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post #341 of 365
LOL.... I have to wonder why so many people keep watching this show when they obviously cannot stand Kate so much. I don't think I would watch something if I disliked the stars, lol.

I've been watching here and there some of the flashback shows and I just feel bad for both of them. They seemed so in love in the beginning and now they are obviously at constant odds. I wonder how much of Kate's seemingly negative attitude is a manifestation of the fact that her marriage seems to be falling apart. I know when I'm having a rough spot I tend to take it out on anyone around me... we're none of us perfect, I guess, lol.

For the most part I'm amazed at the earlier footage of how well she took physical care of them. I only have two kids and a lot of times it feels like too much work to make organic pancakes from scratch every day, lol.
post #342 of 365
I think I might have to stop watching too, it makes me so sad. Kate is just awful, I mean she must seriously be the LEAST fun person I've ever seen. I mean, does she ever just relax and enjoy herself??? I really hope it's the stress of TV and that they quit doing the show. Oh, and Leah singing was adorable, I loved that.
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I wonder how much of Kate's seemingly negative attitude is a manifestation of the fact that her marriage seems to be falling apart. I know when I'm having a rough spot I tend to take it out on anyone around me... we're none of us perfect, I guess, lol.
but that seems to have a lot to do with how she treats her husband and the fact that they are still doing this show. the show seems to be obviously putting stress on their whole family. Look how long Mady has been acting out and no one has ever caught on that it might be caused by them doing this show, well that and I'm sure the fact that she has all those siblings. And Kate stated on the last show of the last season that she wanted to go for another season even after Jon made it seem obvious that he didn't want that. she isn't even trying to do what is best to save her family at this point. That doesn't make her a good example IMO. They are past being good examples for anyone at this point. Nothing like they were in the beginning.
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For the most part I'm amazed at the earlier footage of how well she took physical care of them. I only have two kids and a lot of times it feels like too much work to make organic pancakes from scratch every day, lol.
but this is a prime example of how Kate overdoes it most of the time. She does too much in the kitchen cooking and cleaning and works so hard to exaggerate her situation. The family with 10 kids aren't always in the kitchen. The Duggars aren't always in the kitchen either and they even homeschool and keep their children home 24/7, something Kate does not do, so she has plenty of extra time to plan ahead and freeze meals. For example, I know a mom with a six kids that makes fresh from scratch pancakes ahead of time and freezes them so the family can get them out and pop them in and heat them up to save time. Kate could do lots of things to save time so that she has more time for her kids when they are home.
post #344 of 365
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but this is a prime example of how Kate overdoes it most of the time. She does too much in the kitchen cooking and cleaning and works so hard to exaggerate her situation. The family with 10 kids aren't always in the kitchen. The Duggars aren't always in the kitchen either and they even homeschool and keep their children home 24/7, something Kate does not do, so she has plenty of extra time to plan ahead and freeze meals. For example, I know a mom with a six kids that makes fresh from scratch pancakes ahead of time and freezes them so the family can get them out and pop them in and heat them up to save time. Kate could do lots of things to save time so that she has more time for her kids when they are home.
Yup, youre dead on.
post #345 of 365
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Why are the Gosselins still Marching along? It's April.
Cause we haven't gotten ourselves in trouble yet.
post #346 of 365
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Cause we haven't gotten ourselves in trouble yet.
Pretty much. I'll start a new one next week for May though.
post #347 of 365
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but that seems to have a lot to do with how she treats her husband and the fact that they are still doing this show. the show seems to be obviously putting stress on their whole family. Look how long Mady has been acting out and no one has ever caught on that it might be caused by them doing this show, well that and I'm sure the fact that she has all those siblings. And Kate stated on the last show of the last season that she wanted to go for another season even after Jon made it seem obvious that he didn't want that. she isn't even trying to do what is best to save her family at this point. That doesn't make her a good example IMO. They are past being good examples for anyone at this point. Nothing like they were in the beginning.
but this is a prime example of how Kate overdoes it most of the time. She does too much in the kitchen cooking and cleaning and works so hard to exaggerate her situation. The family with 10 kids aren't always in the kitchen. The Duggars aren't always in the kitchen either and they even homeschool and keep their children home 24/7, something Kate does not do, so she has plenty of extra time to plan ahead and freeze meals. For example, I know a mom with a six kids that makes fresh from scratch pancakes ahead of time and freezes them so the family can get them out and pop them in and heat them up to save time. Kate could do lots of things to save time so that she has more time for her kids when they are home.

I don't know. I guess it's kind of a chicken and the egg thing; who can really say which came first? The problems in her marriage or her apparent unhappiness? I can't say and neither can anyone else aside from Jon and Kate themselves. FTR, I don't think Jon treats her like I would want to be treated either and IMO they're both guilty.

