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Medela & the WHO code

post #1 of 107
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Medela has issued a statement on their website regarding the marketing of breastmilk substitutes.

http://www.medelabreastfeedingus.com...L%20021109.pdf

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"We pledge our dedication to breastfeeding as the best nutrition for babies and families. We further pledge that our breastfeeding accessory products and literature shall never be used to influence mothers to switch from breastfeeding to infant formula feeding. Nor shall our breastfeeding accessory products and literature be used in any way to promote artificial baby milk." Breastfeeding Support Pledge, Olle Larsson, Founder of Medela.
Do you agree with the Medela even though they violate the WHO code?
post #2 of 107
I'm not terribly up on this issue. How does Medela violate the WHO code? I thought they made breastpumps, etc (which are of pretty good quality, and help working moms continue to provide breastmilk for their babies).
post #3 of 107
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They are allowed to sell pump kits with bottles and nipples but once they started marketing these seperately from pumps, they are no longer in compliance.
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My thoughts:

I think that Medela helps women breastfeed longer, by allowing them to pump when they go back to work. They have supported the breastfeeding community for a long time. By selling bottles and nipples, does their credibility go away? I don't think so.

Unfortunately, this decision has made LLL take a stand and they will no longer do business with Medela. (I do not have a statement that I can post at this time, but I think I can PM it to people?) It makes me think that LLLI is living ina fantasy world where every Mom is a SAHM and there is no need to pump. We need better maternity leave in this country. Until then, there are companies like Medela who help women pump by selling a product. Yes, they are a business and I don't have any issue with them selling bottles and nipples. They are a BREAST pump comany, not a formula company.
post #4 of 107
The issue isn't the selling of the bottles and nipples, it's the MARKETING of those products. According to the WHO code, they are allowed to market their pumps, etc, but not the bottles and nipples. I am a working mom, and I do use their bottles and nipples b/c I figure they were designed with breastmilk in mind.
post #5 of 107
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Originally Posted by jocelynr View Post
The issue isn't the selling of the bottles and nipples, it's the MARKETING of those products. According to the WHO code, they are allowed to market their pumps, etc, but not the bottles and nipples. I am a working mom, and I do use their bottles and nipples b/c I figure they were designed with breastmilk in mind.
I feel the same way. And I also look at is as Medela offering "replacements" for moms who have lost those items from the pump kit. Many times, I have ordered individual bottles, tubing, and other accessories because the ones that came with the pump were either lost or no longer worked. I never even thought of the WHO code.
post #6 of 107

The global perspective -- a bit of a rant (warning: infant death discussed)

I'm wondering if those who think Medela should be exempted from Code compliance b/c they only market stand-alone bottles and teats but not artificial baby milk fully understand the purpose and scope of the Code and the rationale for including bottles and teats in its language.

The 1981 International Code of Marketing of Breast-milk Substitutes, and the rest of the policy framework of which it forms a key part, isn't really designed with you, the North American consumer, in mind. We are sufficiently privileged that even if we do not breastfeed, our children will almost certainly survive to adulthood. The Code's primary field of concern is with infant feeding as a global health issue. Try reading through the Code with that concern in mind.

Here's another good read -- the 1990 Innocenti Declaration and its follow-up policy document, the Innocenti Declaration 2005.

Why was another document like this written 15 years after the first one? Because, sadly, so little has changed since 1981 and 1990.

The world (by which I mean governments, corporations, and other powerful institutions in society) knows exactly what it needs to do to increase exclusive breastfeeding rates and save the lives of thousands of babies every day. Most of the world simply refuses to do it. Marketing not just artificial baby milk but also feeding apparatuses like bottles and teats is a huge part of the problem. This is why these items are included in the Code.

Selling bottles and teats to mothers is one step towards disrupting their breastfeeding relationship and selling them artificial baby milk. How many of us here on the lactivist board would think it's a swell idea to give an expectant mother who intends to breastfeed a nice set of bottles, teats, and pacifiers at her baby shower? We know this is not supportive of breastfeeding and that just having them in the house makes it more likely that breastfeeding will fail.

