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post #21 of 68
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Originally Posted by RunnerDuck View Post
Some of them are made to be flipped - I don't know if it works with all of them but some of them are made to be used as a high chair one way and a bucket holder the other way.

Reasons to leave the baby in the bucket - baby is sleeping... mom wants to eat a meal with hands/lap free (nothing wrong with this!!!)... mom doesn't like wearing baby... baby doesn't like being worn ... baby is happy where he/she is and picking him/her up is liable to start a cycle of cry/comfort/put down/cry/comfort/put down which doesn't go over well in a restaurant...

Baby wearing is not always mutually enjoyable for mom and baby, and having the baby in a car seat/carrier/bucket does not make an inferior parent. As long as everyone is happy and the baby isn't screaming and being ignored - hang the "experts."
Yes!! You said it much kinder than I would have.
post #22 of 68
I could never leave my boys in the bucket seat, I only used it for ease of switching cars. They would and will to this day only tolerate being in a carseat in a car that is in motion. Yes I have the children who cry at red lights.

I have two problems with carrying the seat around and that is that most times the ones I see the babies are not secured properly with the harness loose b/c proper harnesses look too tight (my MIL is always complaining our boys are strapped in too tight, I always explain that the harness is their seatbelt and seatbelts do not help if they are loose) and number two most women I see don't use the strollers set up for these seats and are carrying about 8-10lbs of carseat plus 8-10lbs (at least) of baby. Its not good for your body.

I know about the risks of sleeping in the seats but have to wonder what if they sleep in the car? Are you supposed to stop and wake them up? How does that work? Sometimes safety guidelines are not followed because they are not convient or reasonable to people.
post #23 of 68
While I don't put the bucket seat in a shopping cart, because I can't see around it, they are very convenient as portable baby seats. Not everyone is comfortable wearing a baby while jammed into a narrow restaurant booth.
post #24 of 68
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Originally Posted by RunnerDuck View Post
Some of them are made to be flipped - I don't know if it works with all of them but some of them are made to be used as a high chair one way and a bucket holder the other way.

Reasons to leave the baby in the bucket - baby is sleeping... mom wants to eat a meal with hands/lap free (nothing wrong with this!!!)... mom doesn't like wearing baby... baby doesn't like being worn ... baby is happy where he/she is and picking him/her up is liable to start a cycle of cry/comfort/put down/cry/comfort/put down which doesn't go over well in a restaurant...

Baby wearing is not always mutually enjoyable for mom and baby, and having the baby in a car seat/carrier/bucket does not make an inferior parent. As long as everyone is happy and the baby isn't screaming and being ignored - hang the "experts."

I agree. Can't make general rules about all parenting styles. I mostly wore DD when she was younger but we also took the bucket seat with us because DD would be happier in there sometimes.
I do not think that bucket seats when used correctly are a safety hazard whatsoever.
post #25 of 68
Personally, I have never been able to eat while holding a baby without most of the food ending up on the baby. Right there is my reason for taking the bucket seat into restaurants.

Now don't get me wrong - I hate it when I see a baby come in, strapped in the seat, plopped down and ignored the entire meal, having a paci shoved in its mouth if it protests and then taken back out to the car still strapped in...after an hour and a half dinner.

We didn't do that though. We brought the seat in, took the baby out and held it, nursed it, etc. until the meal came and then baby sat in seat while we ate. We would usually pick baby back up, take it for a diaper change, offer another nursing, etc. before buckling baby back in. It was no more than a high chair for a baby who was too little to sit up in a high chair.
post #26 of 68
Interesting. I wonder if it's just a cultural thing then? B/c I view bucket seats as normal and frankly one of the best things since sliced bread.

DD was born in November so I kept her in the bucket seat when moving from the car to where ever we are going. As bad as you think it is to see a kid in a bucket seat...well, that's how I bad I think it is to see a newborn "gagging" because cold air/snow/rain is blowing in his or her face. Actually, I think it's a lot worse.

Sometime last month, my mommy instinct wore off on the issue of DD being exposed to cold air. Could be that it just warmed up a bit, could be that she seemed "older" to me. Whatever the case, I started taking her out and slinging her or using her shopping cart cover thingie.

But if she falls asleep during the car ride, you bet your bottom booty that I'm hauling her around in the bucket seat. We have a rule in our house: die before waking the baby.

