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post #41 of 46
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Originally Posted by Benji'sMom View Post
This is exaclty what I was thinking too. My eyes were opened when my STBX stopped paying child support. (Or maybe he will eventually pay it, but that would still make it sporadic and definitely NOT reliable.) Even if I go to support enforcement and get a garnishment, he could quit his job. I mean there's absolutely no way to guarantee a steady income from child support. And this is a man who ALWAYS portrayed himself as a man of principle who would live up to responsability, etc. You see how that changed so easily once he left us. I absolutely have to rely on myself and no one else.
This actually happened to a dear friend of mine, when they first split he paid his CS religiously then he stopped. So she went to support enforecement and DHS for help and he changed jobs :, he purposely changed jobs so he was making almost 50K less. So now he is paying again but its not much and my friend is in a rough place. The only reason she is surviving is that her new partner helps out.

This is a woman who when they split after 14 years of marriage swore her ex would never do that sort of thing, so long story short I would be hesitant to depend on child support. In our state they factored in the fact that the father was paying health insurance on the kids and really what she gets to live on is not much at all.
post #42 of 46
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Originally Posted by ccohenou View Post
I understand what you're saying, in that working full time "for 10K" doesn't feel great. But, $10K can absolutely be the difference between poverty and solvency.

If your earnings are pretty low at first, you may qualify for childcare assistance or sliding-scale tuition, def. look for this.
Also, not to sound like a broken record, but if you get annual increases (not happening this year for people in a lot of industries I know), it's 10k this year, 10.5k the next, and so on. As kids get older the daycare costs go down too. It's also about staying current in your career.

Obviously the decision is really personal and depends on people's industries, careers, etc. In my case taking say 5 years off could easily mean not just losing out on increases in responsibility and salary, but actually having to start over lower on the ladder - so getting say $10k less than I was making before having kids. You add all that up and I would lose:

$10k per year out - $50k
$10k per year going forward that I otherwise would have been earning - say another 5 yrs at a lower salary; $50k
That's $100k I'm out before I get into increases and promotions. Not to mention that if one invests the $10k "extra" then there's more return.

It's complex. OP, just tossing ideas out there - you obviously are in a tough situation and whatever you decide I'm sure will be ok.
post #43 of 46
Well, personally I make mad cash doing what I do - so nope, there's no way I'd give up my career/profession.

Like Seasons I'd never intended one way or the other to WOH or SAH, it was kind of yanked away.

I'm a single mom too, and while I get support it doesn't even cover my mortgage let alone everything else.
post #44 of 46
Working F/T is absolutely worth it for me. I have to pay for afterschool care for two kids. Next year that drops down to one kid. Other than that, it really doesn't cost me anything more to work. I don't spend more on food, gas or clothes. I freeze meals so that I'm not tempted to go out to eat, and I always bring my lunch.

I was recently on sabbatical for 6 months, and found that if anything, I tended to spend more when not working because I had more time to shop. I also found that I really didn't keep the house much cleaner when I was home more.

In addtion to my salary, my benefits are good. I don't pay much for very excellent heath insurance, and I'm saving for retirement. There would also be the opportunity cost to my career if I didn't work. Many women don't take these things into account when doing the work/non-work equation.
post #45 of 46
I just read through this thread, and I think that is can all be summed up with "it really depends on your situation." For example, I can totally see working fewer hours, if possible, so that after-school care is not necessary, could lead to a net gain in income. Now for my long-winded 2 cents (feel free to ignore).

I'd have to agree with some pp's in being cautious about relying totally on child support. Though I am not divorced, I have too may friends who are and who get zero help from an ex to be comfortable with that arrangement. Besides the penchant for many men to turn into (expletive) after divorce, there is always the risk, in this economy, of job loss.

I do want to chime in and say that aside form child care, I think the monetary costs of working are often overstated. For example--clothing. I work in about as formal a setting as you can think. I wear suits, heels, and hose every day. However, those are are by and large intermittent costs. So when I began working, I spent about $1,500 on suits and shoes. Now I spend about $30 a month on panty hose and dry cleaning. I will probably spend an average of $300 per year of new suits and blouses. In almost any job that requires formal dress, the salary is going to justify the expense. In addition, I require far few casual clothes. I wear the same two things after work and on weekends over and over.

Another thing that is over-stated in the "tax" issue. Of course, as your salary increases, so does your marginal tax bracket. However, this only applies to the top percentages of your income. Therefore, if a person makes $10,000 or $100,000, that first $10,000 is still taxed at the same rate. The thing to be cautious about is reaching an income tax level that will make you ineligible for certain benefits, like earned income credit. In general, for 2008, a working parent of two can make up to about $39,000 per year. But even the amount of the credit varies according to wages earned. As you earn more and more, you will be eligible for fewer and fewer deductions. The big one for me is ineligibility for student loan interest deduction. However, I cannot think of a single incident in which a deduction would be more than wages earned.

I also want to pipe up with another reason to work. I know people may disagree, and that is fine. Everyone has their own experience, and I am not judging anyone's choices. However, personally, I feel so much better about myself if I am supporting myself. My mother stayed home with us, and we were poor. We always lived in crappy rentals, had to use food stamps and get free lunch at school. I never, ever got new clothes. I had to go deep into debt to fund college and grad school. My mother was always depressed. My parents fought about money all the time. Those wonderful homemade meals my mom had time to make because she stayed home consisted of the cheapest possible, unhealthy food. Believe me, there is not a day that goes by that I don't wish I could stay at home with my kids. I do not particularly love my job. OK, I hate it. But I know my kids are better off with me working.

As I said though, everyone's experience is different. It all depends on whether you are married, the age of your children, what jobs you are qualified to do, etc. etc..
post #46 of 46
My job was absolutely financially valuable. Even with paying for p/t preschool.
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