Now imagine how much the risk to the baby's health is increased if that mother doesn't have access to clean water, electricity, or decent medical care. Even if it's breastmilk going in the bottles (which it likely would not be), if the bottles and nipples become contaminated with the fecal matter that is endemic in most of the world's water supply, what's going to happen to the baby who drinks from those bottles and teats? There's a greatly increased risk of that baby becoming seriously ill and dying -- directly due to the use of bottles and teats as a substitute for at-the-breast breastfeeding.

But what does any of this have to do with you, the North American lactivist, who is so privileged you can take for granted 24/7 access to clean water, electricity, etc.?

One of the most powerful provisions of the Code is that it vests nongovernmental organizations with the responsibility to help enforce the Code by monitoring the actions of corporations that produce and sell artificial baby milk, bottles, teats, etc. Ideally, governments will pass and enforce laws to require these companies to be Code compliant. But the Code recognizes that not all governments will cooperate, and so it empowers advocacy groups (like, say, La Leche League International) to be part of the solution by watching companies (like, say, Medela) and using whatever means they have at their disposal to pressure them to adhere to the Code.

The formula makers would absolutely love to get in good with the breastfeeding organizations around the world. Why? For the very same reasons that formula makers love to co-opt hospital maternity wards into their marketing plans. Any organization that works with mothers and babies and is seen as a trusted source on breastfeeding is powerfully attractive to formula makers. If they can somehow worm their marketing message into our educational materials ... or if they can get us to let them pay our bills, thereby gaining influence over what our materials say about their products ... they can sell more stuff AND hamstring their main competitor -- breastfeeding -- all at the same time.

Medela is just the latest example in almost 30 years of this little game. Nestle, Ross Labs, all the big formula makers, have been working this way for decades now. The people who wrote the Code knew it and the people who 28 years later are still trying to enforce the Code know it because they see it happening every day. Please don't let warm fuzzy feelings about Medela's excellent breastpumps blind you to this historical and global context.

Medela can sell its bottles and teats just fine without marketing them as stand-alone products in violation of the Code. They're not the victims here, and LLL is not the bad guy. Also, this is NOT about LLL or any other breastfeeding advocate pitting SAHMs against working-and-pumping mothers in North America. This is about babies dying unnecessarily in large numbers in most of the rest of the world.
post #7 of 107
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Originally Posted by onlygirls View Post
It makes me think that LLLI is living ina fantasy world where every Mom is a SAHM and there is no need to pump. We need better maternity leave in this country. Until then, there are companies like Medela who help women pump by selling a product. Yes, they are a business and I don't have any issue with them selling bottles and nipples. They are a BREAST pump comany, not a formula company.
I feel the same way. I EPed for my first son, and my second son is nursing great, but he still gets bottles while I'm at work. And even if I were able to be a SAHM (which isn't in our budget), I might STILL commit the terrible sin of going out on a date with my DH or spending a couple hours on my own, and still be able to have my kid eat.
post #8 of 107
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Originally Posted by KirstenMary View Post
I feel the same way. And I also look at is as Medela offering "replacements" for moms who have lost those items from the pump kit. Many times, I have ordered individual bottles, tubing, and other accessories because the ones that came with the pump were either lost or no longer worked. I never even thought of the WHO code.
I agree. I have used replacement parts lot of times. I even bought extra bottles to use so dh wouldn't have to wash them every night. I would have been rather irritated if I couldn't just buy extra bottles without the pump kit.
post #9 of 107
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Originally Posted by suebee79 View Post
I would have been rather irritated if I couldn't just buy extra bottles without the pump kit.
Medela wouldn't have to stop selling bottles separately from their pumps to be Code compliant. They would just have to stop advertising these stand-alone bottles directly to mothers, take photos of the bottles off of their packaging, and stop using language in advertisements that idealizes bottle-feeding.

