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post #1 of 53
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Anybody interested?

DH and I trying this. Our growing season is kicking off, and we'd like to commisserate with somebody.

Because we all live in different places, we'll all have different "rules", but I still would love to hear and learn from others.
post #2 of 53
I've been thinking about doing a "local night." We won't start getting our CSA boxes until mid-June - it'll be easier then! Also, I don't know about a mileage thing. I've just been thinking about "Colorado night." I've lived here 11 years, but I am woefully ignorant of where everything is in Colorado. I've spent the last 11 years believing we were going to move away next year. I am finally accepting the fact that I am trapped! Blah, blah, blah - yea, I'm babbling. Anyway, I'm really excited about our CSA box. I want to take the kiddos to the farm this summer, so they can have a real connection with the place. We are also trying to grow our own garden, but this climate sucks - I have to completely relearn to garden, so who knows what we'll get! I'm going to take some time and wander through the hfs to see what is from Colorado. Outside of some seriously kicking applesauce and jerky (which we don't eat), I don't know what comes from here! It'll be a learning experience for me, too.
post #3 of 53
We've been about 95% local in the summer for a few years. The only imported foods I get on a regular basis are spices, sugar, tea, coffee, and olive oil. In the cold weather months I do buy fresh produce though. That brings us down to about 75% local

Our location in Maine is wonderful for local foods but the growing season is short so I have to plan really well.

In past years we have participated in a CSA, stocked up at the Farmer's Market, and put in our own garden one raised bed at a time.

This year we have a goat share, are raising some laying hens, and doing all our own veggies, with a hoop house to extend the season for greens - or at least that's the plan! I'm trying to be easy on myself and take time to learn but I'm excited too. We'll have a veggie CSA for "back-up" as dh is bartering some carpentry for our share.

I want to do some serious foraging this year too. The summer before last I ate a ton of dandelion greens and I felt fantastic. There will be wild stuff growing quite awhile before anything is ready in the garden.
post #4 of 53
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I want to do some serious foraging this year too. The summer before last I ate a ton of dandelion greens and I felt fantastic. There will be wild stuff growing quite awhile before anything is ready in the garden.
I do that when we go to Arkansas to visit my folks. I always take the kids out to pick wild blackberries. Yummmmmm..... Then, in the fall they have wild persimmon trees. Okay, I'm drooling! :
post #5 of 53
I'm in!

We raise most of our own meat and produce. We buy milk from a local, almost organic dairy. We'll be getting some hens this spring for eggs as well. And fresh fish is always available.

This time of year is hard though. I froze everything last summer but it wasn't quite enough to get us through. And fresh fruit right now is coming from the grocery store. Banana's usually come from the store though, they're never in season in Idaho!

I just wish the weather would clear up so I can get my garden going. Its a little early yet.
post #6 of 53
This is something I'm working on doing. I buy my milk, yoghurt, eggs and goat cheese locally. I'm also finishing up a side of pork I bought locally. I'm going to do a garden again this year - hopefully it will turn out better than last year. We eat a lot of grains though. I buy in bulk and grind my own flour, and I'm trying to start baking my own bread. Is there a good list somewhere of local places to buy food? I mean other than farmer's markets?
post #7 of 53
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Is there a good list somewhere of local places to buy food? I mean other than farmer's markets?
Good question. I'm trying to find out the same thing. The farmer's markets around here SUCK! Really, they do. You're not even guaranteed local food from the farmer's markets. It's pitiful. I'm used to these amazing farmer's markets with awesome locally grown produce, flowers, herbs, eggs, etc. that we had in Arkansas. I don't even go to the farmer's markets here.

I spent almost an hour wandering around my local Vitamin Cottage (hfs) today scoping out local stuff. I asked the produce guy if they ever mark their local produce. I swear he looked at me like I was a green alien! He said, "Uh....um....well, all we're required to do is tell what country it's from." Okay then. All their bulk food is prepackaged and not marked either. I found a few packaged things - multiple salsas, green chile sauces, an enchilada sauce, marinara sauce, apple juice, peanut butter, jam, and apple sauce.

