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post #621 of 654
7/13/10 at 4:14pm
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Originally Posted by Barbie64g View Post
This is explained in Breaking Dawn. And I havent even read the book.
Thanks!

I am intending to read the series now because I liked the films so much. I've heard there are many answers in Breaking Dawn.
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post #622 of 654
7/13/10 at 4:20pm
I think that my favorite character in the movies is Charlie, Bella's dad. Actually, both Bella's parents seem really great.

I really liked how Charlie explained marriage to Bella, and how he said it worked out for Bella's mom later in life, and said it in a way that made you feel like he held no malice for his ex-wife. I think the way the Charlie character is portrayed in the films is just excellent.



I also like Edward's parents...was that longing for a child of their own that they would never have when they offered amnesty to the young vampire they found during the battle?

My other favorite character is Alice.

And, lastly, I wondered why on the mountain top, Jacob couldn't say to Edward that they would be friends under different circumstances when Edward said that to Jacob.

One last question - someone mentioned earlier how on the mountain top in the book, Jacob tricks Bella into kissing him, but that is portrayed differently in the film. But Edward sort of tricks Bella into saying they're getting married when Bella thinks Jacob has left but Edward knows Jacob can still hear them.

So, both Edward and Jacob weren't very truthful in those two circumstances.
post #623 of 654
7/13/10 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by That Is Nice View Post
I think that my favorite character in the movies is Charlie, Bella's dad. Actually, both Bella's parents seem really great.
The part in Twilight where Bellas tells Charlie Edwards is right outside, (While hes cleaning his shot gun) and he quickly jerks the gun back into position. She tells him to be nice, and he makes the omnicant "heres my halo" ring around his head. CRACKS.ME.UP every time I see it. That guys a hoot.
post #624 of 654
7/13/10 at 4:49pm
I have become sadly re-addicted to this whole Twilight mess.

....and loving every minute of it.
post #625 of 654
7/13/10 at 7:03pm
Yes, That is Nice, Edward says that he and Bella are getting married and has Bella confirm it while Jacob can still hear them. Edward knows that Jacob can hear them but Jacob is still eavesdropping on a private conversation. I can't hold this against Edward very much (of course I am completely Team Edward.) Jacob however tells Bella that he's going to kill himself in battle if she doesn't ask him to kiss her. This is slightly more manipulative. Also the kiss is much more intense in the book than in the movie (and much better done in the book.) Following is how the movie and book differentiate on the kissing scene. I put in spoiler tags in case you don't want to know before you read it.
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In the movie she asks him and they then have a nice sweet kiss. In the book she asks him, but still just stands there while he keeps kissing her with passion, then he says, "Are you sure you want me to come back? Or did you really want me to die?" That really ticks her off so she tries to pull his hair because her hands are already around his neck. He takes this for passion and responds with such joy that she lets down her guard for a minute and starts kissing him back just as passionately as he is kissing her. Then they end with a sweet kiss. Wow I love this scene.

I think that you're lucky! If you've enjoyed the movies, you'll love the books. Books can always give insights that a movie just can't. Enjoy reading them. Maybe I'll just have to join you and read them again! haha
post #626 of 654
7/13/10 at 7:12pm
As for Jacob's feelings for Edward.
Edward doesn't like that Jacob is trying to steal Bella and he thinks that young werewolves are unsafe. BUT he knows that Jacob loves Bella and would take good care of her.
Jacob is a werewolf (or shapeshifter, it will come out in Breaking Dawn at least the book) who's sole purpose is to kill vampires. Edward would fight a werewolf to protect himself but he's not drawn to kill them like the wolves are. Jacob's normal human existence has been taken away from him by the presence of the vampires. When Jacob meets up with Bella again, she is a MESS and it is because of the pain that Edward has caused her. Edward is going to turn the love of his life into a vampire which will make her his natural enemy as well. There's just too much for Jacob to get past. Even with no Bella, Jacob's being would want to kill Edward.

Thanks for allowing us to discuss Twilight. My family (dh and three young ds) don't enjoy these discussions so much!
post #627 of 654
7/14/10 at 7:45am
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Originally Posted by KYCat View Post
Yes, That is Nice, Edward says that he and Bella are getting married and has Bella confirm it while Jacob can still hear them. Edward knows that Jacob can hear them but Jacob is still eavesdropping on a private conversation. I can't hold this against Edward very much (of course I am completely Team Edward.) Jacob however tells Bella that he's going to kill himself in battle if she doesn't ask him to kiss her. This is slightly more manipulative. Also the kiss is much more intense in the book than in the movie (and much better done in the book.) Following is how the movie and book differentiate on the kissing scene. I put in spoiler tags in case you don't want to know before you read it.
Warning :: Spoiler Ahead! Highlight to read message!
In the movie she asks him and they then have a nice sweet kiss. In the book she asks him, but still just stands there while he keeps kissing her with passion, then he says, "Are you sure you want me to come back? Or did you really want me to die?" That really ticks her off so she tries to pull his hair because her hands are already around his neck. He takes this for passion and responds with such joy that she lets down her guard for a minute and starts kissing him back just as passionately as he is kissing her. Then they end with a sweet kiss. Wow I love this scene.