Nobody here is proposing to remove your access to bottles.
post #10 of 107
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Medela can sell its bottles and teats just fine without marketing them as stand-alone products in violation of the Code. They're not the victims here, and LLL is not the bad guy. Also, this is NOT about LLL or any other breastfeeding advocate pitting SAHMs against working-and-pumping mothers in North America. This is about babies dying unnecessarily in large numbers in most of the rest of the world.
Exactly. I don't know if it's possible to get bottles/pump accessories anymore from companies who don't violate the code. LLL and ILCA should stand up for the WHO Code and not endorse companies who violate it. It's just disappointing to me when "good" companies fall prey to the breastmilk substitute world.
post #11 of 107
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Originally Posted by songbh View Post
Medela wouldn't have to stop selling bottles separately from their pumps to be Code compliant. They would just have to stop advertising these stand-alone bottles directly to mothers, take photos of the bottles off of their packaging, and stop using language in advertisements that idealizes bottle-feeding.

Nobody here is proposing to remove your access to bottles.
Can you give me an example of this?

Also, none of this bothers me, so I guess the WHO code violation is moot with me.
post #12 of 107
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Originally Posted by jocelynr View Post
Exactly. I don't know if it's possible to get bottles/pump accessories anymore from companies who don't violate the code. LLL and ILCA should stand up for the WHO Code and not endorse companies who violate it. It's just disappointing to me when "good" companies fall prey to the breastmilk substitute world.
As a mother who has been pumping and bottle-feeding breastmilk since 2003, I do not see it this way at all.
post #13 of 107
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Originally Posted by songbh View Post
... using language in advertisements that idealizes bottle-feeding
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Originally Posted by KirstenMary View Post
Can you give me an example of this?
There's a Medela American TV advertisement embedded in this Australia-focused blog entry on the topic. Part of the TV ad transcript reads:

"When you choose to breastfeed, you're doing what's best for your baby. When you choose Medela breastfeeding products, you're doing what's best for you both."

That second sentence of the narration is spoken over shots of a mother unscrewing the pump flange from a bottle, screwing a nipple onto the bottle, and putting the bottle into a refrigerator, with the Medela logo on the bottle prominent in all shots.

The context of the whole commercial is definitely idealizing -- gentle music, soft-focus; the two women are white, thin, well-dressed, smiling; the baby is white and younger than 6 months and smiling; the interior of the house shown is clean and elegantly furnished -- even the other items in the fridge remind me of upscale-brand groceries.

Code monitoring organizations report that idealized language has shown up in materials that Medela distributes to mothers as well. I don't have those to share as examples, but I trust the sources who report it to be true.

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Also, none of this bothers me, so I guess the WHO code violation is moot with me.
... OK ...
post #14 of 107
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Originally Posted by songbh View Post
There's a Medela American TV advertisement embedded in this Australia-focused blog entry on the topic. Part of the TV ad transcript reads:

"When you choose to breastfeed, you're doing what's best for your baby. When you choose Medela breastfeeding products, you're doing what's best for you both."

That second sentence of the narration is spoken over shots of a mother unscrewing the pump flange from a bottle, screwing a nipple onto the bottle, and putting the bottle into a refrigerator, with the Medela logo on the bottle prominent in all shots.

The context of the whole commercial is definitely idealizing -- gentle music, soft-focus; the two women are white, thin, well-dressed, smiling; the baby is white and younger than 6 months and smiling; the interior of the house shown is clean and elegantly furnished -- even the other items in the fridge remind me of upscale-brand groceries.

Code monitoring organizations report that idealized language has shown up in materials that Medela distributes to mothers as well. I don't have those to share as examples, but I trust the sources who report it to be true.



... OK ...
That is exactly what I do when I would prepare bottles of breastmilk for my daughters. I see no problem with that as not every mother gives their children breastmilk directly from the breast - thus the need for the pump. How would you have Medela revise the ad? Remove the bottles?
post #15 of 107
Wow, I just looked at the Medela ad... just wow...

When I first started reading this thread my thoughts were "What's the big deal... I need to buy my bottles separately sometimes." I was glad they were marketing bottles separately from kits. But after seeing that ad I have totally changed my opinion. That line about using Medela is "doing what's best for both of you" and then showing bottles just blew me away. I'm still kinda speechless. ITA with songbh - this ad is potentially damaging to the BFing relationship between mother and baby. It basically states that BFing is best for baby, but totally inconvinient for the Mom-on-the-go. Because no one wants to be with their baby 24/7 right?!?! RIGHT??? I mean that just creates dependent, whiny, little Mama's boys (or girls). The MODERN MOM needs to bottle-feed breastmilk, so she can continue her stylish, modern lifestyle without the inconviniece of having that baby around all the time.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, I don't know...