WRT the Duggars.... they do delegate the majority of housework and cooking to the older kids, do they not? Kate's kids are all the same age and they're certainly not old enough to take on the workload the Duggar kids do. It seems almost like Kate can't win here; either she has hired help and she's getting reamed for that or she's spending too much time (?) cooking for and taking care of her kids. To me, it just seems like for some folks Kate can do no right and there's little to no sympathy for her situation which may or may not be as we perceive it to be. I mean, we only see what's being edited for us to see... who really can say why their marriage is in trouble and whether or not it has to do with her desire for the show to go on Jon's seeming lack of participation without instruction or whatever might be going on when the cameras are off.
post #348 of 365
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but this is a prime example of how Kate overdoes it most of the time. She does too much in the kitchen cooking and cleaning and works so hard to exaggerate her situation.
I think part of it is to exaggerate her situation, and the other part is that she seems to look for things to do to NOT be spending time with the kids. It seems like any time she can find something to do that doesn't involve them, she jumps on it.
post #349 of 365
Leah singing was really adorable, I loved that.

Does anyone know when the new season starts?
post #350 of 365
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I don't know. I guess it's kind of a chicken and the egg thing; who can really say which came first? The problems in her marriage or her apparent unhappiness? I can't say and neither can anyone else aside from Jon and Kate themselves. FTR, I don't think Jon treats her like I would want to be treated either and IMO they're both guilty.

WRT the Duggars.... they do delegate the majority of housework and cooking to the older kids, do they not? Kate's kids are all the same age and they're certainly not old enough to take on the workload the Duggar kids do. It seems almost like Kate can't win here; either she has hired help and she's getting reamed for that or she's spending too much time (?) cooking for and taking care of her kids. To me, it just seems like for some folks Kate can do no right and there's little to no sympathy for her situation which may or may not be as we perceive it to be. I mean, we only see what's being edited for us to see... who really can say why their marriage is in trouble and whether or not it has to do with her desire for the show to go on Jon's seeming lack of participation without instruction or whatever might be going on when the cameras are off.
this.

i'm no "fan" of this show at all, but my kids really love to watch.....to see the kids.....so i have seen it over the years. and as i sit and read all the stuff said here, i must agree with the above poster, that it seems as if you all just hate kate no matter what, and that seems to be the ONLY part of the show that is commented on......what kate does/says/wears/doesn't do/doesn't say/blah blah blah. and i really don't believe for one minute that jon is some sort of "victim" here. my gosh my dh and i would HATE to see how judgmental people would be if we were caught on camera butting heads!!! in the midst of any kind of stress/argument/chaos we aren't nice to each other, we aren't smiling and kind to each other, and sometimes we snap and are disrespectful to each other. but we know each other well enough, and still LOVE each other. good grief! i also snap at my kids and sometimes feel like i've been the worst mother in the world. and again, i can only imagine the judgment that would come with cameras rolling during all of it.

and if i may say that it has been my (and my kid's) observation that mady has ALWAYS been a total whiner.......even back in the "good old days" when kate apparently wasn't the devil to everyone. so i'm not buying that she just suddenly "became this way" because she's done shooting the show. she's been acting like this for years now.

i really think that none of us really knows what goes on in anyone else's lives except our own. but maybe that's just my opinion. and please save the "flames", etc. as i've already stated, i'm not some sort of "superfan" of kate's or jon's or the show's....i don't need to be "converted" to anyone's "camp". this is just an outsider's take on this.
post #351 of 365
True, Mady has a whiny temperament. But also, could it not be that her parent's marriage disintegrating is affecting her behavior? Why does it have to be that Kate is just mean-mommy and that they show is taking over their lives. The Duggars have had the cameras around for just as long and I don't see anyone worrying about the overexposure of their kids.

Kate isn't a bad mom. Maybe I'm watching a different show because I see her on the floor playing with them and making sure they have healthy organic foods (and come on, how can MDC be against taking extra time for whole foods based nutrition??? Give me a break!) making sure they have arts and crafts time, making sure they each get alone time with them, etc.

I do not personally feel comfortable judging her because I have certainly not walked a mile in her shoes. I can only imagine how insanely cranky I would be from time to time if I had 6 toddlers.
post #352 of 365
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this is just an outsider's take on this.
You know what, though? We are all just outsiders. None of us can claim to know anything about them for an absolute fact because that show is edited and editing and, for that matter, just the act of being observed changes that which is being observed. We all know reality tv thrives on conflict... all entertainment thrives on an element of conflict so it behooves the producers to create conflict.
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post #355 of 365
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The Duggars have had the cameras around for just as long and I don't see anyone worrying about the overexposure of their kids.
The Duggars had a few specials and then a handful of episodes this year of their "series". The Gosselins have had cameras in their home at least 3 days a week since the 'tups were, what, 18 months old? The Duggars don't make money off their kids' backs. They don't need the TV show. Neither Jon nor Kate make any money on their own; it is on the backs of their children.