I guess this isn't going to be as easy to get started as I hoped it would be! I'll be doing a bit or research I suppose.
post #8 of 53
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We have decided not to do a CSA share... this year. We have a list (a wonderfully long list) of farms in county, and while many do shares, they all also just sell food to anyone. So that's cool.

There are some other farms, outside our county, that we are interested in scoping out.

So we are planning on taking little daytrips and doing lots of upicks.

Our definition of local is going to be U.P. grown. (That is, the upper peninsula of Michigan.)

We already do 90% local dairy, We haven't been able to find chevre, Swiss cheese or any kind of bleu cheese, but everything else is U.P. dairy.

Meats and eggs are pretty easy, too- if we want something that we can't find locally, the rule is that it must be certified organic.

We get our juice concentrate from a downstate Michigan company.

We will only be buying Michigan beet sugar from now on.

As far as produce, we are going to try to overwinter (in a cold frame) spinach and lettuce this winter for greens, and we'll sprout. We're also going to try to grow tomatoes indoors. Other than that, we are just planning on canning, freezing, and drying tons of U.P. produce as it comes into season. We already do this, but we want to ramp it up a notch, and even do things that are cheap do buy at the store (ie, frozen peas).

We also are planning on converting our basement pantry (we have 150+ year old house) back into a root cellar, to store root veggies, garlic, and apples.

There are three farmers' markets nearby, as well as a natural foods co-op that works extensively with local farmers. So we really have a lot of options, fortunately.

We know we'll have to buy "imported" grains, but we are going to get whatever we can from MN, which isn't far away.

We made the rule that all of our citrus, avacados, nuts and grapes MUST come from within the U.S. and be organic, so we have at least some sense that the workers have been well treated.

Our cocoa, chocolate, coffee, tea, spices, cashews and bananas must be organic and fair trade.

There are still some dry goods that I don't know what to do about. Dry shell beans, in particular. I'm thinking of just making a U.S./ organic rule and leaving it at that.

I have no idea what to do about rice or pasta.

Fish is hard, too- we've decided we will only be eating fish from the local fish market (Great Lakes, most Lake Superior), wild AK salmon, as well as U.S. farm raised catfish, barramundi, shrimp, and shellfish. If SIL (who lives in AK) catches another halibut and sends us some, we will greatfully eat that as well. :

I want to, eventually, get to the point of having a list of "outsourced" foods rather than "local" foods.

So... what do you think of my rules? Do they at least make sense?
post #9 of 53
Your rules sound great Leta. You've obviously put a lot of thought and research into it! I'm realizing that it's going to take a bit of work to figure out HOW to make this work in Colorado. If we were big time meat eaters, it would be no problem! Grains will be an issue because we are gluten free, so we won't be getting most of our grains from Colorado. The CSA box will be great for us here because so far the pickin's are slim! This is definitely going to be a process - so bear with me! I promise not to gripe too much about my homesickness for Arkansas.
post #10 of 53
I'm in

I was really into this over the summer and into autumn...but then winter hit me hard. I am pregnant and lazy and, well, not really myself. I hope to return to myself after this baby arrives and the snow recedes.

Here is my list:
I buy all local dairy and eggs.

I sprout...

I'm working on grow lights to do things like greens and herbs indoors.

This spring/summer/fall I will pick berries, grow a garden, shop at the farmer's market and forage in the wild! I will freeze everything I can!

I will can as much as I can. Last year, we ended up doing salsa, applesauce, tomatoes, jams of all kinds and hot peppers...I still have salsa and jam left over.

I'm going to start to brew my own beers...

I, too, will consider local to be UP made...and will work to keep other things

Where I find it hard (I live near where Leta lives), is in the flour/grain dept...and in the coffee/tea dept.
post #11 of 53
Oh, and if you haven't already read it...check out Animal, Vegetable, Miracle by Barbara Kingsolver. I'm sure most of you already have.........
post #12 of 53
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Originally Posted by russianthistle View Post
I'm in

Where I find it hard (I live near where Leta lives), is in the flour/grain dept...and in the coffee/tea dept.
Here is a place in the Lower Peninsula that sells organic, local grains and beans: www.ferrisorganicfarm.com

They are located in Eaton Rapids, MI (near Lansing). I am hoping to check them out myself when my current flour supply runs out.
post #13 of 53
thank you, southhavenjen!
post #14 of 53
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Originally Posted by Leta View Post
We have decided not to do a CSA share... this year. We have a list (a wonderfully long list) of farms in county, and while many do shares, they all also just sell food to anyone. So that's cool.