I do know two things: I'm glad LLLI will no longer be doing business with Medela. I belive it is a wise decision. I will also no longer be doing any business with Medela.
post #16 of 107
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Originally Posted by KirstenMary View Post
How would you have Medela revise the ad? Remove the bottles?
Yes. Exactly! You nailed it.

Don't show bottles or teats in advertising. Don't market (by which I mean advertise, not sell) anything related to bottle-feeding (regardless of what goes into the bottle) to the general public.

Not because I scorn mothers who use them (I don't), but because the Code requires it, for reasons which I outlined in my longer post above.
post #17 of 107
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I watched the advertisement and it didn't make me feel yucky inside. Sorry.

So the commercial appeals to "upscale" people. I think that if someone is low on cash, they aren't going to buy a Medela pump anyway.

I nursed my first 2 kids for 5 years before buying a pump (Ameda) with #3. (That was to donate milk) I don't think that I need a pump as a SAHM, but it is the norm in our culture. I hear it constantly at LLL meetings and I feel like every e-mail or phone call I get is about pumping.

I don't think anything is going to change my mind about this. The pump comes with bottles. Most babies who are fed EBM use bottles. But campanies are not supposed to market bottles? It doesn't make sense to me.
post #18 of 107
I couldn't care less, honestly.

Without my pump, my kid, who did not latch until 2 weeks would have been on formula. She would have been on formula when I went back to work at 3 months. The 3 children I pumped for would have had more formula than they did.

I pumped into bottles with nipples on them for work and for the adopted/sick mommy kids I pumped for.

I finger fed my lo for the two weeks, so I used a tube.

I think *more* advertising of the appropriate uses of bottles and other "stuff" of breastfeeding support (pillows, pumps, footstools) and comfort items for nursing mothers is only to the good.

My kids nursed well out of infancy. I found the LLL online info about pumping useful, but the attitude about WOH moms to be completely unhelpful.

Much like criticizing the only real source of affordable pumps that actually work for women who work and breastfeed.
post #19 of 107
I think some folks are missing that the issue is not pro-pump v. anti-pump. Code compliance can not be piecemeal. The term "idealize" is a term of art from the agreement so it only confuses the issue to try and place a common usage on it. It is probably best if people seek out the writings of Marsha Walker on this. She is responsible for documenting Code compliance in the U.S. and is very good at explaining the details of the Code - a complicated document.

I think a lot of people don't know that the WHO Code was written with the formula industry. Nestle agreed to its terms (which is why the boycott was suspended for a few years) and then was caught violating it.

Code compliance does not in any way interfere with the ability of women to pump, use pumps, purchase pumps, or gain access to the supplies they need (including bottles) to pump. It is all about marketing.
post #20 of 107
Songbh and Mamajake are completely right on this. The code is written for how the products are advertised (marketed) to the public. The writers of the code have no problem with women choosing to pump their breasts and giving all their milk by bottles. That wouldn't break the code whatsoever. What breaks the code is when companies use language or pictures to idealize bottle and teats (nipples) and formula. Studies have shown, time and again, how these advertisements alone can lower the incidence of women breastfeeding their babies.
Again, the code is not about how you chose to feed your baby (whether at breast or with a bottle. You could choose to give your baby artificial baby milk in a bottle and still that doesn't go against the code at all.)
It is when Companies directly advertise their bottles, teats, and artificial infant milk to parents (on TV, in magazines etc) they are breaking the code. Does that clarify this at all? If not, I agree with the PP read Marsha Walkers info. She writes on it clearly and eloquently. Or read some books on it such as The Politics of Breastfeeding etc.
While Medela makes wonderful products, I am hugely disappointed in them. They chose profit over morals in my estimation. Again, please know, if you use bottles for whatever reason, I am not in any way judging you or your decision. I am disappointed in the companies that flagrantly break the code.
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