"whole foods" type of parent - Page 2

[sahmama_12]

Originally Posted by mamakay

No they're not! Since when are new vaccines ever tested by themselves? Like they're going to withold DTaPs from kids in the PCV13 clinical trials. It sounds like this doc thinks "the cumulative schedule" has actually been tested for safety, too.

And they wonder why we just won't believe them.

I know it doesn't matter (at least to me) but I really do think some doctors believe this hoey. They aren't lying just misinformed but sometimes I think that's just as bad because they should educate themselves about the products they push.

[medusaatemydog]

it's funny to me after reading this article...it reminds the woman i was talking to at the dept store...she said that she wouldn't want to experiment with her sons' health and that she though natural medicine was risky....

that is so ironic...because all she is doing is letting the doctor experiment...this conversation was not only about vaccination but about cancer...she told me how her son had cancer and he wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the doctor... that is possibly another irony since too much medical intervention can increase your likely hood of getting cancer....

but this woman has probably never read or researches anything about vaccines and cancer.... she blindly follows the doctors without question, without educating herself.... <that's sad, and very uninformed about the reality and consequeces of not questioning anything...whether it be a doctor or the taxi driver that has to get you where you are going.... intellectually i think there are people out there that are incapable of evolving.... <not directed at anyone in particular.

[PaigeC]

It is scary how easily people can be convinced of something. I get this when I tell people I want to homeschool. "How will they learn to read!!!?" They forget that humans were reading LONG before the 150 year old experiment in public schooling began. They are convinced there is only one way to learn to read and only one way to be healthy.

[MountainMamaGC]

Breastfeeding provides excellent protection from HiB well into childhood. I like how doctors will drop patients for the vaccine thing but they dont drop them for the for not breastfeeding. Not breastfeeding increases the risk of infectious disease and put others at risk too. The logic behind it is FAIL. I am so sick of doctors telling us what to do. They dont provide health care, they provide sick care. If I wanna be healthy I will talk to professionals that promote health and dont deal with sick people. People that dont learn all there is about the body from MERCK textbooks.

(I dont not this patients should be dropped for either reason.)

[runes]

Originally Posted by Lydiah

Breastfeeding provides excellent protection from HiB well into childhood. I like how doctors will drop patients for the vaccine thing but they dont drop them for the for not breastfeeding. Not breastfeeding increases the risk of infectious disease and put others at risk too. The logic behind it is FAIL. I am so sick of doctors telling us what to do. They dont provide health care, they provide sick care. If I wanna be healthy I will talk to professionals that promote health and dont deal with sick people. People that dont learn all there is about the body from MERCK textbooks.

(I dont not this patients should be dropped for either reason.)

Yes, the hypocrisy is unbelievable.

There are, however, a handful of doctors scattered throughout the country who are building practices of truly HEALTHY children that are not vaccinated or vaccinated on a very selective and delayed schedule, who promote extended breastfeeding, who give excellent advice regarding nutrition (what to eat and what not to eat), and support children and families through illness not with a prescription pad, but with good advice (which includes the prudent use of antibiotics and fever reducers).

Most pediatricians think it's "normal" for children to get 8-10 colds by the time they're 2 years old, and to average 3-8 colds per year of childhood. There's something seriously wrong with accepting that as "health", while concurrently rejecting and firing parents who question and take the vaccination matter into their own hands.

[wallacesmum]

Originally Posted by sahmama_12

I know it doesn't matter (at least to me) but I really do think some doctors believe this hoey. They aren't lying just misinformed but sometimes I think that's just as bad because they should educate themselves about the products they push.

Maybe someone who actually knows what they are talking about is a good source of information. Maybe that's why parents are sometimes skeptical of pediatricians dispensing vaccine information. I think the answer is evident in the question.

[Baby_Vol]

They pulled the MMRV? I didn't know this. That is the one they tried to talk me into giving my son in 2007 and the first one I refused. RRRRR!! Yeah, but according to that women, I "don't need to worry" or "do my own study." Whatever.

Parents don’t need to worry about isolating side effects because vaccines are tested for side effects by themselves and as part of the recommended combination doses. We know the side effects of vaccine combos, so parents don’t need to “do their own study”. MMRV was an example of a combo shot that was tested, and it was pulled because there were multiple adverse side effects (that’s just one example).

[goodheartedmama]

Originally Posted by ammiga

I wonder if that author has ever asked someone at WF for advice?

a) They actually know the answer to my questions if I ask about the ingredients of their products

b) They know the benefits and dangers of those ingredients

c) If they don't know the answer, they aren't afraid to say so and will get someone who does

d) I don't risk being thrown out of the store if I decide not to take their advice

LOVE it!

[mamakah]

Originally Posted by nia82

That's ridiculous. The article/interview is in a tone that is unprofessional (I thought she was a doctor, someone who went to college and med school), condescending and downright rude. So we are all those upper class rich bored housewivies who have a Wholefoods-hobby.
That also implies that this doctor believes an organic diet is over the top and totally unnecessary. She prolly believes HFCS and sodas are fine on a regular basis for kiddos too.

Exactly! I love that "oh...your one of those who thinks eating a sweet potato is going to make you healthier than taking pills" look I get from some. A family friend serves their daughter cans of coke with her dinner (she is 2), give her candy when she is crying because she is tired, and feed her fried chicken nuggets for about 70% of her meals. Last wbv? Got a pat on the back for being such excellent parents and doing such a fantastic job. Obviously the doctor didn't ever ask about nutrition. Me? I breastfeed my now 10 month old, when I do feed him solids, it is a fruit or vegetable, no juice, no sugar, no vaccinations. I'm probably going to get booted the next time I go to the Pedi. But I am supposed to trust them because they got a degree from reading books influenced by drug companies?
Plus, I'm pretty sure that I won't lose my son to a bad lotion. I love the comparison, because picking a lotion at Whole Foods is on the same serious scale as choosing to vaccinate your child. And this person is asking why we don't value their opinions?

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by kidspiration

Most pediatricians think it's "normal" for children to get 8-10 colds by the time they're 2 years old, and to average 3-8 colds per year of childhood. There's something seriously wrong with accepting that as "health", while concurrently rejecting and firing parents who question and take the vaccination matter into their own hands.

Is that normal? Do typical kids only get 8-10 colds by the time they turn 2? You probably couldn't hear my jaw hit the floor, but whoa. I am stunned.

I had to go somewhere else to see if I could find that, I chose www.drgreene.com who agreed. I knew my son got sick more frequently than most kids, I didn't realize how much more (I think we understand the issue and have made good progress). I owe a debt of gratitude to MDC for helping me know what to do to get him through all those colds without any complications.

I know you didn't mean to, but you just turned my understanding of reality upside-down.