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post #141 of 213
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have you seen the chocolate bean cake? several illegal ingredients, but you seem pretty creative. my understanding is navy beans are legal, so i think they would work instead of black beans. the cake really was delicious...
post #142 of 213
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have you seen the chocolate bean cake? several illegal ingredients, but you seem pretty creative. my understanding is navy beans are legal, so i think they would work instead of black beans. the cake really was delicious...
Thank you for the idea! Unfortunately, we haven't had good luck with legumes, yet, either. And the children all seem to be allergic to chocolate. I should also add, while I'm at it, that they also don't seem to do well with berries, or commercial fruit juice. (At this point you may visualize me throwing my hands up in despair. )

I know that next year will be much easier, though.
post #143 of 213
Hey mamas!
I am at 3.5 months now and doing really great. I have added back everything except dairy (and gluten). It is amazing thr gut brain connection. I am good on ghee but when I started eating butter in a pinch I started having nightmares! I quit and just do coconut oil and they stoppped. WOW.

I am off soups now too that it is 100 degreees here. I am mostly eating eggs, avocado, veggies, chicken salads with evoo dressing, grilled meats, fresh fruit, nuts...I managed to stay like 99.9% GAPS even with summer travel..I did eat some steak marinated in soy sauce for example, but I am still progressing.

I am going to get back into the broth when things cool down..I have been eating my lactofermented pickles and will probably make some kraut again soon.

I hope you can find some party goodies LionTigerBear--how about stuff on skewers--I bet kids would like fruit ones....as long as they can have a skewer without hurting themselves though! You could do meat and veggie ones (like a luau theme). If you have a spiralizer you could make a cold zuccini noodle salad thing. Veggies with avocado dip. Strawberries dipped in the honey frosting or you could slice and layer the berries and frosting. That all I got for now!

Jen
post #144 of 213
Jen, so awesome that you are 3.5 months and hanging in there! We are at 2.5 months and are kind of the opposite: dairy seems to be mostly okay with us, but we are steering clear of sugars [save seasonal ones that have been picked by us or farmers in our area]. Nuts are also a challenge to most of us.

My brain is so much happier on this diet I can't believe it. Same goes for my DS. I think I will be mostly on this diet for a looooong time.

Jen, your diet sounds a lot like mine: lots of eggs, avocados and seasonal veggies. My kids LOVE the GAPS pancakes and bread [we just add more eggs and skip the nut butter] We also have discovered that chicken can feed us for many, many meals.

I have had some real dessert nostalgia. I am super duper sensitive to gluten, so I know that only horrible pain would result from "cheating" but I've had some dreams of summer pies. Maybe because it is the season when we eat sweet since in the heat our bodies crave it.
post #145 of 213
Mashenka, I've been having horrible cravings, too! For pasta, pies, cupcakes . . . when we are finally able to move onto nuts, we should be able to recreate some really yummy pies and make some kind of a cupcake thing . . . that will be fun.
post #146 of 213
I have to sub to this thread. I am reading the GAPS book. I do TF low carb.

I finally realized that I may have to give up dairy to heal my gut.
post #147 of 213
Welcome to our little thread, vegmom!
post #148 of 213
Hi all,
We are doing really well here too. Amazingly, right around 6 months, things just really started looking better. The only thing I think that is different is that I ran out of coconut oil, and stopped using that so much. They were eating a ton of it, in smoothies, cooking with it, etc. But I don't know if that is part of it or not.

It's really quite amazing. We've been on it for 7 months now. My 9 yo has gained 8 pounds and grown in height too. My 5 yo has gained 5 pounds and also grown in height. And they are both finally consistently having better stools. We still have some days that the stools just completely fall apart, but it's getting better all the time. They still both have a large volume of stool though, and I sometimes wonder if they aren't absorbing everything they could be still. But we seem to be improving all the time. Even almond flour is okay occassionally now. Can't overdo it though. Nut butters seem to go over better than the nut flour, and they are eating this every day. And SunButter is okay too. They actually seem to do really well with the SunButter now.

I feel like this is just such a process. I want to introduce some fermented things like kraut, kimchi maybe, but I just haven't had time to figure it all out. I hear you, LTB, I feel like I am doing dishes ALL flippin' day. I don't have a dishwasher, and lately I've been thinking about investing in some things I've really wanted like a VitaMix, a juicer, etc, but I think what would actually make my life a lot easier is a dishwasher! What do you guys think? Do you have a dishwasher? Is life on SCD/GAPS easier with one or have I deluded myself into that thinking?