There are some other farms, outside our county, that we are interested in scoping out.

So we are planning on taking little daytrips and doing lots of upicks.

Our definition of local is going to be U.P. grown. (That is, the upper peninsula of Michigan.)

We already do 90% local dairy, We haven't been able to find chevre, Swiss cheese or any kind of bleu cheese, but everything else is U.P. dairy.

Meats and eggs are pretty easy, too- if we want something that we can't find locally, the rule is that it must be certified organic.

We get our juice concentrate from a downstate Michigan company.

We will only be buying Michigan beet sugar from now on.

As far as produce, we are going to try to overwinter (in a cold frame) spinach and lettuce this winter for greens, and we'll sprout. We're also going to try to grow tomatoes indoors. Other than that, we are just planning on canning, freezing, and drying tons of U.P. produce as it comes into season. We already do this, but we want to ramp it up a notch, and even do things that are cheap do buy at the store (ie, frozen peas).

We also are planning on converting our basement pantry (we have 150+ year old house) back into a root cellar, to store root veggies, garlic, and apples.

There are three farmers' markets nearby, as well as a natural foods co-op that works extensively with local farmers. So we really have a lot of options, fortunately.

We know we'll have to buy "imported" grains, but we are going to get whatever we can from MN, which isn't far away.

We made the rule that all of our citrus, avacados, nuts and grapes MUST come from within the U.S. and be organic, so we have at least some sense that the workers have been well treated.

Our cocoa, chocolate, coffee, tea, spices, cashews and bananas must be organic and fair trade.

There are still some dry goods that I don't know what to do about. Dry shell beans, in particular. I'm thinking of just making a U.S./ organic rule and leaving it at that.

I have no idea what to do about rice or pasta.

Fish is hard, too- we've decided we will only be eating fish from the local fish market (Great Lakes, most Lake Superior), wild AK salmon, as well as U.S. farm raised catfish, barramundi, shrimp, and shellfish. If SIL (who lives in AK) catches another halibut and sends us some, we will greatfully eat that as well. :

I want to, eventually, get to the point of having a list of "outsourced" foods rather than "local" foods.

So... what do you think of my rules? Do they at least make sense?
This will be our third year notching up to be more local. We also live in the U.P. and I find that this time of year is really really hard. It does not help that I have very bad luck at gardening.....but I do try every year We are looking into root cellaring too. Our basement is about the right temperature but is quite damp (120 year old house) so I am not sure how to adapt without putting energy into it (like dehumidifying). My plan is to do a test this year with 3-4 specimens of several types of produce just to see what happens even with the dampness. Canning has saved us! Last year, I also grabbed a bunch of the green tomatoes leftover at our CSA farm and put them in grocery sacks. Every week, I would pluck out the ripening tomatoes. Not nearly as good as fresh summer tomatoes, but we were eating real, local, FREE, red tomatoes until December.

I like your rules. Remember you can get wild rice locally. We have also started to eliminate some foods that are not and will never be local like bananas. I am not willing to mess with my coffee though
post #15 of 53
We're in too. If you calculate by dollar amount, we're about 50% local right now, which will go up to probably 90% in June when the CSA starts distributions. (And frankly, I think all of the remaining 10% will just be for the goodies (or, "crap" lol) that DD likes to eat, plus wheat flour - so DH and I will be virtually all local).

We are blessed that it's very easy here (Western Mass). We're a 15 or 20 minute drive from local milk (raw), cheese, eggs, pork, beef, apples, strawberries and all standard CSA vegetables. Later this summer we'll take a drive further away and pick up some blueberries.

The one drawback we're having is that we have to drive to these places. Last summer DH shopped at the closest grocery store by bicycle. In fact, we use our car so little that going "local" will definitely increase our mileage and gas consumption by a significant, and not sure if we can keep the low mileage insurance rate like that. But we'll see, food pickup will only be a weekly event. Not complaining or seeing this as an obstacle, but definitely a "too bad" factor.

