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post #41 of 499
Temp dropped this morning and AF came this afternoon. This charting stuff is very interesting! Even DH is taking an interest.
post #42 of 499
CD 24 here, and that's all there is to report. Just thought I'd check in!
post #43 of 499
Laggie - I'm studying your chart. The temp jump really does make me think you O'd but it doesn't really coincide with your CF. However, when I got pregnant with DS it was from intercourse on the dry days after a wet day when I somehow O'd three days after one wet day. Wow did that make any sense? Maybe I just wasn't seeing the CF but anyway I guess what I'm trying to say is going by temps I think you are pregnant, and going by CF you didn't even ovulate. I tend to trust temps but you know your own chart better so you probably know which is more reliable. In any case I would continue to temp and maybe take another HPT and hope things get cleared up soon and you get the right answer!

I'm not sure if any of the above made sense and I just realized it's way past my bedtime, lol. Off I go.
post #44 of 499
CD22 and I'm pretty sure I ovulated yesterday. Had my temp spike this AM to almost confirm my guess. Now only two days left to confirm! I have been really cold the last couple of days... so I was blown away by a 98.0 temp this AM!

Alright ladies! Another successful CTA cycle is coming to an end! :
post #45 of 499
DucetteMama! What an amazing feeling! Lucky you.

I've decided that I just need to check CP later in the day. It's always in the same spot in the morning, high high high. I've checked it here and there at different times and it's in different places. So how does one pick a check time?

Really I'm seeing no CM, but feeling generally wetter and feeling like there's a little change/movement going on, internally. Is it possible that birthing can make CM change so dramatically?

Nothing at all occurring in the temps department. I don't know how my breastfeeding and squirming all night long affects that. Most nights, DD nurses sometime between 2 and 4. Since I get up at 4:35, there's no such thing as the 3 hours of sleep before wake up. But I reckon that would make someone's temp higher, not lower. And my temps are low low low. Ah well. Moving along to cycle day 22, I hate this limbo land because it always means using protection just in case, and you know, I probably don't even need it. Sheeesh.
post #46 of 499
Hmm! I think I O'd yesterday. Weird. Cervix is much firmer today than it has been, and temp went up to 36.7. I threw out the temp from CD12 which was taken so much later than usual, that it was probably high because of that. Throwing out that temp makes it look more like O was yesterday. But who can explain all that early fertile CM?!?

And I've been dry, dry, dry ever since. So, this is really making the "sympto" portion of the sympto-thermal very challenging :

Teeny--> I'm really not 100% convinced of this whole CP thing. I mean, if it moves around in any given day, how does one decide which position to read? The texture and the openness I can understand because they seem to change over the cycle, but not throughout the day ... but the position ... highly unreliable if you ask me!
post #47 of 499
CP confuses me (and i hate having pressure on my cervix...i'm so screwed when i get pg ) so i don't do it.

my temp went back into normal post-O range today, and didn't feel insanely hot when i got up this morning, yay. i'm 13DPO right now with a little bit of not quite spotting so i except AF today or tomorrow, yay for maybe getting lucky with a 13 day LP! almost makes up for the CD13 O...almost,
post #48 of 499
So. AF started last night, on day 34 which was 14 days after the day when I *thought* I O'd. :

I'm not sure whether to consider that cycle anovulatory, or to think it was a weirdly long LP. I guess that the first 5 days rule doesn't apply this cycle, if I can't be sure what happened. Is that right?

I really have to buy a copy of TCOYF - I have read it but it was from the library.

My advice on the CP - once you feel what it's like when you're fertile, it will make more sense. I think the way it gets kind of soft and squishy feeling is more relevant than the position. However (and maybe this is TMI) the main reason that I know it's in a higher position is that certain sex positions are less likely to hurt. The position always seems about the same to me when I check it in the shower too.
post #49 of 499
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Originally Posted by Laggie View Post
So. AF started last night, on day 34 which was 14 days after the day when I *thought* I O'd. :

I'm not sure whether to consider that cycle anovulatory, or to think it was a weirdly long LP. I guess that the first 5 days rule doesn't apply this cycle, if I can't be sure what happened. Is that right?
Can we see your other charts that have you convinced your lp is usually shorter? Is there anything that happened that could've caused you to have unusually short lps for a few cycles? For example, my lp is always shorter than normal with my first few PP cycles.
post #50 of 499
Is there a way to make FF show earlier charts? I can probably screenshot them to flickr or something...