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DS1 is turning 5 this month so I am collecting a bunch of birthday-treat-foods recipes and I need to order some almond flour or something.
I'm probably too late for this, but did you come up with some good treats? My littlest guy just turned 5 too! Happy Birthday! I made a birthday cake with almond flour, and a whipped honey/egg white frosting. To be honest, the frosting was horrible, it tasted burnt. I think we burned the honey a little bit in cooking it. And I think maybe adding some vanilla would have helped with the flavor. We also did chicken on the grill, hamburgers, and legal hot dogs.
My chicken recipe for the grill is awesome if you want me to share I can post it later. Basically you boil the chicken parts in a mix of oil, vinegar, an egg, and spices, and then you finish it on the grill to crisp up the skin. YUMMM!:

We also got Stretch Island fruit leathers, and we contemplated fruit skewers too, but then I cam to my senses.

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Yeah, we have a birthday coming up . . . our oldest son is turning 5. And the boys are not good with nuts. Or coconut flour. Soooo . . . it's been hard trying to come up with things to serve at the party! But I think we will do hot dogs (the "natural" kind) and fashion an ice cream cake out of coconut milk dairy-free ice cream (we like the Purely Decadent brand.) I can frost it with honey-egg white frosting. I think I will also make a frozen watermelon sherbet kind of a thing. Any other ideas are welcome!
There is a great dairy-free strawberry ice cream recipe, but I see you aren't doing berries right now.

We did another awesome hit at the party: Cut bananas in half and insert a cookie stick into the end (you can buy cookie sticks at craft stores, like Micheal's, and they are like lollipop sticks but a little but longer and thicker around). Then freeze the bananas on a cookie sheet with wax paper. Once frozen, spread nut butter on top, then roll in coconut, then freeze again. Double YUMMM! I'm copyrighting that idea and putting it in my SCD cookbook when it comes out!


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Mashenka, I've been having horrible cravings, too! For pasta, pies, cupcakes . . . when we are finally able to move onto nuts, we should be able to recreate some really yummy pies and make some kind of a cupcake thing . . . that will be fun.
I was having really bad cravings for a while, so much so that I would sneak off to the grocery store at night after my kiddos were in bed (DH home of course) and buy junk food and cheat. It was horrible. I literally could not stop eating. I was never full, never satiated. I recently started a constitutional homeopathic remedy, and the most amazing improvement I have had was that insatiable hunger went away. It's like I just don't even want the bad junky stuff anymore. Before, I would eat it even though I knew I would feel like cr@p afterwards. Now the cravings really are gone.

One more thing...is that Purely Decadent ice cream SCD-legal????? I'm not going to get my hopes up!

Gotta run now, sorry if this post is jumbled, I've been writing it in spurts between my kids needing various bots of my attention! Glad to hear all the good reports from everyone! :
post #149 of 213
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Hi all,
We are doing really well here too. Amazingly, right around 6 months, things just really started looking better. The only thing I think that is different is that I ran out of coconut oil, and stopped using that so much. They were eating a ton of it, in smoothies, cooking with it, etc. But I don't know if that is part of it or not.
Interesting! I'm so glad to hear you guys are doing better.

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I feel like this is just such a process. I want to introduce some fermented things like kraut, kimchi maybe, but I just haven't had time to figure it all out. I hear you, LTB, I feel like I am doing dishes ALL flippin' day. I don't have a dishwasher, and lately I've been thinking about investing in some things I've really wanted like a VitaMix, a juicer, etc, but I think what would actually make my life a lot easier is a dishwasher! What do you guys think? Do you have a dishwasher? Is life on SCD/GAPS easier with one or have I deluded myself into that thinking?
I know, I know, it really is a lot of work. A dishwasher really does make a big difference for me. We didn't have one last time, we do now. I do suggest getting at least one helpful appliance, either a juicer or the Vitamix or both.

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I'm probably too late for this, but did you come up with some good treats? My littlest guy just turned 5 too! Happy Birthday! I made a birthday cake with almond flour, and a whipped honey/egg white frosting. To be honest, the frosting was horrible, it tasted burnt. I think we burned the honey a little bit in cooking it. And I think maybe adding some vanilla would have helped with the flavor. We also did chicken on the grill, hamburgers, and legal hot dogs.
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One more thing...is that Purely Decadent ice cream SCD-legal????? I'm not going to get my hopes up!
No, sorry.

Coconut flavor: INGREDIENTS: ORGANIC COCONUT MILK, ORGANIC AGAVE SYRUP, CHICORY ROOT EXTRACT, ORGANIC DRIED COCONUT, CAROB BEAN GUM, GUAR GUM, NATURAL FLAVOR.

