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post #21 of 499
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Originally Posted by twilight girl View Post
By the way, question for the veterans: 18 mo. old DS still nurses, and still wakes frequently during the night. So, my temp time is pretty erratic, given that sometimes I'm tossing and turning just before temp taking time. As long as there appears to be a separation of low temps and later high temps, combined with other signs, can I rely on this?
Generally speaking, yes, as long as you can see a clear thermal shift you should be good to go, and you've got the other signs to back you up. If you're having really erratic sleep I'd be very vigilent, myself.

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Originally Posted by Virginia884 View Post
Question- how precise do you have to be with times and temps? Does a 30 min time difference change a lot on your chart? Is this a 'wait and see for yourself' thing?


30 mins makes no difference for me personally. i generally go within an hour. you can also always adjust your temps if need be. if you haven't read TCOYF yet definitely get a copy of that.

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Originally Posted by twilight girl View Post
Okay, I think I'm good! CD14 and no temp spike yet, so I think the swim team from CD7 is all dead! Temp should rise tomorrow, and I can look forward to the countdown to the other side

What's generally accepted as safe after a sustained temp rise? 3dpo? 4dpo? 5?
TCOYF says 3 days after a sustained thermal shift and 4 days past your peak day.

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Originally Posted by MovingMomma View Post
Anyone have a huge variance in CM quality & quantity from one cycle to the next?
i do...every cycle is just different i think. last cycle i had only 2 days of fertile CM, unheard of for me.

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CD 23 for me, 10DPO
post #22 of 499
Subbing and getting closer to ovulating! Cd 20 here!
post #23 of 499
good morning everyone!

Hmmm, confusion. CD15, no temp rise, and dry CD14 (scantest of scant ewcm on tp, very very scant, but stretchy) and dry this a.m.

I'm always a 28/29 dayer, and usually O on CD14.

Is it possible, if I've gotten say a good 5 hours sleep before temping, that it would bring my temps lower? Only over the last couple of days I think the baby has let me sleep a fair stretch. So, there was a temp spike one day (temp time was off though), then back down, but is it possible it's because I'm sleeping more consecutive hours before temping?

Ugh, can't wait for the V!!
post #24 of 499
MarineWife - will you please move me to the graduates. I'm not charting to avoid at the moment. Thanks!
post #25 of 499
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
Pre-O, it should start out low, firm and closed and change to a more fertile position as you get closer to O. It responds to estrogen the same way that CF does. So, as your CF goes from dry to sticky to wet to ew, your CP should go from LFC to MMM to HSO. It should be HSO right before and at O. After O it should move back to LFC again pretty quickly. It might become a little more HSO again right before AF (if you check then) and stay that way during AF.
Cool, I've been looking for info on the position. I swear, when I check mine at 9 am (which is what I have been doing), it is the same, everytime. Very high (barely reachable). I think I'm going to start checking it throughout the day and seeing how/when it changes. The closed/open and texture make sense to me, but I wasn't sure on position.

Still no real sign of any CM, not any like I used to have I'm generally wetter the past few days, but nothing stretchy like when I used to chart years ago. Ah well. My temp did go up a bit today, so maybe there will be more of the same? Who knows, it's anyone's guess at this point.
post #26 of 499

Weird cycle?

I don't understand what's going on with my chart at all...

I even POAS and that's negative (phew) but... what the heck? Maybe I didn't O? I guess time will tell. I'm not feeling any crampiness at all though, which I would expect if AF was coming today. I know this is only my 4th cycle charting but my LP has always been 10 or 11 days.
post #27 of 499
I think I'm in the clear tonight. I'm a little concerned b/c my CM has been so scanty & b/c I was a little sick the last few days. Argh! Any thoughts?
post #28 of 499
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Originally Posted by MovingMomma View Post
I think I'm in the clear tonight. I'm a little concerned b/c my CM has been so scanty & b/c I was a little sick the last few days. Argh! Any thoughts?
Looks good, HOWEVER, I noticed this is only the second post m/c cycle for you .

My m/c before DS started in Aug, and I did not have a normal cycle until November, and conceived DS in that Nov. cycle. My cycles between were all over the place.

Just something to keep in mind.
post #29 of 499
Marinewife - I never heard back from FF about your computer issues. I hope you got it figured out. So sorry it took my so long to respond

Well ladies, I got my IUD today. I am still going to chart my temp just so I know when AF is due but I won't be CTA. I will pop in now and again but probably won't remain active in the thread anymore.

