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post #81 of 239
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Originally Posted by Lunaria View Post
With my ds we freely say penis, but so far I haven't had to decide wether to call his testicles balls or testicles. My dh calls them balls and I usually do too...
My gut reaction is to suggest that you use whatever terms you and your DH are most comfortable using...at least at first. I think kids pick up on "that word makes mommy/daddy feel awkward" and it may make him think it's not a good word...

I dunno, though. We aren't there yet.
post #82 of 239
I *think* yoni is from the shakra centers (did I spell that right?) it is one of the 7 shakras in the body....I vaguely recall this from long ago...I thought it actually referred to both male and female genitalia.

I had NO IDEA that vagina meant sheath for a sword
it reminds me of when my OB explained why the previous OB had put in a "crown stitch" when sewing me up from a childbirth tear (referring to the extra stitch to tighten the vagina so when the "king" was in his thrown, crown, whatever....yikes)
post #83 of 239
I looked up yoni on wikipedia:

Yoni (Sanskrit: योनि yoni) is a Sanskrit word that means “womb, vulva, vagina, place of birth, source, origin.”[1] The word also has a wider meaning in both profane and spiritual contexts, including "spring, fountain, place of rest, repository, receptacle, seat, abode, home, lair, nest, stable" (Monier-Williams).It is also etymologically derived from the root yuj—like yoga and yogini—meaning, “to join, unite, fasten, or harness.” [1]

The sanskrit term for penis is ligam I think.

Anyway, yoni seemed like a more respectful word than vagina. But vulva would be fine too. Now my dd is 4 and says yoni. Changing it could be confusing for her?

Jenny

PS. That is horrible about the 'crown stitch.'
post #84 of 239
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride View Post
Oh...and that information somehow completely excluded the clitoris. I guess we weren't supposed to know we had those!
We use "vulva" with dd. (And it is one of her favorite words. Imagine "Bob the Vulva," sung to the Bob the Builder theme song. ) Either she hasn't noticed that she has a vagina yet, or I just haven't been there when she found it, so I haven't introduced that term yet.

But the other day, she was 'exploring' and suddenly announced to me, "I have a penis!" She pulled her diaper down in the front and pointed at her clitoris.

"Actually, that's your clitoris," I told her.

"No!" she insisted. "It's my penis." I decided to choose my battles and dropped it. (Besides, dd's personality is that she would argue it to the death at that moment, but since I dropped it, next week she's likely to point it out and tell me it's her clitoris. )
post #85 of 239
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Originally Posted by TortelliniMama View Post

But the other day, she was 'exploring' and suddenly announced to me,
"I have a penis!"
She pulled her diaper down in the front and pointed at her clitoris.

"Actually, that's your clitoris," I told her.

"No!" she insisted. "It's my penis."
post #86 of 239
Its relieving to see my DS so comfortable using anatomically correct words. He's always used 'penis' & 'testicles.' Though he does call his bum his 'ass'.

I use slang at times when I don't want him to know I'm referring to his penis. "DH, could you throw a pair of pants on him, I'm sick of his JohnDangler on the couch."
post #87 of 239
MY DH is embarrassed when our dc use the proper terms for body parts - but I figure they will help to improve his viewpoint on the issue!

My MIL definately won't use proper terms for body parts - she prefers to call the toilet the TOY-TOY. But she doesn't squirm TOOO much when my kids use the proper words I taught them.

I am LOVING the replies in this thread!!! :
post #88 of 239
Yoni is Sanskrit, but vagina does NOT mean "sheath for a sword." That one's been going around for years- I don't know who came up with it.


As far as using the technical terms: I can't imagine using 'vagina' any more than 'mandible.' It has nothing to do with shame (my kids don't wear pants if they can help it)- it's just too formal and serious for me.
post #89 of 239
The Romans would be my guess. Vagina is Latin for "sheath" or "Scabbard".
post #90 of 239
It doesn't surprise me either as lots of others have said. People are weird.

We kinda do both here though. I make sure my kids know the proper names, b/c you're supposed to in the horrifying case that they ever have to report something to police (it doesn't fly if they use some cutsie name, and adults can't ask them for clarification, i.e. "do you mean penis?"). But on a daily basis my kids mostly refer to their "private parts." I don't think that's bad though b/c it puts the emphasis on private.
post #91 of 239
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Originally Posted by because why not? View Post
Yoni is Sanskrit, but vagina does NOT mean "sheath for a sword." That one's been going around for years- I don't know who came up with it.
Vagina DOES mean sheath... It comes from Latin. It's in any dictionary that has etymologies.
post #92 of 239
i particularly revel in peoples uncomfortableness. i have been known to tell my dd when she is playing rough with any adults 'be careful around the penis/vagina area. it really hurts there.' my dd agrees but everyone else is silent and shocked. i love that. :
post #93 of 239
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Originally Posted by meemee View Post
i particularly revel in peoples uncomfortableness. i have been known to tell my dd when she is playing rough with any adults 'be careful around the penis/vagina area. it really hurts there.' my dd agrees but everyone else is silent and shocked. i love that. :

Why do something to make other people uncomfortable on purpose? That seems really anti-social...
post #94 of 239
My two-year-old knows penis, scrotum, butt, breast, nipple, and vulva.
My six-year-old knows all those, plus testicle, vagina, foreskin, and glans - and probably a little bit more. They also use their own words, such as "milkies" and "nummies" used for breasts and breastmilk, and "weiner" became a favorite when my eldest turned five. We use the term "private parts" when having the "bad touches" discussions, because that term encompasses a number of locations, though we also specify which parts during the conversations.

