Sun Protection Dilema

[Magelet]

Anyone else have the same problem? I'm fine with going out for short periods of time without sun protection, it develops vit. D, but for long periods or the beach or something I'm not sure what to do. I'm fairly prone to sunburns.
As I see it, the three choices on the market and they're problems are thus:
"Regular" Sunscreens-they're toxic
Nano-Particle Zinc or Titanium Dioxide based sunscreens-no one knows if nano-particles are safe. they might get into your skin and do strange things.
"thick" zinc or titanium dioxide based sunscreens- they turn you white or purple. Now I'm not that concerned with beauty most of the time, and yet I just can't stomach walking around all white or purple. Just can't do it.

On the other hand, I don't want to get skin cancer, you know? Nor lots of sunburns.

what do you do? Are there other options besides those three?

[PaulaJoAnne]

I no longer get sunburns:: And I used to look like a lobster if I was out in the sun!
A good dose of high vitamin cod liver oil took care of all burning problems.
My sil and her dh went to Hawaii in January for 10 days, and neither of them burned, because of the clo.
Proper vitamin D and A in the diet, and avoiding petroleum products on the skin are the way to go.
This is a good article, and there are others on the site that you can search out if you like.
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...ndmiracle.html

ETA: You can only get D from the sun when it is directly over head, which only happens for very short periods during the year....

[MoonStarFalling]

I wear long sleeves and pants and a wide brim hat when possible. Or limit my time in the sun. Proper nutrition protects against burning.

[Magelet]

You sure about getting Vit. D only when the sun is overhead? I've definitely heard differently. I'd be interested to know where you heard that. Oh its in that article. hmmm. I'll have to go track down their sources.

Interesting on the HVCLO count. Is there one that isn't synthetic though? I thought all the brands are now either off the market or "supplementing" with synthetic?

[PaulaJoAnne]

www.drrons.com and www.greenpastures.com do not sell synthetics.

[Piglet68]

I have the same concerns. I would go with long clothing and wide-brimmed hats. I'm hoping to convince the kids to do the same this summer.

[Siennaflower]

I wear SPF clothing and a wide brim hat and use a spray sunscreen everywhere that isn't covered. I've burned straight through natural sunblocks even when I apply them liberally and often. I have fair skin and a high mole count already from earlier burns so I can't take any chances.

[PaulaJoAnne]

You all might be interested in what has been found with melinomas. Did you know that they develop in areas that do not get sun exposure?
Its an interesting thing to look up.

I truly believe that the reason skin cancer is all of a sudden such a big problem, is because of all the chemicals we have putting in and on our bodies in the last century.
Suncreens for one, are full of nasty petroleum chemicals. We have allowed the cells in our bodies to be broken down by additives and preservatives, and by not eating saturated fats. Every cell in our bodies is made up of 50% saturated fat. Our brains need saturted fats to stay healthy too.

[dogmom327]

Originally Posted by PaulaJoAnne

www.drrons.com and www.greenpastures.com do not sell synthetics.

www.building-health.com sells the same brand and they sometimes have better prices FWIW.

[emma1325]

Originally Posted by PaulaJoAnne

I no longer get sunburns:: And I used to look like a lobster if I was out in the sun!
A good dose of high vitamin cod liver oil took care of all burning problems.
....

Ok, I have a question about this. I supplement my 2 kiddos with Carlson's Cod liver oil during the cold months. I stop during the spring and summer because we get plenty of sun, and I don't want to overdose them on D. Is that really a valid concern? Should I keep on giving it to them throughout the hot months to keep them from sunburning?

[PaulaJoAnne]

Originally Posted by emma1325

Ok, I have a question about this. I supplement my 2 kiddos with Carlson's Cod liver oil during the cold months. I stop during the spring and summer because we get plenty of sun, and I don't want to overdose them on D. Is that really a valid concern? Should I keep on giving it to them throughout the hot months to keep them from sunburning?

Well....first of all, Carlsons is composed of mostly synthetic A and D. Any clo you buy in the store is under fda regs to be processed a certain way, and then have the A and D replaced to bring it back to a specific ratio. They do not add natural vits back in
So, these ones tend to be toxic and do build up over time.
You might be interested to know that when real A and D are taken together, neither one is toxic. But, if you take only one of them, it builds up in the system. They work together. The ratios need to be approx. 10 A to 1 D.
This link has some excellent research in it, as well as good links..
http://www.greenpasture.org/node/86

All that to say, it is ideal to take the Blue ice brand year round. THe links are mentioned above, as well as some other links on research that you may find interesting.
Also, we love the fact that this is proven research, and not stuff that is going to be taken back at some point after damage has been done.

[Climbergirl]

I thought I was told that all CLO (since they are pretty much sourced from the same place) will be adding synthetics. I think the only way to get non-synthetic is to use fermented CLO.

I am very interested in the thought though of taking CLO and not getting sunburned. Is there any other sources of info for that other than WAP? I like WAP, but I like to read the info from another source as well.

[Magelet]

look at the bibliography's on the WAP articles, and it should give you all sorts of sources.

[Tizzy]

What about "all-natural" sunscreen products? Any opinions on those?

[Climbergirl]

look at the bibliography's on the WAP articles, and it should give you all sorts of sources.

Duh! Thanks for the reminder

[Magelet]

I've found with all natural sunscreen products, that they almost either have zinc oxide or titanium dioxide as their active ingredient. Not so bad in themselves (as far as I'm aware) but those products which don't turn you white/purple/blue contain those in nano-particle form, which IIRC, hasn't been well studied. There isn't much evidence either way about whether they sink into the skin, and what they do there. While the jury's out, I'm not a fan. (and unless the studys are good, unbiased, and funded by independent sources, I still won't use it.) there are times and places where I will put on the stuff that turns you white, but here, everyday, it doesn't work for me.