I think that you're lucky! If you've enjoyed the movies, you'll love the books. Books can always give insights that a movie just can't. Enjoy reading them. Maybe I'll just have to join you and read them again! haha
Thanks so much!

Yes, I started the books yesterday, after seeing Eclipse the film earlier in the week and Twilight and New Moon in June.

I really like the films, as campy as they are. I mean, they're not Oscar nominees, but the story is compelling and most of the acting pretty good. And, of course, the scenery is breathtaking.

Anna Kendrick, as an actress, though, is very, very good in these films, as she is in everything I've seen her in, despite having such a small part. I also think the actress who plays Alice does a very good job.

I have other questions now that I've begun reading the books (out of order). I started with Breaking Dawn, since it was the one I got first from the library.

I keep going back and forth between Team Edward and Team Jacob. I want them both to be happy and at peace. But Edward definitely seems more mature and restrained than Jacob...but then he's much older.

I do like both Robert Pattinson and Taylor Lautner as actors (and the Team Edward / Team Jacob inside jokes in Eclipse were funny). I recently rented Remember Me and that is a very good film, too, with the exception of the ending. It's actually one of the best romance movies I've seen, I think, with very good character development of the relationship. I'll be interested to see what future in film these actors have.
post #628 of 654
7/14/10 at 7:53am

Breaking Dawn and suspension of belief that a vampire can impregnate/would be fertile

I am really starting to love the Twilight series, which is sort of out of my usual genres, but I liked the films and am arriving very late in reading the books.

I've begun reading Breaking Dawn...and for some hard to explain reason it just seems to me a bigger leap in logic to believe that a vampire could impregnate a human (how exactly does that work from a fertilization standpoint?) than it is to believe that vampires and shape-shifters exist.

I don't know...I'm still going to read the book completely before passing judgement, but the explanation that female vampires such as Esme and Rosalie can not have children, as much as they want to, because as vampires they are stuck in time, not able to change, as a human woman would do during pregnancy, but that male vampires such as Edward could have children because human males do not change at all during pregnancy just sort of...well, isn't logical, right?

Also, one big glaring question I have is where do the Cullens get all their money?? The book goes into great detail about the wealth, and I realize that Carlisle is a doctor, but he's a doctor in a small town, and he's also supporting financially six other vampires and now Bella. Exclusive, not yet available Mercedes? Their own Isle Esme? A house already purchased at Dartmouth? Ivy League tuition for two people? That's more than a small town doctor would likely be able to provide for a family of seven.

I guess one thing that I like about Bella is that she seems equally at ease and not to notice the financial differences between Jacob and Edward, which were even more played up in Eclipse the film than the earlier film installments.

And, I absolutely love the Charlie character. I want a dad like Charlie for myself.

I do think the book is a little bit preachy about pre-marital relations (not necessarily a bad thing, I suppose, for the target audience). But, goodness, Bella's honeymoon interest in and pursuit of the subject is a bit over the top, even for a young woman who waited until marriage. Someone else pointed out how vampires, historically, have been known for their lust, so Edward certainly is a different sort of vampire than history has presented.
post #629 of 654
7/14/10 at 9:55am
That Is Nice, I can't remember if this was in one of the 4 books or in Midnight Sun, but somewhere they talk about Alice playing the stock market for/with them. That whole future seeing thing would sure be nice, in that respect!
post #630 of 654
7/14/10 at 10:59am
That is Nice, it is always fun to read about someone new enjoying the series!
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I am really starting to love the Twilight series, which is sort of out of my usual genres
Join the club!

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I've begun reading Breaking Dawn...and for some hard to explain reason it just seems to me a bigger leap in logic to believe that a vampire could impregnate a human (how exactly does that work from a fertilization standpoint?) than it is to believe that vampires and shape-shifters exist.[/QUOTE]

have you visited Stpehaine Meyer's website?
she anwers this in her FAQ for Breaking Dawn.
post #631 of 654
7/14/10 at 7:14pm
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Originally Posted by jalilah View Post
That is Nice, it is always fun to read about someone new enjoying the series!


Join the club!