Good luck to all of you!
post #30 of 499
ok, weirdness going on. the last three days i've woken up feeling very hot. i've also felt instantly awake...like i wasn't sleeping deeply. the fiance has been literally jumping out of bed the last three days though (he's been up late and therefore not waking up before his alarm like he usually does), and it's always jarred me awake, so that could be why.

anyway, two days ago i woke up (at the normal time) feeling really hot and with a temp of 36.77, not unheard of for a post-O temp, but high for this particular cycle. it's getting warmer here and i'm sleeping under a huge duvet so i figured that might be why.

yesterday i woke up feeling hot again with a temp of 36.74, again, high for this cycle. i decided to take off the duvet and not move for ten minutes and take my temp again. it had dropped to 36.64...which is a more normal post-O temp. that's a huge drop for ten minutes, after being awake, and moving. i put that one on my chart.

today i woke up feeling hot again with temp a of 36.72.

why are my temps going up? i should be getting AF between today and friday. this isn't the first time this has happened, and going back to old charts, i only have a pre-AF temp drop about 50ish% of the time. even sitting here right now i feel really warm.

i DTD on CD 8, 9, and 10, all with condoms, start to finish. i O'd on CD 13. kinda fooled around on CD 12 night/CD13 morning, but no DTD and i was very careful about not getting any semen near me since i knew i was going to O.

the last few days i've been having typical AF is coming mild cramps but no spotting (which, to be fair, i've only had on about 50% of past charts as well) and i've been a bit irritable, but i'm a little concerned b/c an oops right now would be a disaster.

anyway, i just needed to talk this out. anyone have any genius ideas or want to reassure me?
post #31 of 499
Well, we DTD, but my temp was down a bit this am so I'm still a little concerned. :

twilight girl: Thank you.

akaisha: You could do a HPT if you're really concerned, but I think your chart looks very similar to your previous ones (esp. look at your 10/25 chart).
post #32 of 499
movingmama: you're right it does look like that one! i really shouldn't be such an obsessive chart analyzer

i'm a little paranoid this month because i really really really can't be pg right now, that would be baaaad news.

i looked at your chart...at least it's not down by a huge amount. give it a day or two to come back up, my temp does that some times, dips down a bit not too long after O. it looks like your ferile CM is gone so i'd hedge my bets and say you O'd when FF thinks you did.
post #33 of 499
Thread Starter 
Canid ~ Thanks for trying for me. I got it worked out and it's working for now.

Shannon ~ I think you're still fine. You had 3 consecutive high temps and your cf has appeared to have dried up plus your temp for today wasn't too low.

Laggie ~ I think it's very possible that you haven't actually Oed yet.

Teenytoona ~ I always squat to check my cervix because I can't reach it otherwise, even when it's low.

Nothing going on here. AF just left and I've been sick (again ) and DH is in the field.
post #34 of 499
14 DPO today? If I O'd... if I didn't, though, shouldn't I have seen fertile CM again? There's been nothing but dry/sticky since day 20.

Or could my body just have decided not to bother trying to ovulate any more this cycle?

Here I thought this charting thing was going to be so simple!

post #35 of 499
Do you think it's possible I O'd early, like CD 11 or 12? I looked back at old charts, and my post O temps are in this same range as my temps are now. And they were ovulatory charts, because my post O temps when I got pg with DS, were between 36.2 and 36.8 C.

I'm still waiting for a temp rise, but my CM has all but dried up, and ... : I realize it's hard to tell since I didn't start temping until CD10, but I've never O'd before CD14 before ... I thought CD10 would be plenty of time to see the temp shift.

I'm just so :yawning: all the time, so I don't temp during AF, and the early days of my cycle.
post #36 of 499
Thread Starter 
Laggie ~ Here's my thinking on your situation. Your lp shouldn't vary more than 2 days and only in one direction. For example, if your lp is usually 11 days but has been as short as 10 days and as long as 12 days, it shouldn't sometimes be 14 days. I would expect a + hpt by 14dpo, although some women say they didn't get one until much later. It is possible that you Oed and have a cyst that's hanging around. If so, it should resolve itself eventually but it may take a few weeks. If it's not that and you don't get a + hpt soon, I'd say you didn't O. Sometimes the body will gear up to O and then not for whatever reason. It may try again or may not. There's no way to know.

twilight girl ~ It's not usually a good idea to compare temps from different cycles to try to determine things. Although it's normal to have temps in the same range they can be different for various reasons. That's why it's important to just look for the thermal shift using current temps. If you usually O by cd14, you should start temping by cd9 at the latest so you can get at least 6 temps down. I don't usually temp during AF, either, but I have long cycles with an average O of somewhere between cd26 and cd30.
post #37 of 499
MarineWife,

thanks for your reply. Guess I'll just wait and see ... Guess we'll take things safe until something becomes obvious!!

thanks again
post #38 of 499
super light almost spotting going on, phew. :
post #39 of 499
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by twilight girl View Post
MarineWife,

thanks for your reply. Guess I'll just wait and see ... Guess we'll take things safe until something becomes obvious!!

thanks again
I checked your chart after I posted. Why don't you start temping right after AF? That should give you plenty of time to see an early shift, if there is one.
post #40 of 499
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
I checked your chart after I posted. Why don't you start temping right after AF? That should give you plenty of time to see an early shift, if there is one.
you're right I should ... I've on;y had my cycle back since November, and temping since last month. My sleep patterns are so erratic right now, I wasn't sure if temping would even work. Plus, I've had AF since 6th grade, and I can probably count on one hand the times my cycle wasn't 28 days! Just didn't think I'd need to temp early ...

maybe I'm reaching "a certain age" and maybe things will start to wobble now, I don't know. But, obviously I need to start temping earlier in my cycle

thanks
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