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Help me make sharing a nanny work

post #1 of 14
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A mommy friend of mine and I have sons born three weeks apart and will both be going back to work in August when the boys are a year old.
Licensed daycare is at least $1,000 a month in our city so we were thinking that by pooling our resources we could offer a decent wage and paid vacation to a caregiver, not have to worry about travel time (we live two blocks apart) and avoid having to scramble to find alternate care when one of the kids is sick.
Obviously we'd have to synch the boys' nap schedules and diapering, buy food and a double stroller etc. in common.
Would a nanny be interested in this scenario?
What can I do to make this work?
post #2 of 14
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Originally Posted by Megan73 View Post
A mommy friend of mine and I have sons born three weeks apart and will both be going back to work in August when the boys are a year old.
Licensed daycare is at least $1,000 a month in our city so we were thinking that by pooling our resources we could offer a decent wage and paid vacation to a caregiver, not have to worry about travel time (we live two blocks apart) and avoid having to scramble to find alternate care when one of the kids is sick.
Obviously we'd have to synch the boys' nap schedules and diapering, buy food and a double stroller etc. in common.
Would a nanny be interested in this scenario?
What can I do to make this work?

I work as a nanny. First off, I'm not sure you'd have to sync their nap schedules. Unless the nanny needs to physically sleep with them, as both a mother and a nanny, I'd prefer them to be on separate schedules - then you get some one on one time. I'm not sure why you'd have to sync diapering? I took an occasional job babysitting for my old employees when my DD was an infant/young toddler, and their youngest was still in diapers...I'd either wear my DD, or put her in the playpen momentarily while I changed their daughter. And their daughter would usually just play in the room while I was changing mine.

Double stroller is definitely a plus! As well as familiarizing your nanny with wraps and whatnot and how to get a toddler into them.

Also, whose car will be used to transport the children around? And, how will car seats be handled?

Whose house will be "home base"? Will it vary from day to day? Will the nanny be free to move between houses?

Another thing to consider, depending where you live, are family passes memberships to local points of interest. For example, in our town, we have a children's museum and a zoo - I have a family membership to the children's museum that I use to get my daughter and nanny "charge" (such an odd word to use) into. My "charge's" family has a zoo membership w/nanny pass, so, we use that to get the lot of us into there. How will you divide all of that up?

Something for you and your friend to think about...what happens if you don't need care one day or week for whatever reason? Will the both of you be taking vacation at the same time? Will the nanny get to choose when she has vacation? (a lot of families do "one week of family's choosing, one week of nanny's" whether its paid or not) If so, what is your plan for then?

Honestly, as a nanny, I can tell you that I *love* having kids close together to care for. It's a lot harder to amuse a 7 year old and a 1 year old simultaneously than it is to amuse two 12 month olds, or a 2 year old and a 3 year old.

HTH.
post #3 of 14
Yes as a nanny (former) I second what the PP says.

A few more things:

How will you work the nanny's hours if one family is running late or you have to work late. What if one of your schedule's changes and you need the nanny at different hours. If the Nanny is at House A, and parent A comes home but parent B is running an hour late, will the nanny just move or stay, etc.

Paying for food (the kids and the nanny's). How will it work. Will the host supply the food and then you switch mid year. Will you buy seperate food for the nanny and do a meal plan for her (I had one family who did this, I actually liked it, some nannys might not though). What if you want your dc to eat organic and she wants the cheapest mac & cheese for lunch 2x a week.

I agree about seeing how vacation, etc. will work for you guys and for the nanny.

Make sure the families agree about basics like TV, how many outings (how much they cost) etc.

I think it can be a great situaion, just make sure you work out the bugs before and keep open communication between both families and the nanny.
post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
What great replies! I'm glad to hear from former nannies that this isn't a crazy idea so thanks Rach and Kathee. So good to know that looking after two LOs who are close in age is a plus!
You mamas have got me started on a checklist to go over with my friend and prospective nannies.
I think we're going to alternate – one week at our place and one week at my friend's.
With diapering, I was thinking about how I CD and my friend doesn't – and whether a nanny would be willing to deal with CDs.
I hadn't thought about the nanny's food - we all brown-bag so I didn't think about making her lunch, too.
post #5 of 14
I've nannied for a year and a half for 3 families, so I have four 3-year-olds(including my little one). It's awesome! The kids and I have so much fun.
The biggest issue to sort out beforehand, in my experience, is to figure out who will pay when one child doesn't need care due to illness/vacation/etc. This has come up several times with the moms I work for, and, although I have nothing to do with it, it's been a tricky issue for them to figure out.
post #6 of 14
nanny shares are very common here, at least as common as 1:1 care. It doesn't strike me as a hard thing to find at all, and since you already have a share partner in mind with a similar aged child, a house nearby, and apparently the same work schedule, I think you've really got it almost ready to go - just add the nanny!
post #7 of 14
If you are looking for one that is not a landed immigrant or citizen (ie., in Canada on the live in caregiver programme), you should know that the nanny is NOT allowed work for more than the employer listed on her visa, and she could get in huge trouble (up to and including deportation) for doing so.
post #8 of 14
We did a nanny share, worked great! We paid her a salary, 2 weeks off (one at xmas and one she could choose), and a bus pass. If one of the families was away on holiday at other times they still had to pay their share (just like they would at a daycare).