It's totally your choice. If you think it's great to pull a sleeping baby out of a warm car, expose him or her to the cold air, put them in a sling (mind you, my DD HATES the sling and is terrified of being restricted) then haul the babe around the store for the 20 minutes it takes to shop or get groceries, then repeat in reverse order....good for you. I don't know why it has to be hard to make someone feel as if they are being an awesome mom. I'll take easy any day.
post #27 of 68
Yes, I used to use the bucket seat out of the car - and enjoyed the few minutes of sleeping baby quietude and being hands-free in the store. If I ventured into a store or cafe with the baby in the bucket it was *because* he was sleeping. It was a special thing - not an everyday thing. And when he woke up he wouldn't tolerate being in the seat very long anyway, so I'd bring along the carrier and transfer him to it. As for restaurants - we did the flipped-highchair thing and also put the bucket right on the table, with ds1, and dh and I enjoyed the few amazing moments when he was happy just chilling out sitting and looking around! We did that about, oh, twice? We opted for convenience since it was not our routine, it was a special treat to have a meal out. Pretty sure that didn't damage him. Yes, the seat was on a "raised surface" being on the table - but with us sitting right there eating, we weren't worried that the seat would suddenly jump off the table!

And another thing is that baby in a bucket for 5 minutes driving + 10 minutes in the store is the same as 15 minutes driving and the sling in the store. You don't know how long someone else's baby has been in the bucket when you see them out in the store. It's good to understand that you shouldn't use the bucket all day every day - but you have to be practical about it and use your best judgment. Like for most things.
post #28 of 68
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Originally Posted by The4OfUs View Post
I agree it totally depends on the baby and situation.

(snip)

This is another one of those instances where IMO it's the *over*use/misuse (misuse IMO being the parent not interacting with the baby while in the bucket) of the gadget being problematic, not the container itself.
Totally that!!

Ds liked to be held almost all the time. In the beginning, there was maybe 15 minutes a day that he would tolerate not being held- and those 15 minutes were in the carseat out in a public place like a restaurant or grocery store (not in the car- he cried when in the seat in the car). I figured if he was happy in it, and it certainly didn't interfere with him getting plenty of holding time, it was all good
There was *definitely* no fear of us getting complacent and just letting him sit for hours in the car seat! He made SURE of that! And anyway, after 15 minutes or so, I missed holding him and would have picked him up regardless.

At that point, I didn't know about car seats interfering with airways. But I'm sure that I would still be ok with 15 minutes so I could have a tiny break.
post #29 of 68
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Originally Posted by DevaMajka View Post
At that point, I didn't know about car seats interfering with airways. But I'm sure that I would still be ok with 15 minutes so I could have a tiny break.
I have heard about this problem a lot IRL and online. I can't figure it out. Even when DD was brand spanking new, her neck was aligned properly and she was breathing fine.

Does it have to do with the brand/style of the seat? The incline due to the brand of the car? Chemicals in the padding/cover?

Maybe the newborn needs chiropractic care?

DH was thinking DD didn't have a problem b/c she was 11lbs at birth.
post #30 of 68
Ella's in hers more than I'm happy with b/c it's been so darn cold here. I carry her in in the bucket and 90% of the time she's passed out so i just leave her in. if you undo the straps she wakes up. She's a weird kid . If she's awake or it's a warm out though she's out of there. She loves sitting in our laps at restaurants and playing with straws a napkins. I never get the people who leave a wide awake baby in the bucket at a restaurant the whole time. DH and I have mastered the art of eating with one hand and baby passing.
post #31 of 68
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Originally Posted by claddaghmom View Post
But if she falls asleep during the car ride, you bet your bottom booty that I'm hauling her around in the bucket seat. We have a rule in our house: die before waking the baby.
I see we went to the same school of parenting! I used to tell ppl, "You wake her, you take her. She's breastfed." I also said, frequently, "If you wake my very intense and high needs baby, it is justifiable homicide!" My goodness, if she fell asleep in the car, you can bet your life that I kept that child in the carseat.
post #32 of 68
I guess if I had started babywearing when DS was first born 2 1/2 years ago I would have seen the convenience of it. I would have become used to it. But, I didn't. Also, I will not judge mothers on either side of the issue.

Personally, I don't find wearing a sling in the least bit convenient 75% of the time. Now I will probably wear DD more now that we no longer have windchill in the teens or even negatives. Sometimes I will see small babies in a sling. But, you will NEVER see a toddler in any kind of carrier (ERGO, Mei Tai, etc.) in our area. Strollers are used extensively around here. Now, I have spoke w/other young mothers who will use slings around the house. But, not so much so in public. That's pretty much what I do. Sometimes DD is a bit fussy and I need to get stuff done so I wear her. All is well and she is happy.