I had major issues using any kind of terminology for private areas when I was a kid, and still blush at times. I don't want my kids to have those issues.
post #95 of 239
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Originally Posted by tbone_kneegrabber View Post
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It irks me that people call it "vagina" Um the part you see is the vulva, the "inside" part is the vagina. Don't get all bent out of shape about folks using cutesy words if you aren't using the "correct" word anyway!
yea, no kidding.

i was surprised to find out a very good friend calls her dd's vulvas "chi-chi"s-she said her dh is grossed out by "vagina". and i totally saw her eyebrows go up at me when i said the word "vulva"! :
this is such a smart, enlightened lady, too.
post #96 of 239
I'm kind of glad I don't have a girl. Because vulva sounds so ... clinical. And I can't say yoni without thinking of this guy

I know his name is not Yoni, but that's just where my mind goes. I'm warped like that I guess.

I consider myself to be a pretty free minded, loosey goosey type of lady, educated and all that. But none of the "correct" terms feel natural to me. They feel forced when I say them. I don't feel embarrassed. I do feel kind of stupid.

Oh and growing up my mother referred to our lady parts as a "frog".

You read that right.

I still shudder at that one.

I call it my vag, when I call it. My son knows I have a vulva and that the vagina is where babies exit the womb (normally). But he is far too interested in his own junk to care much about the female biology at this point, so thankfully I don't have to struggle too much.
post #97 of 239
I'm confused...

You shudder at your vulva being called a "frog", but you call it by a cutsie name just the same "vag". And then you refer to your son's genitalia as his "junk".
post #98 of 239
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Originally Posted by Breeder View Post
I'm kind of glad I don't have a girl. Because vulva sounds so ... clinical.
You know, I kind of felt the same way when I first used the word (this was talking to ds before dd was born, actually, so not having a girl wouldn't have saved me from it). And, in fact, if dd hadn't come along, it might have continued to feel kind of weird to say it, because it doesn't come up that often when talking to ds.

But, having a girl, and one who is very, very fond both of her vulva and talking about it, I've gotten over it. Yes, in a way it still doesn't feel like a "native" word to me, if you know what I mean (although I say it without pausing, finally ). I don't think we even used a word for it when I was growing up. You were just kind of vague and awkward and maybe gestured slightly by pointing down if you really needed to mention it. Even when talking to a doctor pre-motherhood, I wouldn't have felt comfortable saying it (and that's assuming the doctor visit happened after I learned the word and what it meant).

But for dd, "vulva" is a warm, comfortable word. It's part of her, and she doesn't hesitate at all to say it.

My point is, I think it feels clinical to a lot of us because the only time we use it or hear it used is in clinical surroundings (books, doctor's office, etc.). But for girls (and boys, for that matter) who grow up with it being used as an everyday word, that's how they'll see it.
post #99 of 239
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Originally Posted by AliveMama View Post
I'm confused...

You shudder at your vulva being called a "frog", but you call it by a cutsie name just the same "vag". And then you refer to your son's genitalia as his "junk".
I refer to my son's genitals as his "penis, testicles and scrotum" when I am talking to HIM. I referred to his genitals as his "junk" to the readers of an internet forum.

Vag is short for vagina. That's like say Bob is a "cutsie name" for Robert. (which I realize is debatable). I have a vagina.... I do not have a frog. Frog is a "code word". Vag is an abbreviation.

I suppose I'm just a dumb unenlightened woman for not talking about my body in terms I do not feel enclined to use. You can sing to your vulva if you'd like. I'm not offended by the term, or others using it.

I just wish people didn't get so high horse about using the correct term. I equally wish people didn't get offended when people use the correct term.
post #100 of 239
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Originally Posted by TortelliniMama View Post
You know, I kind of felt the same way when I first used the word (this was talking to ds before dd was born, actually, so not having a girl wouldn't have saved me from it). And, in fact, if dd hadn't come along, it might have continued to feel kind of weird to say it, because it doesn't come up that often when talking to ds.

But, having a girl, and one who is very, very fond both of her vulva and talking about it, I've gotten over it. Yes, in a way it still doesn't feel like a "native" word to me, if you know what I mean (although I say it without pausing, finally ). I don't think we even used a word for it when I was growing up. You were just kind of vague and awkward and maybe gestured slightly by pointing down if you really needed to mention it. Even when talking to a doctor pre-motherhood, I wouldn't have felt comfortable saying it (and that's assuming the doctor visit happened after I learned the word and what it meant).

But for dd, "vulva" is a warm, comfortable word. It's part of her, and she doesn't hesitate at all to say it.

My point is, I think it feels clinical to a lot of us because the only time we use it or hear it used is in clinical surroundings (books, doctor's office, etc.). But for girls (and boys, for that matter) who grow up with it being used as an everyday word, that's how they'll see it.

This is a great post. As I said, my son knows it is called a vulva. So I have used the term to him (hopefully it sounded natural to his ears). But having two small boys, the oppertunity to chat about vulvas does not come up terribly often.
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