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post #1 of 30
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Dr Brown of Baby 411 fame

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Dr. Brown is from Austin Texas, the home of Whole Foods, so she sees this type of parent all the time. She wonders why it is that these parents feel comfortable listening to advice on lotions and herbs from the teens who work at Whole Foods, but they feel skeptical of professionals with degrees in medicine and science.
Yeah, that's me...I shop at whole foods therefore I'm a middle-class pseudo-intellectual sheep.

baaaa
post #2 of 30
I am in Canada so all I know of Whole Foods is from Top Chef. Looks nice though.... lol.

And of course, lotions and vaccines are the same!

What I did learn from that article is that Oprah won't let the Every Child By Two camp on her show. I didn't realize that.... go Oprah!
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What I did learn from that article is that Oprah won't let the Every Child By Two camp on her show. I didn't realize that.... go Oprah!
yeah that was cool!
post #4 of 30
I think that also insults the people who work at Whole Foods! Where we are, they aren't teens, but adults--adults who've learned all about the lotions, vitamins, etc. I don't ask them for medical advice--but, they do know their products. We don't know what kind of degrees they have or why they've chosen to work at Whole Foods--or have to work at Whole Foods. I would definitely trust their opinion on a lotion for DS's eczema (which may well have been caused by the vaccines he had!) or for a good probiotic (when the kids have been on abx!)

Anyway, the majority of people I know who shop at Whole Foods give every vaccination--even if they are getting occasional advice from the Whole Body department. I think they need to find another generalization for the anti-vaccine or selective-vaccine types...oh yeah, there really isn't one.
post #5 of 30
Ha...i love Whole foods....shop there all the time!!!

I don't ask advice from those that work there about anything medical....lotions maybe. Then again i have eyes and can read ingredient labels myself.
post #6 of 30
I'll bet that my MD shops at Whole Foods, and guess what......he's an MD that doesn't vax his kids and is an advocate for not vaxing.
post #7 of 30
The manager of the suppliment dep. at my local wholefoods is a grown man and seems to know his stuff about vitamins ect. But I'm too poor to shop at Whole foods very often so I guess this article isn't about me.

I bet most of the people who shop at my local whole foods vaccinate on schedule with little question.
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I wonder if that author has ever asked someone at WF for advice?

a) They actually know the answer to my questions if I ask about the ingredients of their products

b) They know the benefits and dangers of those ingredients

c) If they don't know the answer, they aren't afraid to say so and will get someone who does

d) I don't risk being thrown out of the store if I decide not to take their advice
post #9 of 30
Hey, I was one of those Whole Foods body care people! I'll tell ya why I trust my own advice over that of a doctor: I am not in the pocket of Big Pharma, nor do I have an agenda to push. Whole Foods folks do not make commission on what they sell, and there is not huge pressure to make sure people buy stuff. I read every book I could get my hands on that was about natural living, vitamins, herbs or whatnot and also as many mainstream medical articles that treated the same.: I worked there because I liked to help people.

Man! Why do so many doctors insist we worship at their altar? Learning is learning.

ETA: Besides, how many doctors actually know anything about lotions and herbs? Or nutrition for that matter? Or, or, or... I've had itchy legs since being pregnant and when I told my CNM they wanted to write me a prescription for steroid cream...no thanks I'm treating it just fine with coconut oil and tea tree...I just wanted to let you know what was going on. Steroid cream...yuuck.
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d) I don't risk being thrown out of the store if I decide not to take their advice
post #11 of 30
Methinks they are getting desperate to shove the genie back into the lotion bottle or vaccine vial or wherever this darn spirit of questioning authority came from.
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Methinks they are getting desperate to shove the genie back into the lotion bottle or vaccine vial or wherever this darn spirit of questioning authority came from.
post #13 of 30
That's ridiculous. The article/interview is in a tone that is unprofessional (I thought she was a doctor, someone who went to college and med school), condescending and downright rude. So we are all those upper class rich bored housewivies who have a Wholefoods-hobby.
That also implies that this doctor believes an organic diet is over the top and totally unnecessary. She prolly believes HFCS and sodas are fine on a regular basis for kiddos too.
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post #15 of 30
That's funny! I've always found the workers at Whole Foods (and Henry's) to be quite knowledgeable. Also, a lotion is topical, unlike a vaccine, which is injected into the bloodstream, but hey, totally the same right? LOL.

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That's ridiculous. The article/interview is in a tone that is unprofessional (I thought she was a doctor, someone who went to college and med school), condescending and downright rude. So we are all those upper class rich bored housewivies who have a Wholefoods-hobby.
That also implies that this doctor believes an organic diet is over the top and totally unnecessary. She prolly believes HFCS and sodas are fine on a regular basis for kiddos too.
Ha ha. Off-topic, but reminds me of a recent conversation as I dropped off my 20 month old at Grandma's.

Grandma: Can he have yogurt?

Me: Umm... I guess it's ok, as long as it doesn't have HFCS in it.

Grandma: That's a myth you know.

Me: (Silence- no point arguing with her, sigh)

Me: Anyway, please no HFCS.

I guess people really DO believe the HFCS ads financed by the CORN REFINER'S ASSOCIATION.
post #16 of 30
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Originally Posted by ammiga View Post
I wonder if that author has ever asked someone at WF for advice?

a) They actually know the answer to my questions if I ask about the ingredients of their products

b) They know the benefits and dangers of those ingredients

c) If they don't know the answer, they aren't afraid to say so and will get someone who does

d) I don't risk being thrown out of the store if I decide not to take their advice
laughup

Bingo!!
post #17 of 30
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Parents don’t need to worry about isolating side effects because vaccines are tested for side effects by themselves and as part of the recommended combination doses.
No they're not! Since when are new vaccines ever tested by themselves? Like they're going to withold DTaPs from kids in the PCV13 clinical trials. It sounds like this doc thinks "the cumulative schedule" has actually been tested for safety, too.

And they wonder why we just won't believe them.

post #18 of 30
Still reading...OMG!

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MMRV was an example of a combo shot that was tested, and it was pulled because there were multiple adverse side effects (that’s just one example).
MMRV hasn't been "pulled", first of all. The CDC has simply started not "preferring" it. Secondly, the seizure thing wasn't detected until well after it was on the general recommended schedule.
post #19 of 30
As a former employee of Whole Foods, I know they don't hire teenagers to manage any department and the people they do hire typically have years and years of experience with in their fields.

Dr Brown sounds like a big pharma shill.
post #20 of 30
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Originally Posted by ammiga View Post
I wonder if that author has ever asked someone at WF for advice?

a) They actually know the answer to my questions if I ask about the ingredients of their products

b) They know the benefits and dangers of those ingredients

c) If they don't know the answer, they aren't afraid to say so and will get someone who does

d) I don't risk being thrown out of the store if I decide not to take their advice
WSS. Too bad most drs. don't fit this list.
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