QUOTE=That Is Nice;15621172]
I've begun reading Breaking Dawn...and for some hard to explain reason it just seems to me a bigger leap in logic to believe that a vampire could impregnate a human (how exactly does that work from a fertilization standpoint?) than it is to believe that vampires and shape-shifters exist.
have you visited Stpehaine Meyer's website?
she anwers this in her FAQ for Breaking Dawn.[/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by liberal_chick View Post
That Is Nice, I can't remember if this was in one of the 4 books or in Midnight Sun, but somewhere they talk about Alice playing the stock market for/with them. That whole future seeing thing would sure be nice, in that respect!
You guys are awesome! My questions are all getting answered. Yes, that makes sense about Alice playing the stock market because I don't think Carlisle would make enough as a doctor for their lifestyle.

I'm going to SM's FAQs next when I get a moment. So curious about the fertility issue!

I'm almost done now with Breaking Dawn, even though I just got it yesterday. Hey, my house is a mess, we have no clean clothes, and I've been really busy at work, and with my pre-schooler, but I could not put that book down last night and got up early to read it, too! Crazy.

I'm to the part where Renesme (spelling) is born and Bella meets her and has her first reaction to learning Renesme has imprinted on Jacob. I'm a little suprised by both Bella's and Edward's reaction to this, especially Bella's because she knows it's involuntary, but I'm sure her reaction will change. I'm wondering if Alice will soon speak up about her vision of the connection between Jacob and Renesme.

If I ever have a girl (doubtful) I think Esme would make a beautiful name.

It is indeed a fun series of books. (But has anyone else noticed some of the grammatical errors in the book?? For instance, using "I" where "me" should be in a sentence? I'm a former writer (technical writing) so I was surprised some of those things weren't edited out, but perhaps in teen literature it is deliberately left.)
post #632 of 654
7/14/10 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by liberal_chick View Post
That Is Nice, I can't remember if this was in one of the 4 books or in Midnight Sun, but somewhere they talk about Alice playing the stock market for/with them. That whole future seeing thing would sure be nice, in that respect!
Is Midnight Sun the retelling of Twilight from Edward's perspective?
post #633 of 654
7/14/10 at 8:36pm
Yes, and you should read it! SM has a link from her website. It is incomplete, which sucks, but what she's got done is great.
post #634 of 654
7/14/10 at 10:35pm
Ohhh, I look forward to reading Midnight Sun.

I did look up Stephanie Meyer's FAQ's about the books, and the answer to the male fertility question, and she says first and foremost that none of the story is possible so the vampire fertility isn't either , but goes on with her explanation.

I'm now nearly done with Breaking Dawn...and starting to grow a little weary of all the battles and threats...James, Victoria, Irina, the Volturi...so many crises and battles.

I am looking forward to the film release of Breaking Dawn, though. Will it be one installment or two? ...such a long book!
post #635 of 654
7/15/10 at 10:53am
It'll be two separate movies. The first one comes out November 2011.

I really enjoyed Midnight Sun and I hope she finishes it.
post #636 of 654
7/15/10 at 3:23pm
I'm not going back to read the last 31 pages here but... am I the only one who really does not like these books at all?
post #637 of 654
7/15/10 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by HerRoyallHighness View Post
I'm not going back to read the last 31 pages here but... am I the only one who really does not like these books at all?
I think most of the people posting in this thread did like them. There have been several other threads for people who didn't.
post #638 of 654
7/15/10 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by Alyantavid View Post
It'll be two separate movies. The first one comes out November 2011.

I really enjoyed Midnight Sun and I hope she finishes it.
Okay, seriously, 2011? How am I going to wait that long??

All I can say is Robert Pattinson better make some non-Twilight films in the interim to hold me over! I loved him in Remember Me (just didn't like the ending).

I also really hope SM will finish Midnight Sun. I would enjoy reading it.
post #639 of 654
7/15/10 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by That Is Nice View Post
Okay, seriously, 2011? How am I going to wait that long??

All I can say is Robert Pattinson better make some non-Twilight films in the interim to hold me over! I loved him in Remember Me (just didn't like the ending).

I also really hope SM will finish Midnight Sun. I would enjoy reading it.
Yeah. And who knows when the second part will come out.

Not really on topic, but Robert Pattinson is filiming Water For Elephants right now and that was a wonderful book! Hopefully the movie turns out well.
post #640 of 654
7/15/10 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by Alyantavid View Post
Yeah. And who knows when the second part will come out.

Not really on topic, but Robert Pattinson is filiming Water For Elephants right now and that was a wonderful book! Hopefully the movie turns out well.
Yes! He plays the young vet, I believe!