Passionate Mango: INGREDIENTS: ORGANIC COCONUT MILK, ORGANIC AGAVE SYRUP, CHICORY ROOT EXTRACT, MANGO PUREE, PASSIONFRUIT JUICE CONCENTRATE, CAROB BEAN GUM, GUAR GUM, NATURAL MANGO FLAVOR.

They have other flavors, too. http://www.turtlemountain.com
post #150 of 213
I am only half way reading this thread, but am wondering about the biokult probiotic. Can you heal without taking it? It is extremely expensive.
post #151 of 213
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I am only half way reading this thread, but am wondering about the biokult probiotic. Can you heal without taking it? It is extremely expensive.
Per NCM you CAN but it will take longer. If it's any consolation, you take it in such small doses to start off with, that a little goes a looooong way. We started at 1/4 cap for me and 1/10 for DS and that caused so much nasty die off [this was in week 4 or 6 of intro] that we only JUST went back to it [we are almost three months in to intro]

We are still on intro, so we just do lots and lots and lots of meat in a pot with veggies. I do find that veggies cooked in meat broth really really tide me over. We totally need to get some chickens, which were only just made legal in our town. We consume about 5 dozen eggs per week. No lie. And avocados. Oy. Organic avocados are so $$$$ but they are the kids' only snack. It's nice though, my Whole Foods basket usually only holds olive oil, carrots and celery for juice, sea salt and the avocados. The rest comes from the Farmers Market. Should be interesting to see what happens when all the good veggies are running out and just the starchy winter vegetables are in season. We'll figure it out.

As for a dishwasher: we went without for a few weeks [a month?] Our old one broke and we foolishly thought we could do without one. It was awful. We were at the beginning of intro and so disoriented and tired and were doing dishes ALL THE TIME.

What's been interesting for me is DH, who is only on the diet at home. He eats whatever he wants at work and just doesn't bring illegal stuff home. But his guilty pleasures of cafeteria fast food are coming to an end: his stomach is rebelling! And most surprising he had a few beers last weekend and reacted really badly. He's giving up beer. He has his own gut issues that he's not as readily acknowledging. I can only let him choose and only cook what is good for us. I'm glad his body is taking care of itself.

Good luck all. This is a tough path, but a very very rewarding one. The best side effect is that I sleep SO WELL. I slept horribly even before I was pregnant and up all night nursing. Now even though DD sometimes still nurses at night I sleep soundly.
post #152 of 213
I really don't want to do this diet and I don't feel we are "in it for the long haul". I feel like we're in it until we find something better. I want to try acupuncture for the boys next, I think. Acupuncture and NAET. I'm looking into these right now, but as always, money is an issue, so we'll see.
post #153 of 213
Doing my first day of intro today. Yesterday I tried to give up my raw milk but caved. Within about 10 min of drinking it I had a candida reaction.

I eat low carb usually and am sugar free, grain free, fruit free with lots of fermented foods. I could not understand why after so long I can't kick this yeast.

Now I know.
post #154 of 213
So it took me like 4 days to read this thread But you know that is just how it happens, eh?
So we started the intro Tuesday. We have been gf for almost 2 years but I knew that something was still going on with my 7 yr old and myself. I thought hey we should probably give up dairy too... But kept putting it off.
Then my chiro told me about this. She is actually the one who told me about going gf too, which worked wonders for my 7 yr old for awhile, she gained lots of weight, I lost it and life was grand. Until I started gaining weight again, like to almost the heaviest I have been and she stopped gaining so much.
My husband after talking with him is on board. Which surprises me considering he brews beer and while he never ate gluten in the house he did when he was out.
So we are on day 3 and since we didn't really have digestive issues I figured we would go through the intro pretty quick. Monday we did soups. Tuesday I tried eggs but uhh no one would eat them, at all. We cannot do the yolk in the soup. So I tried some avocado which was like heaven. And I just tried eggs tonight in the form of russian pudding. Everyone, but me, is doing fine with it. I am feeling like I am going to die!!! I feel sick and like my stomach is just going to burn a hole in my body. I am trying to keep myself from the I want to throw up feeling. I hope this goes away soon. I didn't eat very much, but yeah.
My husband, youngest dd(2) and myself have dealt with some sugar withdrawal. We are all so lovingly snapping at each other. My middle child(5) is sleeping a whole lot more. My oldest the whole reason why we went gf seems to be doing great. Like she is totally thriving on this diet. Oh we have all lost a little weight but she is seriously doing well.
Though now that I think I am wondering. I noticed both of them had a slight sprinkling of a red rash on their chests this evening. Think maybe it was the eggs? I checked again and it was gone. Maybe look for it again when they have eggs again?
So I am going to skip eggs for awhile, but keep the avocados up. I guess we aren't going to move as fast as I thought we would...
post #155 of 213
Wild Flowers--WELCOME! It is good to make sure you are eating things that are not hurting you--try and figure out what is making your gut hurt so much. I thought I would go through dome stages/foods faster but it took time. Like saurkraut-I had been eating that and other ferments for years, but I had a bad gut reaction to it in the beginning and got really discouraged. Then I just waited another week and it was totally fine. That is why I kept onthe diet--It seemed like I was really healing week to week. (I think it took me 4-6weeks to get trough the intro and onto the full diet--minus dairy).

