question about thrush treatment

[KD's Momma]

I posted about a friend who was having nipple pain and cracks -which along with other friends we believe is due to thrush. I have talked to her about gentian violet and GSE. Though someone else began telling her that GSE was not good for thrush because it shouldn't be used internally. Here is what was posted and I am wondering if anyone has heard of this or if this is misinfo.

TIA


I used to be a Grapefruit Seed Extract user, and bought into the myth of its
"natural" claim.
I would use it in my Veggie Wash and household cleaners, used it for the
throat gargles, etc -
until I really studied what GSE is. I still use it for my household cleaner
recipes.
But I cannot in good conscious advocate it for internal use, especially with
a baby!

First, GSE is NOT natural. It is not made from grapefruit essential oil,
nor is it solely made from crushed
grapefruit seed. As my dear friend Trina (a chemist) says, "Chemical
manufacturers take the leftover grapefruit pulp, a waste by-product from
grapefruit juice production, and in an intensive, multi-step industrial
chemical process, change the natural phenolic compounds into synthetic
quaternary ammonium compounds (Ebony's note: Benzethonium Chloride, which is
a Class 2 poison because of its teratogenicity - does this sound natural to
you?). Typically, in chemical synthesis of this type, chemical reagents and
catalysts are used under extreme high heat and pressure or vacuum (Ebony's
note: some of of the chemicals found in GSE are parabens and triclosan).
Synthetic ammonium chloride is one of the chemical catalysts used in this
process."

Besides the chemical composition of GSE, there's the problem that GSE poses
by 1) inhibiting the
absorption of various proteins, and 2) being an endocrine disruptor.

[xelakann]

I don't know if that is misinfo, but I didn't use it internally for thrush I would put it on my nipples after a nursing session.

I found it didn't work well for me. Gentian Violet did and really well on some really bad diaper rashes... but again topical (except I did use a teeny bit in my baby's mouth when the thrush was THAT bad).

[jecombs]

I find this odd because Dr. Jack Newman recommends GSE for the treatment of thrush. He advises taking it internally, in capsule form. I have emailed him in the past and he actually responded to my questions! Here is a link to his website. If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you'll see a "contact us" link to click. Dr. Newman may be able to answer your question.

I hope you'll post again if you get a response from him. I'll be interested to hear his take on those statements.

[walking burp cloth]

I don't know about the info you have there. I use it internally myself. I tried it (amongst other things) when me and my LO had thrush. We had it for 2 months, and what finally did the trick for us was the gentian violet.

[talia rose]

when i dealt with thrush and recurrent mastitis as a result, i finally realized i had to address the underlying cause of a candida imbalance in both my and my baby's bodies. i changed my diet, as much as a nursing mama can, and did probiotics. i chose threelac because it claimed to work without too much dietary restrictions. it took about 6 weeks but i finally got back into balance.

as a doula i always caution against giving into the cravings for sweet while pregnant. it is so easy for our bodies to go out of balance and so hard to get back into balance once they do. i gave in fully to my sweet cravings and ultimately the candida and thrush (and over 100 clogged ducts as a result) hurt my milk supply and i ended up having to supplement which was a huge bummer for me.