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post #21 of 240
I'm sorry. about the quotes I mean--I wish we could multi-quote by paragraph just for one user--because writing at the bottom makes it sorta confusing and I miss stuff. I guess that's mostly my organizational issue though.
post #22 of 240
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BH4's chemical name is tetrahydrobiopterin. A lot of what I've been reading today points to your body going crazy trying to make different pterins, too. Don't ask what that means, I'm trying to figure it out still.
The important thing for you to know about BH4 is that it's needed to convert tryptophan into 5-HTP (needed for seratonin). (It's also used to convert phenylalanine into tyrosine and tyrosine into L-dopa for dopamine production, but those seem to be okay in you).

ETA: It's also used to transport excess ammonia out of the body.
Tyrosine's important for thyroid function.
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I'm sorry. about the quotes I mean--I wish we could multi-quote by paragraph just for one user--because writing at the bottom makes it sorta confusing and I miss stuff. I guess that's mostly my organizational issue though.
Hmmm... I can't figure out how to write this so that you can understand.... you just enclose the word quote in brackets at the beginning and then the word /quote in brackets at the end of whatever you want to quote. So I quote the whole thing, then break it up when responding. I wanted to just type it, but then it would think I was quoting! Know what I mean?
post #24 of 240
kathy, i wish i could contribute, but im totally out of my league! im really hoping you get your answers though!!!
post #25 of 240
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Hmmm... I can't figure out how to write this so that you can understand.... you just enclose the word quote in brackets at the beginning and then the word /quote in brackets at the end of whatever you want to quote. So I quote the whole thing, then break it up when responding. I wanted to just type it, but then it would think I was quoting! Know what I mean?
[ QUOTE ] and [ /QUOTE ] without the spaces before and after what you want to quote.
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kathy, i wish i could contribute, but im totally out of my league! im really hoping you get your answers though!!!
That's why I'm asking for all this collective brainpower. But now my brain is fatigued and I must get to bed. This is so fascinating though!!

I'm going to the osteopath next Tuesday and he's right next to WF, so I'm making my list of things to get while I'm there.

This itching is driving me insane. I'm beginning to worry that it wasn't an abx reaction and it's something else. I thought abx rashes were just rashes. This is excruciatingly itchy. My whole left side, and about 4" on front and 4" on back, and down both arms. It feels worse than poison ivy and I'm super allergic to that. It's bumpy and almost dry feeling. Would coconut oil hurt?help?
post #27 of 240
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That's why I'm asking for all this collective brainpower. But now my brain is fatigued and I must get to bed. This is so fascinating though!!

I'm going to the osteopath next Tuesday and he's right next to WF, so I'm making my list of things to get while I'm there.

This itching is driving me insane. I'm beginning to worry that it wasn't an abx reaction and it's something else. I thought abx rashes were just rashes. This is excruciatingly itchy. My whole left side, and about 4" on front and 4" on back, and down both arms. It feels worse than poison ivy and I'm super allergic to that. It's bumpy and almost dry feeling. Would coconut oil hurt?help?
For what little it's worth, my brother is having a reaction to abx right now and has been complaining he's ITCHY too. Super itchy, he said.
Try to get some rest.
post #28 of 240


how do I keep track of two pages and respond to everything?

D2 is a synthetic form of vit D, found added to milk, among other things. I don't know how to read the test, but i'm guessing it just means you have the 'right' form (D3), and haven't been supping the other one.

High folate - folate and folic acid seem to get used interchangeably a lot: I had a test with high/normal folate/folic acid levels when I wasn't supping (much?). I don't use folic acid well. I'm wondering if it reflects that - that you're high in a form that you can't use? So maybe low in the form you want, since it's not getting converted?

Tarter - Melvin Page says it's high calcium to phosphorus ratio. He multiplies the two, and if it's above a certain number, you get buildup rather than breakdown, but if your calcium is too high, you get tarter while if your phosphorus is too high, you get gum disease. I hope I'm remembering that right.

Steroid hormones are detoxed by sulfation, so high progesterone might be low sulfation (that's what I'm thinking for myself), but with high progesterone and low cortisol, I'm wanting to look up what's needed to convert prog into the other adrenal hormones and see if you have a block there.

Okay, time for the next pass...
post #29 of 240
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Tarter - Melvin Page says it's high calcium to phosphorus ratio. He multiplies the two, and if it's above a certain number, you get buildup rather than breakdown, but if your calcium is too high, you get tarter while if your phosphorus is too high, you get gum disease. I hope I'm remembering that right.
That sounds similar to what the first dentist I spoke with said about my son's tartar. Not in exactly those words, but it was calcium build-up which didn't necessarily imply too much calcium intake but could be low phosphorus. But since phosphorus mainly comes from animal sources, I figured we had a utilization problem rather than an intake problem.
post #30 of 240
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That sounds similar to what the first dentist I spoke with said about my son's tartar. Not in exactly those words, but it was calcium build-up which didn't necessarily imply too much calcium intake but could be low phosphorus. But since phosphorus mainly comes from animal sources, I figured we had a utilization problem rather than an intake problem.
Oh for....
And it only took me 24 years to find this out after my mom being told when I was 6 to limit calcium (by my dentist about bone calcifications and tartar buildup).
post #31 of 240
fingernails - low keratin, possibly either low blood calcium or low cysteine.
menstrual cycles - fix adrenals and watch for them to improve?
I don't know what alkaline phosphatase is :
low GABA is associated with high calcium/copper, so high might be the opposite?
bowel tolerance SA happens when unabsorbed SA meets bacteria in the lower GI (large intestine? colon?) maybe you're not absorbing it well? Maybe your bacteria aren't in the right place? You're going by watery diarrhea tolerance, right? Not just gas?
There's a link between pain and prostaglandins
osteopenia - low blood calcium and/or low K2
vit A will decrease blood calcium
fidgeting - high dopamine?
detoxing antibiotics - acetylation (coA - B5, mag, cysteine (mag/b6))
BH4 - doubt it's low, cause of normal dopamine and thyroid, low serotonin is probably something else. Which means if there's a MTHFR issue, it's probably on the methyl side. Metals can block the folate/b12 path. betaine?


