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post #21 of 66
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Originally Posted by nextcommercial View Post
So, I looked out front, to see if they had gone out there. I saw a bunch of blood leading across the street, and a puddle of blood in front of the garage door. (there's an alarm keypad on the garage door for the kids to get in and out of)
this is all it would take for me to call 911
post #22 of 66
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Originally Posted by chel View Post
this is all it would take for me to call 911
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Oh, if you ever need to call 911 for an adult and they come back and complain, just remind them that it was *their* choice to get into the ambulance.
post #23 of 66
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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
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Oh, if you ever need to call 911 for an adult and they come back and complain, just remind them that it was *their* choice to get into the ambulance.
Agreed, you are allowed to refuse care!



I would have been terrified. Like a PP said, maybe it was just how the mom processed the scene and information? I don't know... taking into consideration that the parents are divorced and she doesn't have them full time maybe she thought she would get blamed somehow or it would look bad on her in the future if she wanted full custody?
post #24 of 66
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this is all it would take for me to call 911
eh, if I knew the family well, I might just put the kid in my car and take her to the hospital myself. It would probably get her there quicker, and while this was certainly serious and scary, it doesn't sound life-threatening IMO, and so a 911 call and ambulance weren't absolutely necessary.

I don't mean to second guess the OP-- just suggest that we don't need to call 911 every time a kid gets hurt and bleeds a lot.

ZM
post #25 of 66
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Originally Posted by zeldamomma View Post
eh, if I knew the family well, I might just put the kid in my car and take her to the hospital myself. It would probably get her there quicker, and while this was certainly serious and scary, it doesn't sound life-threatening IMO, and so a 911 call and ambulance weren't absolutely necessary.

I don't mean to second guess the OP-- just suggest that we don't need to call 911 every time a kid gets hurt and bleeds a lot.

ZM
But the OP said she runs a daycare and couldn't leave all those kids. IMO- the OP didn't have any other choice than to call 911 when nobody could reach a parent.
post #26 of 66
Are you kidding me? This sounds like a situation where calling 911 is the smartest option!!! I would have done it in a heartbeat.
Poor little girl...obviously this sort of thing could happen even with parental supervision. What makes it so scary to me is that other children were 'in charge' of the situation when it actually happened. I think the OP made it clear that she wasn't in the position to go physically see what happened, and since the girl's parents weren't availble or able to be reached she did the right thing.
This is NOT a case of overreaction. What if the girl, upset and without her parents, had fallen and gotten hurt worse? Bleeding all over with a broken jaw is pretty darn serious. Or what if the children she was swimming with did nothing to help, just gave her a towel. Then...when the situation did turn life-threatening, would it be okay to call 911?

I know that if it were my child I'd be thankful to anyone who looked out for my hurt baby. IMO the mother acted irrationally in a very wrong way. I've been known to panic a bit in a crisis but always on the side of over-worrying about my babies. I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would worry about the d*mn ambulance before their child. Wacked.
post #27 of 66
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I know that if it were my child I'd be thankful to anyone who looked out for my hurt baby. IMO the mother acted irrationally in a very wrong way. I've been known to panic a bit in a crisis but always on the side of over-worrying about my babies. I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would worry about the d*mn ambulance before their child. Wacked.
Yup.

My son is 13, my little girl is 8, about the ages of the children in this story. It makes me realize that, even though they are "older" kids, they're really still just babies at that age and the whole situation could have ended up very tragic, if the original poster hadn't heard the commotion and called 911.
post #28 of 66
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Originally Posted by StephandOwen View Post
But the OP said she runs a daycare and couldn't leave all those kids. IMO- the OP didn't have any other choice than to call 911 when nobody could reach a parent.
I'm not even the one who called 911. I didn't go over there at all. I looked outside, then called another neighbor and she went over. She called 911 because the little girl couldn't close her mouth and it was bleeding on the inside and outside of her mouth.

The little girl is doing great. Bruised, has stitches, and will still need some dental surgery for a while, but otherwise, she's doing well.

