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1 pack of pampers = 1 tetanus vaccine

post #1 of 152
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Just thought I'd post this here in case any of you all buy sposies. Apparently for each pack of pampers (specially market) bought, they will donate one tetanus vaccine to unicef

http://www.pampers.com/en_US/childre...ound-the-world
post #2 of 152
There is a thread on the "I'm Not Vaccinating" that is similar to this one.Asking if non-vaxers buy pampers or not because of this.
post #3 of 152
I'm not sure how I feel about this honestly. It makes my stomach turn when I see that ad, but it may be that the shots are better than no shots in their situation.
post #4 of 152
Here's an old thread from last fall about this

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=980140
post #5 of 152
Because of the living conditions and the fact that many mother can't BF because of husbands who think its bad for their sex life : and that there are questionable hygene practices, I have to say I think for these moms the Vaccines ARE better then the alternative.

For them tetnus is a fact of live and many children die a horrible painful death because of it.

When I bye disposibles we buy Pampers.

The ability to choose vaccinations is a privilage of where we live and the differences in that. These people really do need it. I don't get the tetnus for my girls (but will if I feel its needed) but they are not at the same risk level as these babies.

Anyone ever see the special? where the little 5 week old dies on camera? Scar tactic or not, its a fact of life for those moms. No mother deserves that.
post #6 of 152
I may have the facts wrong, but I think there was a study showing that when vaccinated people get things like tetanus, the body doesn't make as many antibiodies as it should in response. I think the gist of it was that vaccines affect the body's sensitivity toward these germs, diminishing the response. I wish I could remember where I read it so I could link it... i'll have to look around.
post #7 of 152
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Originally Posted by buttercupmama View Post
I may have the facts wrong, but I think there was a study showing that when vaccinated people get things like tetanus, the body doesn't make as many antibiodies as it should in response. I think the gist of it was that vaccines affect the body's sensitivity toward these germs, diminishing the response. I wish I could remember where I read it so I could link it... i'll have to look around.
The mother's in these cases are getting inoculated during pregnancy thus protecting the baby after birth.
post #8 of 152
Neonatal tetanus is caused by unsanitary birthing/post-partum conditions - the umbilical stump gets infected shortly after birth and that is how the baby becomes infected. It's almost always fatal, and a leading cause of infant death in developing countries. My SIL worked in Mali, it's quite prevalent there.

I'm no vaxxer myself, but as a PP mentioned vaccinating women of child bearing age will give the infant enough passive immunity to prevent neonatal tetanus (it won't prevent tetanus down the road tho, from what I understand).

I can understand a negative reaction to a vaccine-promoting commercial (esp a sposie one! ) but here is a case where I think a vaccine does more good than harm.
post #9 of 152
I always wonder if Pampers is also teaching these people that the way they treat the cord stump is a major cause of the neonatal tetanus. I would find this program a lot more respectable if they were also teaching them how to care for their children and not just doling out vaccines.
post #10 of 152
Yep, I'm a non-vaxer but I agree with this program. IMO we are priviledged to have the choice to not vax. If we did not have clean water, good food, no decent medical care/hospitals, and poor sanitation I would rethink my vax status for sure.
post #11 of 152
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I always wonder if Pampers is also teaching these people that the way they treat the cord stump is a major cause of the neonatal tetanus. I would find this program a lot more respectable if they were also teaching them how to care for their children and not just doling out vaccines.
It's not that easy....We must be careful though not to come in being too ethnocentric in these cases. It will take a lot of time to dis spell rituals and beliefs in these communities.
post #12 of 152
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It's not that easy....We must be careful though not to come in being too ethnocentric in these cases. It will take a lot of time to dis spell rituals and beliefs in these communities.
And giving a vaccine does not interfere with their rituals at all? Seems to me that if they weren't giving the shot before, and now they are, then the ritual has been altered. Why not explain basic sanitation for newborns?
post #13 of 152
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Originally Posted by KimberlyD0 View Post
Because of the living conditions and the fact that many mother can't BF because of husbands who think its bad for their sex life : and that there are questionable hygene practices, I have to say I think for these moms the Vaccines ARE better then the alternative.

For them tetnus is a fact of live and many children die a horrible painful death because of it.

When I bye disposibles we buy Pampers.

The ability to choose vaccinations is a privilage of where we live and the differences in that. These people really do need it. I don't get the tetnus for my girls (but will if I feel its needed) but they are not at the same risk level as these babies.

Anyone ever see the special? where the little 5 week old dies on camera? Scar tactic or not, its a fact of life for those moms. No mother deserves that.
I absolutely agree.
post #14 of 152
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Originally Posted by emma1325 View Post
And giving a vaccine does not interfere with their rituals at all? Seems to me that if they weren't giving the shot before, and now they are, then the ritual has been altered. Why not explain basic sanitation for newborns?
Its not that simple. In some cases there is NO alternative. Untill you've lived in compleat poverty you can't know what its like.

The only ritual changed here is the unintentional one, the one where these babies die horrible, and painful deaths that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

These Mothers LOVE their babies just as much as you and I. They simply live a VERY different life. Saying their blood is on their hands, or its their own fault, as I have read some people say, its downright nasty and unexceptable. These people don't know any better, it takes time for that. NO mother deserves to see their baby die. EVER.

In many of these situations, clean water is just not avalible, clean medical equitment isn't avalible, often times there is no doctors availible, many live in single room dwellings where animals can easily go. There is no sanitation avalible.

Yes education should and is done. But thing can not be done over night. Untill the poverty these people live in is eliminated vaccinations are their best hope for their children to live.

For them the risk of the desease is a lot worse then the risk of a vaccine. This is how it once was here too. But we don't remember that because poverty like this is not often seen in our countries (I say that cause I am not from the US)
post #15 of 152
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Originally Posted by KimberlyD0 View Post
Because of the living conditions and the fact that many mother can't BF because of husbands who think its bad for their sex life : and that there are questionable hygene practices, I have to say I think for these moms the Vaccines ARE better then the alternative.

For them tetnus is a fact of live and many children die a horrible painful death because of it.

When I bye disposibles we buy Pampers.

The ability to choose vaccinations is a privilage of where we live and the differences in that. These people really do need it. I don't get the tetnus for my girls (but will if I feel its needed) but they are not at the same risk level as these babies.

Anyone ever see the special? where the little 5 week old dies on camera? Scar tactic or not, its a fact of life for those moms. No mother deserves that.
Agreed. We are on an alternative vax schedule, but we can do that only because we live in a country where theses diseases are not endemic and we have access to clean water and health care.
post #16 of 152
I buy Pampers for both of my diapered babies just so each time there's 2 more babies out there that might live past their 1st birthday. I am so privileged to live in a house with clean water, have given birth in a clean, safe hospital and not have to worry about these kinds of things.
post #17 of 152
Did you guys see now you can donate your pamper points?

1 point = 1 vaccine. I donated 156 today. Thats 156 babies that wont have to suffer this terrible fate.
post #18 of 152
So the vax is given to mom while pg so the baby gets the immunity after birth? Because DTaP isnt safe to give before the baby is 2 months old and by that point there is no danger from the cord any longer.

Or am I missing something here?
post #19 of 152
Two shots are given to mom during pregnancy which protects baby for 6 months after birth.
post #20 of 152
I didnt get that from the commercials thank you for clarifying. I was so confused.
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