B6
gut bacteria - GAPS
metals

tests I'm curious about:
homocysteine/midline defects
blood calcium
post #32 of 240
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Originally Posted by TanyaLopez View Post
That sounds similar to what the first dentist I spoke with said about my son's tartar. Not in exactly those words, but it was calcium build-up which didn't necessarily imply too much calcium intake but could be low phosphorus. But since phosphorus mainly comes from animal sources, I figured we had a utilization problem rather than an intake problem.
blood calcium doesn't have so much to do with dietary calcium - it's more about the fat soluble vitamins, PTH, lithium and probably a bunch of other stuff I haven't come across yet...
post #33 of 240
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blood calcium doesn't have so much to do with dietary calcium - it's more about the fat soluble vitamins, PTH, lithium and probably a bunch of other stuff I haven't come across yet...
Lithium, huh? Most of the hair tests I've seen where mercury is an issue also show low lithium. Where do we get lithium (besides from pills)?

And yeah, after i thought about it, I thought it was odd the dentist thought it was about what we eat, rather than how we were utilizing things. But hey, she didn't just tell me "you should floss more" when, strangely enough, I was already flossing my 18mo's teeth (but I'm not anymore).

And what is PTH?
post #34 of 240
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And what is PTH?
Parathyroid hormone, though I always forget it's actions.
post #35 of 240
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Parathyroid hormone, though I always forget it's actions.
It has to do with (turns on?) bone resorption when the calcium hits a magic level. Lithium affects that level.
post #36 of 240
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fingernails - low keratin, possibly either low blood calcium or low cysteine.
menstrual cycles - fix adrenals and watch for them to improve?
I don't know what alkaline phosphatase is :
low GABA is associated with high calcium/copper, so high might be the opposite?
bowel tolerance SA happens when unabsorbed SA meets bacteria in the lower GI (large intestine? colon?) maybe you're not absorbing it well? Maybe your bacteria aren't in the right place? You're going by watery diarrhea tolerance, right? Not just gas?
I have to go to the bathroom 15 minutes after taking 1.3g (1/4 tsp) of SA. Then the rest of the day I have painful gas.

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There's a link between pain and prostaglandins
osteopenia - low blood calcium and/or low K2
vit A will decrease blood calcium
fidgeting - high dopamine?
detoxing antibiotics - acetylation (coA - B5, mag, cysteine (mag/b6))
BH4 - doubt it's low, cause of normal dopamine and thyroid, low serotonin is probably something else. Which means if there's a MTHFR issue, it's probably on the methyl side. Metals can block the folate/b12 path. betaine?
I'm pretty sure that I have high blood calcium (which I always thought was odd). How can I have high blood calcium and osteopenia. Somehow it's being blocked?

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tests I'm curious about:
homocysteine/midline defects
blood calcium
I don't have any midline defects that I can think of

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D2 is a synthetic form of vit D, found added to milk, among other things. I don't know how to read the test, but i'm guessing it just means you have the 'right' form (D3), and haven't been supping the other one.
You're right. My supp is D3, and I don't drink milk (or anything fortified with D).

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Tarter - Melvin Page says it's high calcium to phosphorus ratio. He multiplies the two, and if it's above a certain number, you get buildup rather than breakdown, but if your calcium is too high, you get tarter while if your phosphorus is too high, you get gum disease. I hope I'm remembering that right.
Hmmm... I wonder how to find that out. I have tarter and used to have bleeding gums but don't anymore.

Extra: I took the Cipro and got the rash last Friday. Last night (Tuesday), I got two swollen painful paramammary lymph nodes (at least I'm pretty sure that's what they are). It's only on one side. From my reading, it's usually from an infection of the arm or hand. Both my arms still have the rash, but I only have the swollen lymph nodes on my left side. Is that odd? The rash is on my left side though. But I don't think of an antibiotic reaction as an "infection". So do I change my mind and think that the rash is from something else? Or is it possible since they just became enlarged if I could be allergic to the Septra too? Ugh.
post #37 of 240
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I'm pretty sure that I have high blood calcium (which I always thought was odd). How can I have high blood calcium and osteopenia. Somehow it's being blocked?
Then I would bet you're looking at K2. And that you'll need B6/mag. And that you'll be low in B6. And that if you supp the B6 before figuring out the calcium thing, you'll end up with a fuzzy tongue like me

No clue on the lymph nodes - that's next quarter
post #38 of 240
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anybody know what is the good kind of zinc?
what is the good kind of magnesium?

I don't want a fuzzy tongue!
post #39 of 240
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anybody know what is the good kind of zinc?
what is the good kind of magnesium?

I don't want a fuzzy tongue!
Zinc picolinate and oysters are my favorite forms of zinc. zinc sulfate is the form for the taste test.

Magnesium oxide is a bad but cheap form. Citrate is decent and not too expensive. There are some other forms that are more absorbable, but I don't remember them off the top of my head.

eta: the fuzzy tongue isn't all THAT bad. Just kinda whitish...
post #40 of 240
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I don't want a fuzzy tongue!
I have a fuzzy tongue all the time. So do all my brothers. Until whoMe's "experiments" and commenting on her fuzzy tongue, I thought it was normal.
I have no idea about the lymph nodes. Maybe it's just a sign that your immune system is engaged in fighting the e. coli too? I'd probably call the doctor, but I'm paranoid like that.
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