CDC's annual conference

[amnesiac]

If you're going to be in Dallas & want to see what they're talking about, their conference starts March 30th.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/events/nic/default.htm

[Scattershoot]

I found this interesting while reading through the agenda for the conference. It's from one of the sessions regarding two on-line parenting groups based in San Diego. I'm not sure if it specifically tried to target non-vaccinators, but the numbers are still interesting.

Results:
Over half of the respondents (53.7%, n=125) reported a fully vaccinated youngest child. The remaining under-vaccinating respondents reported a selectively vaccinated (32.6%, n=76) or completely non-vaccinated (13.7%, n=32) youngest child

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Of course the session is set up to find ways to better "educate" parents on the necessity of vaccination, but 13% not vaccinating. That's pretty high. Like the homeschool numbers that I believe are ignored or perhaps intentionally underreported, I've wondered if the same is true for non-vaccination. Why allow these crazy people, who don't love their children, to think they may be normal? The main reason I wonder about this, is the obvious massive onslaught of vaccination propaganda all over the place now.

[amnesiac]

Would be interesting to hear what they're thinking about it too.

[mamakay]

I don't think I've ever seen the "vax-refusal psychologists" talk about selective vaxers before. Interesting. They're looking for ways to improve "risk communication" (the new pc word for propaganda) to them...but...uuh...that will be quite the undertaking, I think.

[runes]

Anyone who is interested in vaccines and immunization policy absolutely MUST take a look at the topics on the agenda. On many of them, you can click through to see the abstracts that are associated with the sessions.

This is the cutting edge of vax policy, science and research. Note the preponderance of soft sociological/economic/behavioral aspects of vaccines as compared to actual vaccine SAFETY and EFFICACY.

[mamakay]

Originally Posted by kidspiration

Anyone who is interested in vaccines and immunization policy absolutely MUST take a look at the topics on the agenda. On many of them, you can click through to see the abstracts that are associated with the sessions.

This is the cutting edge of vax policy, science and research. Note the preponderance of soft sociological/economic/behavioral aspects of vaccines as compared to actual vaccine SAFETY and EFFICACY.

This is the only political area where it's generally assumed to be a given that no debate or dissent is reasonable, isn't it?
Can you imagine if the DOD very openly spent most of their time analyzing ways of getting Americans to accept wiretappings, for example?
My god.

[runes]

Some of this stuff is unbelievable.

Using “Viral” Video Dissemination to Reach Parents with Immunization Messages: Welcome to Parenthood

Utilizing the “Stages of Change” transtheoretical model, as well as risk communication theories, “Welcome to Parenthood” acknowledges that current risk perception about infant immunization may focus more upon the perceived side effects of shots, rather than an actual understanding of the risk of disease. In addition, many parents are not at the action or maintenance stage of making this health decision, but are perhaps in the pre-contemplation or contemplation phase.

Side effects of vaccines are perceived, but disease risk is for real?

[runes]

Vaccine Education Class for Those Seeking Exemption

Background:
Studies have shown ever increasing hesitancy of clients to immunize. In a desire to empower clients to make informed, responsible decision regarding their own or their child's vaccination status & to create a safe & healthy population the Southern Nevada Health District (SNHD) implemented a vaccine education class.

Project Description:
SNHD identified key factors underlying the increased hesitancy to vaccinate. Clients will meet with a nurse to discuss their concerns. If they declined immunization due to religious beliefs they are given the number to call to sign up for the class. Clients are referred to the class from the health card process, school system, or SNHD clinics. Classes are given biweekly by a registered nurse. Information on all vaccines is reviewed & opportunities are given for questions. At the conclusion, the client is given the opportunity to receive the vaccine or sign a declination. If the adult signs the declination they go to the Chief Health Officer & receive an exemption. Medical exemptions require a letter from MD & will be directly referred to Chief Health Officer. This class enables clients to make responsible & informed decisions regarding immunizations. The goal is to reduce vaccine hesitancy & immunization exemptions.

Results/Lessons Learned:
Having to take the class will detour clients from seeking exemption. Standardization of exemption process helped the staff of SNHD have an understanding of reasons for vaccine hesitancy. Clients will listen to the media first making it hard to trust the medical community. Peer pressure will keep clients from receiving vaccine.

WHAT????

[mamakay]

But...BUT...all they want is to "empower clients to make informed, responsible decision"!

Hahaha...

[runes]

Originally Posted by mamakay

But...BUT...all they want is to "empower clients to make informed, responsible decision"!

Hahaha...

According to them, a client is empowered to make an informed, responsible decision only IF THEY END UP VACCINATING.

If not, then they are uninformed and irresponsible.

[Deborah]

great comments on the CDC!

We love those folks, don't we. I wonder if they are still keeping an eye on this discussion forum to find out what non-vaxers think? Probably. They seem to have caught on to the difference between no vaxes, selective vaxes...but have they figured out about delayed vaxes? Subtle distinctions don't seem to be their strength.

And of course wiretapping is good. How could anyone question government eavesdropping, vaccines or apple pie? Motherhood...prestige is down, I'm afraid. Mothers are only good if they are obedient to authority.

[runes]

Originally Posted by Deborah

Mothers are only good if they are obedient to authority.

Yeah, they've got that one covered.

Featured Session — Marketing to Moms as the Chief Household Health Officer

Unfortunately, the text/abstract is not available at this time, but I'd love to be a fly on the wall on that one.

[runes]

Originally Posted by Deborah

They seem to have caught on to the difference between no vaxes, selective vaxes...but have they figured out about delayed vaxes? Subtle distinctions don't seem to be their strength.
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By none other than...Paul Offit:

Delay, Separating, or Withholding Vaccination: What's a Pediatrician to Do

[Deborah]

And his answer?

I'm guessing it will be:

Lies, bigger lies and the biggest lies of all. How to manipulate your audience and cover up conflicts of interest.

[mamakay]

Haha...I just realised what we call "selective vaccination", they call "selective nonvaccination:

Presenters in this workshop will discuss attitudes of parents of selectively nonvaccinated children, characteristics of schools with high exemption rates, using the data to inform campaigns and outbreak response, and educating persons seeking exemptions.

[runes]

Originally Posted by mamakay

Haha...I just realised what we call "selective vaccination", they call "selective nonvaccination:

[amnesiac]

So if you were able to attend, which sessions would you most like to hear & why?