Also, DD takes her best naps in the bucket. I check on her every few minutes and make sure she's okay. I see no harm in this.
post #33 of 68
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Originally Posted by Crystal_R View Post
Ella's in hers more than I'm happy with b/c it's been so darn cold here. I carry her in in the bucket and 90% of the time she's passed out so i just leave her in. if you undo the straps she wakes up. She's a weird kid . If she's awake or it's a warm out though she's out of there. She loves sitting in our laps at restaurants and playing with straws a napkins. I never get the people who leave a wide awake baby in the bucket at a restaurant the whole time. DH and I have mastered the art of eating with one hand and baby passing.
How old is she? I found it's not too bad until they get a little older (10 mos and up) and are reaching for the salt shaker, the sugar caddy, my cup, dh's cup, the older sibs cups, yanking straws out of those cups, winging wet straws around, wielding forks as though he is on a mission to slay the lettuce in my salad, feeding us animal crackers (how sweet! he wants to share) that he just dipped in the salsa (gag), and popping his head over the booths behind us and yelling, "AAAHHH!" (The folks in both booths laughed! )

That all happened last night, ds2 is 16 mos old, and it was actually really relaxed and calm! He gets frustrated being contained these days. One-hand eating is a necessity if we're nursing (not too bad then because he's busy) or if ds just wants to be held, but it was MUCH easier when he was younger, even if we did spill food on his head. Often. :
post #34 of 68
I did my share of both with older dd. She was born in November, so from the cold outside standpoint, I often took the bucket in to the grocery store, or a quick errand. But I usually used the sling for everything else. Restaurants, it depended, if it was cold outside then bucket in and the sling once I was seated, until she could sit in a highchair. She would usually nurse though my dinner and I could still use two hands once getting her positioned.

I do hate seeing older babies, ones that can obviously sit up becuase they are straining against the shoulder straps unhappy with the incline, strapped in at the grocery or restaurant. I feel like screaming sit the kid in the cart or the highchair and let them be engaged inthe meal/trip
post #35 of 68
Thread Starter 
I added some clarification to my first post as many seemed to think that this was an attack, which it wasn't. I see very unhappy babies strapped into car seats in unsafe situations all the time in my area. It is horrible and makes me not want to go anywhere that I might encounter a baby sometimes.
post #36 of 68
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Originally Posted by ryansma View Post
Kind of OT but relevant. My personal experience has been that the longer I am a mother the more often I have found that I eat crow.
I have learned to accept, enjoy, and even anticipate crow. :
post #37 of 68
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Originally Posted by tinyactsofcharity View Post
. If your kid is happy than fine but I'm talking about unhappy babies in dangerous situations here. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
it's a parenting issue, not a bucket seat issue.
post #38 of 68
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Originally Posted by tinyactsofcharity View Post
Every day I see people carrying their infants in their car seat buckets. I see these car seats in shopping carts, overturned restaurant high chairs, and sitting on the floor. I do. not. understand. this.

Is this common everywhere or just in my geographical area?

Wasn't there just recently a widely publicized study saying that infants should not spend more time than absolutely necessary in bucket seats and that they should never be used outside of the car?

I know that the AAP isn't our collective favorite for parenting advice but they have come out strongly against buckets in shopping carts: one article here.

I see people flipping restaurant style high chairs upside down and plopping the bucket seat on top of that. Really??? That is so obviously unsafe...

Why not just buy a sling? Ring slings and pouches are quite easy to use.

I just don't get it... it is a CAR seat. Meant to restrain a baby in the CAR.

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ETA: Okay, I'd like to say here that I am not being judgmental here. I had to go to toys r us the other day and saw 3 different babies in buckets clipped into the toddler seat on the cart even though there was a sign that said not to. All three were screaming bloody murder. THEN while I was still there, I saw a preschooler grab onto their parents cart, while it was holding the baby seat, and the weight FLIPPED THE CART. Traumatizing, much?!?!

I saw the highchair thing flip with a kid in it with the slightest accidental brush from a waitress a month or so ago. It was horrible. AND I had heard a DIFFERENT waitress ask the family to not use the high chair in that way only 5 minutes prior. I wanted to never eat out again.

And every time I go to the WIC office I see babies sitting in buckets SCREAMING their heads off and being completely ignored. This was not a random babywearing plug and me being holier than thou. I am NOT like that. If you use your bucket seat correctly, whatever, I just think that the amount of suffering that I personally see on a daily basis sucks. If your kid is happy than fine but I'm talking about unhappy babies in dangerous situations here. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The bolded part is what IMO was taken as judgemental. It's true that some people simply don't know about slings while others choose not to use them for many of the reasons listed here. The examples you stated -small baby in toddler seat at BRUS, and using a highchair NOT intended for carseats are more about careless parents. The WIC office story just makes me sad. Hopefully those mothers DO respond to their babies and you are only seeing them at a bad time. You could always offer to amuse baby for a second or show them your sling.
It IS sad to see unahappy babies.
post #39 of 68
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Originally Posted by RunnerDuck View Post
I have learned to accept, enjoy, and even anticipate crow. :
LOL Yes! It just happens more and more frequently and I find myself replaying things I have said in the past "My child would never color all over himself with marker! How hard is it to watch your own child?" and laughing out loud.
Good times. :
post #40 of 68
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Originally Posted by ryansma View Post
LOL Yes! It just happens more and more frequently and I find myself replaying things I have said in the past "My child would never color all over himself with marker! How hard is it to watch your own child." and laughing out loud.
Good times. :
LMAO!! awesome!
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