Vegmom-Sorry about the milk but it is nice to know what is hurting you s you can heal. s

Liotigerbear-I hope you find something you are happy with. I thought GAPS worked really well for you before but I can see how it would be so overwhelming to do with kids.

I just wanted to give thumbs up to the SCD midas gold pancakes from the pecanbread site. I really wanted something different for breakfast and these came out so well. There is a tiny bit of baking soda with is not recd on GAPS but I took all mt HCI and enzymes so I think it will be fine.

HERE IS DR NCM's SITE AGAIN in case anyone missed out---
http://gaps.me/preview/
It has been so helpful to me that I want everyone on GAPS tp check it out. I like how it has averages for when people get to add back grains and such so I can be mentally prepared.

Jen
post #156 of 213
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I feel like such a loser because I started this thread but didn't go through the whole intro thing with DD. Then I basically stopped reading it and then gave up on the diet with her. I do have excuses -- pregnancy and really bad financial situation, pressure from DH, etc.

DD had an episode of not being able to get her poop out yesterday because it hurt. This is due to the last few days' overload on bread. I swear she is a maniac whenever it is in the room. So I posted my problem as part of a chat thread on a local natural parents' board. Somebody mentioned something about how we do so well on a 'weird diet' but probably are just gluten intolerant. That made me feel bad but also got me thinking. I was trying to compromise with DH a little by allowing the bread. And we also did some rice a while back just to use what was in the house and not spend money we didn't have.

She did do okay with the rice, and even a little sourdough bread. But it seems that the bread that really gave her the problem was some homemade white bread that was at a house where I babysit. I wonder if this is really what happened, or I'm just grasping at straws.
post #157 of 213
What I find amazing right now is how much food is filling us up. Though we do eat more often. I tried very small peanut butter and carrot pulp pancakes this morning. I wanted to try one so I didn't use eggs. Well it cured my craving for nuts The girls of course did wonderful on them. And so did my husband. I did not get sick it just felt like I had eaten like 10 pancakes. So I think I am going to try them even smaller. I still have a lot of batter in the fridge. It was about 75% carrot and 25% peanut butter. But I have to say I think we are doing even better today. My girls are actually seeking out water instead of me reminding them to drink. My daughter, the youngest, isn't tantruming near as much. It has been nice. Oh there are some challenges. We went to costco to pick up some avocados and some veggies and it was hard looking at all the food we used to get. but the veggies there are much cheaper and we are going through a ton of veggies. I really cannot believe how much veggies we are going through.
post #158 of 213
So what is the difference between die off and a reaction? Anyone? I know I probably read it somewhere but I can't find anything. My reaction to the eggs wasn't severe and didn't include any diarrhea, just stomach cramps and nausea. My husband though made himself some pancakes yesterday and used walnut flour and has now what I would consider die off symptoms. Pretty much looks like he has the flu, no throwing up though. And anything I can do for him? I am kinda a little worried, he was on board because of sme things but I am worried that now he is sick he may not be as supportive. I gave him a massage and he fell asleep so hopefully he wakes up feeling a little better. But I am also curious now that my egg thing wasn't a reaction but a die off? I oly had a few bites. And my skindidn't react to the egg at all.
post #159 of 213
Wildflowers-- With stomach cramps I would wait a week and try eggs again. I would not eat anything that was causing stomach pain because that is not a good sign.

For your dh---I do epsom salt baths, vitamin C, (I use sodium ascorbate), and drink water.

The GAPS link I posted a few back should say the difference between die off and reaction. I just remember someone telling me that if you get a negative stomach/bowel reaction to a food then to wait on it.
post #160 of 213
thanks. I went back to that and looked through it again. So he is probably alright on peanuts but not walnuts, right? I hope he takes that alright
He is still asleep.
Oh and I have aquestion on spices during intro. Really can we use no spices? Maybe introing one at a time? I normally just cook my veggies so having them so well done is very unappetizing to me. Having some spice might make it a little better.
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