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Kate isn't a bad mom. Maybe I'm watching a different show because I see her on the floor playing with them and making sure they have healthy organic foods (and come on, how can MDC be against taking extra time for whole foods based nutrition??? Give me a break!) making sure they have arts and crafts time, making sure they each get alone time with them, etc.
When was the last time Kate was shown playing on the floor with her children? (I don't tune in every week anymore, but I would be shocked if she all of a sudden started doing that.) In fact, it's rare to see her interact with them on that kind of level at all. She usually just micromanages whatever project they are trying to do, if she's 'participating' to begin with.

Their healthy organic lollipops and marshmallow fluff. Just because something is organic doesn't make it healthy.

Making sure they have arts and crafts time...does this include the times when they are doing a "scripted" project (painting the basement, the pudding painting, etc.), or not? Because if not, the last time I remember them doing any kind of "arts and crafts" stuff was way back when Jon was still working. (Again, I am happy to be corrected, if something was shown recently that I missed.)

And the alone time...there were eight individual "days out" last year. Kate didn't go with the boys, because, I guess, boys are gross. Since then, she's in a different city every week (although it's easy to find her appearance schedule online, and it looks like she's gone for more of April than she will be home), and Jon took Cara to Utah, filmed with her one entire day, and then sent her home on an airplane while he stayed in Utah.

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I do not personally feel comfortable judging her because I have certainly not walked a mile in her shoes. I can only imagine how insanely cranky I would be from time to time if I had 6 toddlers.
To judge is to form an opinion about something. Just because a judgment is not a favorable one, doesn't make it any more judgmental than a favorable judgment.
post #356 of 365
This is OT but the Dilley 6 PAck were on the Food NEtwork tonight. There is a show called Last Cake STanding and the final challenge was to make a cake for their 16th birthday. It was really neat seeing them all grown up, they seem like a great group of kids with diverse styles and interests.

I can only comment on what I see from Kate and alot of it isn't good. When she shows me good I do try to comment on it, but I guess for most ppl it "seems" out of character even if it is genuine because it happens so infrequently, kwim?
post #357 of 365
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And would somebody please tell Kate to stay away from the fake tan? It's absolutely scary.
and somebody PLEASE get her to a hair stylist immediatley! That swoop has been overgrown for a while now!

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but this is a prime example of how Kate overdoes it most of the time. She does too much in the kitchen cooking and cleaning and works so hard to exaggerate her situation. The family with 10 kids aren't always in the kitchen. The Duggars aren't always in the kitchen either and they even homeschool and keep their children home 24/7, something Kate does not do, so she has plenty of extra time to plan ahead and freeze meals. For example, I know a mom with a six kids that makes fresh from scratch pancakes ahead of time and freezes them so the family can get them out and pop them in and heat them up to save time. Kate could do lots of things to save time so that she has more time for her kids when they are home.
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ITA. She is always in the kitchen going on and on about how shes cooking organic food (which doesn't mean it's always healthy), and she never spends time with the kids. You never see her just playing or sitting around spending time with them. It's always her cooking or cleaining (which I do believe she totally exaggerates). I feel really sorry for the kids bc even when they try to be close with her (i.e. mady trying to hug her), she just dismisses them and continues doing whatever it is she wants.

I would say I feel sorry for Jon, but honestly, he was able to quit his job and now lives off the money from the show just like kate, so I really don't feel too bad for him. If he really didn't want to continue with the show he wouldn't have quit his job and become totally dependent on the tv money
post #358 of 365
I would really enjoy reality tv more if the families/people were required to maintain some sort of the lifestyle that they have when the show starts. Not that they can't move or work a bit less in order have time to do the show but their lifestyle should not change drastically like it has with a lot of these tv families. I almost feel like I am watching a show called - "Watch us get rich by doing realiyt tv"! The trips and everything are just WAY over the top!

Also, Jon and Kate would both probably be happier if he was working outside the house! If he does not want to work then let him go volunteer or something! I am sure there are non-profits that would love to use his computer skills!
post #359 of 365
Just curious, Jon is home full time now? I noticed he was around more on episodes. Did he want to quit? Did Kate need more help?
post #360 of 365
i think i'd lose my dang mind if i had twins and sextuplets, so my hat goes off to anybody who is just SURVIVING in that situation. i've got so many not-awesome-mommy moments with just my small brood. i can't even begin to imagine having any more.
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