We always made sure that one of the 4 parents was back before 5 each night - usually a parent from each family was back before 5 but we always covered off so the nanny didn't have to work overtime, it seemed best this way.

We had a common fund for trips, etc, or the kids food if any was needed. Our nanny preferred to bring her own food so that wasn't an issue. We didn't do anything about sharing the food bill, wherever the kids were that's who would foot the bill (not that it's that much for most toddlers). The host family gets the benefit of not having to get their kids out of their pjs in the morning, so it seemed like a fair trade.

The most important thing is that you see eye to eye on parenting issues - discipline, health, and nutrition, and activities (including tv or no) that sort of thing.

I see you're in Canada, you'll need to set yourself up as a domestic employer with the gvt in order to remit payroll taxes, and also make sure you sign up with worker's compensation in your province, in case your nanny is injured while at work. (this scenario happened to a friend of mine and it was quite an ordeal).


I hope you find someone great!
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks, mamas! Once again MDC is my go-to place for all things.
Aquamam, if you have a sec could you tell me how to set myself up as a domestic employer? Is that a federal or provincial responsibility?
post #10 of 14
It's federal (canada revenue agency) - basically you just need to apply for a business number

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/bsnss/tp.../menu-eng.html

You need one with a payroll number, b/c you'll have an employee. I think there should be links there for what you need - you can do it all online. You can apply for a worker's comp number after your "business" is set up. Worker's comp is provincially managed.
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Aquamam.
post #12 of 14
We did this for two years, and it was a great arrangement. You've gotten great advice, I would just add:

We gave our nanny 3 weeks off, paid, and 5 sick days per year. We were paying her well, but not super well, and this was a benefit we could do to sweeten the job. It means you need to arrange ahead of time when exactly the nanny will have off (vacation, national holidays, etc), and what to do if she goes over her sick time (in our case, making up hours).

Make sure you're on the same page re discipline, and check in often with the nanny and the other family along the way. When they're 1 it won't matter so much, but what happens the first time (or 8th time) one kid bites the other?

Make sure you know how long an arrangement you're committed for. We said we'd do a year, then decide whether to opt for a second year. Despite this, the first family we partnered with changed their minds a couple months in and pulled out. Lucky for us, we found another family we liked much better. It was a stressful couple of weeks, though.

Re sickness: how sick does the kid have to be before you don't send them?

Re payment: We guaranteed a certain number of hours of pay/week that we were each responsible for (for us, it was like 37). So if a kid was sick, we'd still pay the nanny up to that number of hours. Then we figured out week-by-week who used which hours. We paid a joint, higher rate for time when the nanny had both kids (the 37 minimum and whatever other joint hours we used), and a slightly lower rate when she only had 1 kid (eg, one of us wanted an extra hour of work that day). We also paid overtime over 40 hours/week. Our nanny had keys to both places, so, for instance, she could walk child #2 back from child #1's house if child #2 was staying later that day. I HIGHLY recommend using an Excel spreadsheet to track hours etc.

Re location and food: we switched weeks back and forth, which worked out well. With the first family, we said the family hosting would provide food for the kids and nanny that week, which was awesome. With the second, our kids had different allergies, so we ended up sending lunch for the kids (not nearly as convenient). If you end up feeding each other's kids, you should make sure you're on the same page about what they're eating.

Re money: we each provided the nanny with some petty cash (to buy the occasional bagel with the kids), and she let us know when she needed more. It was only an occasional thing.

Also a double stroller is nice, but so is putting one kid on your back and strolling the other. That's what our nanny preferred, since it was easier to get around on city streets.
post #13 of 14
My friend and I share a nanny. This is her 2nd year with us. She is a personal friend so that adds another element to everything! She takes the LO's out on outtings, playdates, etc. She works for us for 3 days/week. It's been nice having her. I would recommend double carseats if she will be driving the LO's and also make sure she is cp-certified.
post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for even more great advice!
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