I found it... link in my sig should now show Dec. and Jan (I can only show two charts at a time) - although I think that, looking at January, it's possible that my actual O day was a couple of days earlier than where FF put it. So maybe my LP is longer than I thought?

It was definitely 10 days in December though. I thought it wasn't possible for LP to vary that much? November was definitely 10 days too although I can't show that one. That was my first month charting but it's a super obvious shift.
post #51 of 499
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Originally Posted by Teenytoona View Post
I've checked it here and there at different times and it's in different places. So how does one pick a check time?
TAoNFP says to check CP in the evening b/c the cervix typically starts out higher & ends up lower in the course of each day...just due to gravity and relaxing muscles. I usually check mine as I'm getting ready for bed: brush teeth, wash face, check cervix. That way I can wash my hands as/after I wash my face & don't have to do a special pre-check hand wash.
post #52 of 499
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Is there a way to make FF show earlier charts?
Go to Sharing->Home Page Setup & then near the bottom of the page you'll see a section for published charts. You'll see two boxes there, one with selected charts, and the other with available charts. Add charts by selecting an available chart & clicking the add chart button.

Oh, I just looked & see you've already got 2 up. You can only put up more than 2 w/a paid subscription.
post #53 of 499
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Originally Posted by MovingMomma View Post
Go to Sharing->Home Page Setup & then near the bottom of the page you'll see a section for published charts. You'll see two boxes there, one with selected charts, and the other with available charts. Add charts by selecting an available chart & clicking the add chart button.

Oh, I just looked & see you've already got 2 up. You can only put up more than 2 w/a paid subscription.
OMG! Now I can share my FF chart whoop whoop! For some reason, I kept trying to figure it out, but missed the "sharing" part. er ummm ok, I got it!

Thanks for the discussion on CP. I think I will switch to evening. I can't seem to do it right before bed, but will try tonight.
post #54 of 499
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Laggie ~ You're right that your O day on your January chart could be wrong because of those missing temps. It could've occurred anytime from cd15-18. If you Oed on cd15, your lp was 14 days long. I don't think your O day on your December chart is 100% certain, either. FF is also not sure, hence the dotted crosshairs. On that chart, based solely on temps, you could've O as early as cd11. That would make your lp for that cycle 15 or 16 days, right? I'm a little confused by that chart because it ends on 12/31 but you don't have AF starting on the next chart until 01/02. Anyway, my point is that your O days aren't 100% clear so you can't be certain of how long your lp actually is yet. Maybe after a few more charted cycles it'll be more clear. Can you show us your November chart now? I love analyzing charts.
post #55 of 499
checking in! CD14 today...i think i'm close to o but we'll see!
post #56 of 499
CD 27, 14DPO. temp dropped again today. if i don't get AF today, this is will officially be my longest LP since starting to chart...we'll see. maybe my body is switching to Oing earlier and having longer LPs... that'd be nice.

actually, can you guys look at my chart? i'm starting to wonder if i actually O'd on CD16; i know CM doesn't line up with that though. thoughts?
post #57 of 499
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actually, can you guys look at my chart? i'm starting to wonder if i actually O'd on CD16; i know CM doesn't line up with that though. thoughts?
I've been wondering how accurate your O day is. I can't really see any day that looks much better, though. I think cd16 is a possibility if you ROT the two temps before that.
post #58 of 499
akaisha--> I think I'd probably agree with FF for your O date.

I think I can safely say I have O'd, and I think it looks like CD16 was the day. Although my CM had dried up completely days before, it did go from soft and mushy to firm on CD17, and a temp spike to confirm. So, I think one more day of high temp and we can say I'm in the clear
post #59 of 499
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
I've been wondering how accurate your O day is. I can't really see any day that looks much better, though. I think cd16 is a possibility if you ROT the two temps before that.
yeah, exactly. i've been wondering if i was gearing up to O on CD13 and didn't...

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akaisha--> I think I'd probably agree with FF for your O date.
i do too, initially. but if that's the case i should have AF by now and since i haven't had any unprotected sex this cycle...

i mean condoms do fail, but nothing broke, so i don't even know how that's possible.

i was soooo careful this cycle because i'm temporarily on some meds that i absolutely cannot be pg on, #$%&*%$%. everything about this cycle is screwy. i wish i didn't DTD at all.

that's it, i'm POAS tomorrow morning.
post #60 of 499
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Originally Posted by akaisha View Post

everything about this cycle is screwy.
But, your lp is still within the range of normal, even if AF doesn't show until tomorrow. Not necessarily normal for your lp, but still within normal range, yes?

looks like there was a temp drop, so maybe tomorrow you'll have af ... :
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