Racial identification - Page 5

[Draupadi]

I think the hair topic (which always finds it's way into a conversation) belongs somewhere else. It just gets too heated...

[futurmama8]

I agree Williamsmama, We got very off track from the point of this thread. Maybe somone else can start a thread about it if it matters to anyone. We got totally off topic I apologize.

[Barbamama]

Originally Posted by futurmama8

She said tame not me.. read her post. And I am not saying what is for me is for everyone, I was simply tellin her that it is not always easier to have straight hair as she said it is.

That is the best way I can describe being natural or chemically processing your hair. You are permanently changing your hair and their is no way to get that back unless you cut it all off.. ofcourse it is not as permanent as circumcision because you can get your hair back in some cases. Circumcision is permanently altering a body part (without the persons say of course so a difference there also) so that it will look different and will be easier to clean and take care of as VanessaS said it was with her hair. With a foreskin you can never get the actual foreskin back but you can restore it as best as it can be done. I know this is not a perfect example nothing is but I used it because most people get their child circumcised because they THINK it is easier and that is the only reason I used it. Now if you like getting a perm because you just do then fine I don't care as long as you love it. But I just used that example because VanessaS said permed or straightened hair was easier. Hope you that explanation is better.

Comparing anything to circumcision on these boards is incindiary. Surely you know that.

I read her post. And yours, too. You're the one who's not reading.
I won't go back through your post and rip it apart b/c it's not worth the time.

But I will say that it's funny you assume I have a perm. Or otherwise straighten my hair. I don't. I've been natural for the past 17 years compared to your 7 mos. But I get the fact that what works for me doesn't necessarily work for someone else.

Originally Posted by futurmama8

I agree Williamsmama, We got very off track from the point of this thread. Maybe somone else can start a thread about it if it matters to anyone. We got totally off topic I apologize.

Um, yeah.

[WC_hapamama]

I'm multiracial... Dad is of French, British, Scots and Dutch ancestry, and Mom is Japanese (her mother and paternal grandparents are immigrants).

When I was applying for state colleges, I listed my race as white, because there were a few schools where calling myself Asian was not going to be a benefit.

[futurmama8]

Originally Posted by Barbamama

Comparing anything to circumcision on these boards is incindiary. Surely you know that.

I read her post. And yours, too. You're the one who's not reading.
I won't go back through your post and rip it apart b/c it's not worth the time.

But I will say that it's funny you assume I have a perm. Or otherwise straighten my hair. I don't. I've been natural for the past 17 years compared to your 7 mos. But I get the fact that what works for me doesn't necessarily work for someone else.




Um, yeah.

When I said "you" in my post I wasn't specifically talking about you, maybe I should've wrote "a person" or something because I don't know even know what you look like so I wouldn't assume. I don't think its a need to rip anything apart, we are on here to talk and have conversations and I am sorry you didn't like my comparison and I also apologize if it offended you as that was not my intent. I also get the fact that everyone doesn't like the same things guess you misunderstood me. That whole topic is frivilous and I am not going to harp on it anymore. so Umm yeah

[Draupadi]

Originally Posted by WC_hapamama

I'm multiracial... Dad is of French, British, Scots and Dutch ancestry, and Mom is Japanese (her mother and paternal grandparents are immigrants).

When I was applying for state colleges, I listed my race as white, because there were a few schools where calling myself Asian was not going to be a benefit.

Curious. How so?
I genuinely am not sure I get it...

[LoMaH]

Originally Posted by Missy

I was actually coming back earlier to respond to you that the people I see most offended by White and Black are those individuals who believe that race is imaginary, a social construct that won't exist if we refuse to acknowledge it. Which, to me, is bull. Like someone saying that you can find racism anywhere if you look hard enough. Most of us don't have to look for racism, and the implication--that, yes, I've even seen in this forum--that people have to look for racism is offensive. So, please, don't use those descriptives in quotes, because it caters to that thought process and implies that racism is not significant and is somehow the creation of those most impacted.

Missy, thanks for the explanation. Will do.
I actually wasn't aware that the reason was to deny the existence of racism. I had assumed it had something to do with a negative personal experience. Although, I responded to the one poster that I disagreed that people didn't see race or have a need to identify with one, I fell for misusing race w/o understanding why 1st.

[WC_hapamama]

Originally Posted by WilliamsMama

Curious. How so?
I genuinely am not sure I get it...

I was applying for college, in California, before they repealed affirmative action. Using the Asian label would have actually worked against me when applying to certain schools that had a high number of Asian applicants.

[peaceful_mama]

to comment on many directions...

I check both black and white if I can. "other' if I can't. "black" if there is no "other" because, well, they look it. (honestly, they look biracial...like somebody else said, DH and I make "cappucino babies" )

and on the hair....I'm about to go post something about dd's hair. LOL I have NO experience in this dept. And *I* for one, LOVE her hair. I don't want to do anything unnatural to it, I just have to learn what I can do with what she's got

I have been looking forward to her hair since the day she was born . I have no clue how to braid her hair, as my only experience is with my own, which is straight-as-straight can be long "white" hair (not meant to offend anybody just that's what it is, not a curl or a wave in sight.)

off to post a new post rather than de-rail.

[misswerewolf]

Originally Posted by VanessaS

Should I just leave it blank, check both, or what?

What do you do?

I check all that apply, even if the instructions say to check ONLY one.

[Susuwatari]

I haven't been in a posiion where I've had to check any boxes in forms, but if I ever come accross one that doesn't have an other box, I think I'll just not check any boxes and write down an explanation. I'd have to because if I checked Irish they'd think I was lying when they see his name.