me add: According to Kozol, the most segregated school systems in the country are NY, Michigan, and Illinois- in that order.
Thanks to this thread, I’ve also found some vids on youtube of Tim Wise (author of “White Like Me”)...... but I’m having trouble finding the link where he talks about how the lack of AP/college prep courses (paraphrasing, I have to find that link) in minority schools.
Lastly, I think of First Lady Michelle Obama’s undergraduate thesis at Princeton, “Educated Blacks and the Black Community”(1985) ....
What's the experience of students once they're in colleges/universy? (How relevant is this today? I mean, with the increase pressure of political correctness, there might be a decrease in openly expressing racism. But what about people's deep-rooted ideas about race?)
An excerpt from the 1st Lady’s thesis: “My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my “Blackness” than ever before. I have found that at Princeton no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my White professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don’t belong. Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be Black first and a student second. ”http://www.scribd.com/doc/2305083/Pr...lack-Community
I have a few minority friends who encountered a similar experience to the 1st Lady. One friend of mine struggled so much, that she dropped out of Columbia.