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Vaccines and minimally responsive babies

post #1 of 37
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Ds is 8 months old and ever since he was born, we have been getting the same remark over and over about him from different folks here and there that we come in contact with. (Especially random strangers at stores and such) They comment on how 'alert' he is and how strong his eye contact and focus is.... like he is really studying their faces. At first I thought, that's odd, what are most babies, unresponsive? ds is the only baby I have really ever been around so I have nothing to compare him to. We got the comment again yesterday from a neighbor and it got me wondering if it has anything to do with the fact that he has never received any vaccines? Am I really off the wall here, or is it possible that the majority of babies out there are not so 'alert' because most of them have been vaxed over and over again? Has anyone had any experience in this area or witnessed what I am describing?
post #2 of 37
My DS was pretty alert, but he also never slept much either. He's never been vaxed.
post #3 of 37
I get the exact same comments from friends/strangers about DS. He is not vaxed either.
post #4 of 37
People say the same thing about DD, who is completely unvaxed. I count on hearing it at least once per outing. They always say the same thing ... "Oh, she's so alert!"

Her up-to-date vaxed cousin of the same age is much, much less responsive/interested in the world.
post #5 of 37
I always attributed my DS's "alertness" to being worn significantly. As opposed to car seats and strollers.
post #6 of 37
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Am I really off the wall here, or is it possible that the majority of babies out there are not so 'alert' because most of them have been vaxed over and over again? Has anyone had any experience in this area or witnessed what I am describing?
You're really off the wall here. I get that comment all the time about both my children and they're both vaxed up the wazoo. Must make the MMR appointment for #2, now that I think of it.
post #7 of 37
I've never noticed a correlation.
post #8 of 37
My son was constantly getting comments about how engaging he was, from infancy onward, and he was completely vaccinated on schedule. My daughter is, well, less socially engaging (she has her daddy's antisocial tendencies ), but no less alert or bright, and she was fully vaxed until 12 months when we started delaying.

I think it has to do with inborn temperament more than anything else. Second to inborn temperament is probably how a child is interacted with by parents and caregivers. If they are constantly talked to and engaged in their surroundings, they would be more likely to seek it out, KWIM?
post #9 of 37
Ugh everyone says that. I've come to hate it. In fact, the conversation inevitably goes:

"OMG look at her! She's huge! And look at how alert she is!"

"Yeah, she likes to explore."

"How old is she?"

"X months"

"No, really? Are you sure? She's so alert! She's so big!"

No, lady, man, teen whoever you are...obviously my kid is much older and I'm lying to you. Gah

I never thought about it in the context of vaccines. I bet it is really a culmination of things...personally I thought the biggest factor was breastfeeding over formula and baby cereal.
post #10 of 37
I think that's just one of the standard things people say about babies. It's like there's a script out there that everybody follows.
post #11 of 37
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My son was constantly getting comments about how engaging he was, from infancy onward, and he was completely vaccinated on schedule.
Mine too.

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I think it has to do with inborn temperament more than anything else. Second to inborn temperament is probably how a child is interacted with by parents and caregivers. If they are constantly talked to and engaged in their surroundings, they would be more likely to seek it out, KWIM?
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post #12 of 37
My DS is only 5 weeks old, but I can tell a significant difference between him and my DD (20 months old) who was (regretably) vacciated from birth. The differences I notice are in their awake time. His is more looking around and just "chilling out". Hers was screaming. Lots of screaming. I think she screamed the first two months of her life.
post #13 of 37
DD (now three) was vaccinated on the regular (non-delayed) schedule and everyone always commented on how alert she was. I thought it might be because she was born big (9.5 pounds) and was able to hold her head up really well because of it.
post #14 of 37
My first is fully vaxed and my second is not and there really isn't any difference. Except dd2 is less outgoing and spends most of her time trying to get ahold of her thumbs to suck. She also sleeps way more, and will go to sleep most of the time if we are out and about. Once dd1 got over her preemie issues, she was a total social butterfly and wanted to interact with anybody and everybody. I think it is personality, not vaxing.
post #15 of 37
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You're really off the wall here. I get that comment all the time about both my children and they're both vaxed up the wazoo.
That sounds really uncomfortable. When I was a kid, they gave us our shots in the thigh or arm.
post #16 of 37
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That sounds really uncomfortable. When I was a kid, they gave us our shots in the thigh or arm.

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post #17 of 37
people *always* say that about ds--4.5 mos old--fully vaxed
post #18 of 37
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I think that's just one of the standard things people say about babies. It's like there's a script out there that everybody follows.
yup. i say it all the time.
post #19 of 37
I think there are occasional babies who are actually hurt by vaccines and may, therefore, be less alert. But most healthy, breastfed babies will not have obvious differences between vaxed and unvaxed.

I do remember being struck by the intensity of my granddaughter's gaze when she was a baby. She was a very intense looker, especially at people. She would also sit bolt upright in her stroller. I think she had delusions of imperial descent or something. Very intimidating child.

Fortunately her younger brother is an easy-going character. Two like that in one family would have been way too much.
post #20 of 37
My unvaxed 4 month old has been like this since day 3. She's super chill and super "alert" as in she has always been interested in people and really makes eye contact. She has very little interest in toys but is mesmerized by anyone just standing nearby (right now she's really into hands and mouths). I think it is one of those common baby compliments though.
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