I LOVE knowing our food producers. I was just saying to DH the other day, "Oh, Lisa and Chuck [our veggie farmers] have leftover beets and carrots from last harvest, they are going to give the members a special distribution to finish those out this weekend." Or, "Amy [dairy farmer] says a new calf was born today!"

Which actually does bring me to the other thing I'm still working through. DH and I were previously vegetarian, for moral (not health) reasons. I decided I wanted to eat meat again, but only local/pastured meat. We visit the animals every week when we do the pickup. But it's still hard. I'm ok with killing an animal for meat, and these animals by comparison live a great life. But the dairy industry is still hard for me to deal with. Maybe because I'm a nursing mom! The idea of taking a newborn calf away from its mommy is heartbreaking to me. I guess I find the dairy industry cruel even on a local/"humane" level. It's really tough.
post #16 of 53
This whole thing is definitely turning out to be more challenging than I ever thought it would be! I'm guessing that when the growing season gets going, it'll be easier to find local producers. I'm still working on our "rules." Besides our CSA box (fruits and veggies), there is one local farm that I know of where you can go pick produce. The kids and I have already talked about picking stuff and canning/pickling/preserving them. I think they're kind of excited about it!

There are some things that I just won't be able to get local. Not aware of any olive growers in Colorado, so olive oil will have to come from somewhere else. I'd have to use something less healthy like butter or lard, and I'm not willing to do that. There is a local peanut butter producer, and their stuff is fabulous. Honestly, I had forgotten about them. I don't know that I'll be able to buy from them all the time (they are really expensive), but I will be buying from them more often for sure. I think I already mentioned the grains issue. I don't know - I'm still working it all out! I'm glad you started this thread though. It really is important to be aware of where you food comes from.
post #17 of 53
OK, here's one question. More about seasonal eating than local eating, technically, but of course they go hand in hand.

Are any spring vegetables usually preserved for later? I know summer vegetables and fall vegetables are, but spring seems to be mostly leafy greens. I know you can freeze them but do most people just eat what they can get in spring, and start up preserving in mid or late summer (with tomatoes, etc)?
post #18 of 53
Strawberries and asparagus are two spring crops I can think of off the top of my head that can be preserved. Oh man - I love fresh strawberries! My grandfather used to have this huge strawberry field, and we'd just go out there and pick them fresh and pop them in our mouths. Yummmmmm. : The mom would put up strawberry preserves and she'd also freeze strawberries. I don't think we ever had enough asparagus to freeze, but you can!
post #19 of 53
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OK, here's one question. More about seasonal eating than local eating, technically, but of course they go hand in hand.

Are any spring vegetables usually preserved for later? I know summer vegetables and fall vegetables are, but spring seems to be mostly leafy greens. I know you can freeze them but do most people just eat what they can get in spring, and start up preserving in mid or late summer (with tomatoes, etc)?
Good question. Off the top of my head...very few things come to mind. I, personally, don't like frozen greens with the exception of spinach. I've tried freezing other greens (kale, chard...never have tried lettuce...sounds yucky), and they're just not right to me.

You can freeze leeks...I would chop them first. They can also be dried. Hmmmm.....Oh, fiddleheads, too, can be frozen, though they're better fresh. That's all that comes to mind, right now. :
post #20 of 53
I want to join, too!!! I buy our eggs and milk at our HFS and it's from a farm about 20 miles away. I'm planning a pretty big garden this year, and plan to start buying our meat from local farmer, too. I need to work on the grain thing...

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Originally Posted by EarthyMamaofDaisy View Post
Is there a good list somewhere of local places to buy food? I mean other than farmer's markets?
Have you ever looked at www.localharvest.org ? You can search for farms, CSA's, farmer's markets, etc.... That's where I find a lot of our stuff.

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Oh, and if you haven't already read it...check out Animal, Vegetable, Miracle by Barbara Kingsolver. I'm sure most of you already have.........
Isn't that an awesome book? So inspiring.
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