We haven't seen ANY of the kids all week after that incident. Not one single kid. I think they've all been sold.
post #29 of 66
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We haven't seen ANY of the kids all week after that incident. Not one single kid. I think they've all been sold.
To help pay for the ambulance bill. I'm glad she's doing great. Poor baby.
post #30 of 66
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Originally Posted by zeldamomma View Post
eh, if I knew the family well, I might just put the kid in my car and take her to the hospital myself.
If you don't know the family well, or they didn't think they knew you as well as you know them, you'd be setting yourself up for a kidnapping charge.
post #31 of 66
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Nevermind.
post #32 of 66
Kinda makes me wonder what kind of a parent this woman is....
post #33 of 66
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Originally Posted by philomom View Post
She doesn't say where she is.. but the owners of the "pool house" could be in trouble with the law for having left kids unsupervised. I'd check her state laws and consider calling CPS.
I don't think that is a situation that warrents CPS. They are a last resort for very serious abuse or neglect cases, imo.
post #34 of 66
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Originally Posted by StephandOwen View Post
But the OP said she runs a daycare and couldn't leave all those kids. IMO- the OP didn't have any other choice than to call 911 when nobody could reach a parent.
I'm still catching up, but I would not want the liability of taking a child to the hospital without a parent's okay. No way!!! Calling 911 makes the most sense in this case.

I'm so sad for the little girl and am glad she'll be okay. I am also glad their mom is as absent as she is because she sounds like a lunatic.
post #35 of 66
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Originally Posted by Talula Fairie View Post
I don't think that is a situation that warrents CPS. They are a last resort for very serious abuse or neglect cases, imo.
ITA. But I do think that the pool house is probably liable for the costs of the medical treatment. Their homeowner's policy should cover it.
post #36 of 66
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ITA. But I do think that the pool house is probably liable for the costs of the medical treatment. Their homeowner's policy should cover it.
The pool house dad offered before the other dad could ask.

The situation doesn't need CPS. It was a dumb idea that a bunch of kids thought up. They would have gotten caught even if the little girl hadn't gotten hurt. Because the cool decking was still wet at 5:30 when the mom came home. She obviously would have looked at all the water and wet towels and assumed they were swimming.

That particular accident probably would have happened even with parents in the pool because she was jumping in and being goofy. Nobody tells them "no horseplay" when the adults are there. It's just one of those things that happened.

But, the mom was way over the top of anything I would consider normal. It was almost like she wanted to be noticed and went too far.
post #37 of 66
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Originally Posted by veganone View Post
ITA. But I do think that the pool house is probably liable for the costs of the medical treatment. Their homeowner's policy should cover it.
I don't think this is a case of someone being at fault legally speaking. The homeowner thought their child would not break the rules. Yeah, I agree that it's not a great idea to leave a child that age home alone, but I don't think they are then liable for something their child did which they are clearly upset about and punishing him for.

Should we, as parents, really be liable for every mistake our children make? At what age are we not liable anymore?
post #38 of 66
I think that if it were the child of one of my best friends and I couldn't reach them I'd definitely take them to the ER myself (because I would want one of them to do it for my child - my children know and trust all of my friends). So I can understand that way of thinking, for sure! If it's a family from down the street, I would have been freaked out about things like seatbelts or carseats or whether my child was afraid and wondering where this person was taking them.
post #39 of 66
WOW! You definitely did the right thing calling 911! And if it were my kid I would be thanking you for helping her and getting to her asap. Weird. But didn't you know...third graders are the new teenagers? I see I was wrong, that you weren't the one calling 911 but you still helped a lot..and I would be thanking you and ANYONE ELSE that might have helped.
post #40 of 66
No one should leave their third grader at home alone, but people do, and my mother always did, although I'd say it was more like fourth and fifth grade that I became a total latch key kid. It's really too bad and not a great way to grow up, especially for an only child. I wouldn't let my own kids do that. But at the same time, I don't think it's CPS or sue-the-parents worthy either.
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