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post #1 of 20
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I realized today I've had a GD breakthrough. As many of you know, I've been working super hard on it with my (very strong willed) children. It felt like the more I punished, the harder I pushed, the more Authoritarian I was, the worse their behavior got. I knew I needed to make a change so I posted here for help. I followed a lot of your suggestions.

I stopped doing time outs.

I stopped forcing naps (which does make for some miserable evenings, but it's better than me losing it trying to get them to sleep).

I stopped thinking about what *I* wanted my children to do and more about what *they* needed from *me*. I think this is the biggest key.

Like if they are fighting a lot, or screaming a lot. Are they bored? Do they need attention? Food? Sometimes they are just acting up for no darn reason at all, but generally when I started really thinking about it, I realized that there usually is a reason, even if it's hard to figure out at first.

Or when my 4 year old was having multiple accidents a day just to exert control over something (refusing to use the potty made her feel powerful). I stopped getting upset with her over it (despite it being a very frustrating situation), and started up her potty chart again. As soon as I started in with more positive reinforcement (and giving her extra special attention), she immediately started using the potty again.

The biggest key in all of this though, is that I HAVE TO STAY CALM. Everyone is right, once your child has you going, all bets are off and any attempt at parenting is going to fail at that point. The situation can only escalate. Of course I still lose it sometimes and yell, but I'm improving.

I discovered that my 4 year old responds remarkably well to simple reasoning. All she needs is a calm talking to with simple requests. Like, "It hurts your sister when you hit her. Do you like it when she hits you? (she always answers this with "no"). "Ok then. She doesn't like it when you hit her." I swear this is actually working. This works for screaming, random tantrums, ect.

And when all else fails, I try to accept that my kids are just going to freak out sometimes and I bust out the headphones

I'm just shocked that this stuff is actually starting to work, and it's only been a few weeks that I've been working on it intensively. And even when it doesn't work, at least I know I'm not damaging my relationship with my kids in the meantime.
post #2 of 20
It's great that you've found something that works for you!
post #3 of 20
AWESOME!!! IM SO SO SO HAPPY FOR YOU AND YOUR LUCKY CHILDREN!! I am always amazed how this stuff works! It's like the less you control them the more they cooperate!!! which I think is win/win! In the real world they need to know how to cooperate with others, not be controlled by others! In fact, being controlled by others would be detrimental! I think you are doing awesome and I definitely hear the words of a mother who had a breakthrough!
post #4 of 20
That is so wonderful!! I just posted another thread about a book I just read that in ONE day has already changed me and my kids for the better. It's called "Mom, Jason's Breathing on Me". I highly recommend it. It's a short and easy read and I read it in one night. In fact, I might read it again tonight just to reinforce everything and try to drill it into my brain.

I get so sucked into the bickering that I was starting to lose my sanity. This book has helped me immensely in just one day. Incredible!

Keep up the good work, Mama!
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by Super Glue Mommy View Post
It's like the less you control them the more they cooperate!!!
Yes this exactly! It seems really contradictory and ironic, but darned if it doesn't work. I remember originally reading some of the posts and thinking stuff like "there's no way this is going to work" and "these people have no idea what kids like mine are like" but I knew that what I was doing was NOT working and I figured I had nothing to lose.

I'm so happy things are improving! :

My therapist also gave me a copy of "The Explosive Child" so I'm excited to read that. I am going to buy Unconditional Parenting next week too
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by BCFD View Post
It's called "Mom, Jason's Breathing on Me".
This made me laugh out loud How true is that? I get sucked into the bickering too sometimes.
post #7 of 20
Congratulations! That is awesome to hear! I know the less we try to control them the better they do respond! Expecting them to do it how "we" want them to do may not be at their level at the time! And staying calm is a huge key! I just posted on anther thread about red zone green zone and trying not to cross over into their red zone at the time. And attending to their needs and keeping up with them before they start into something! Also for me it is acknowledging their feelings and emotions too. My identical twin girls are only 33 1/2 months old, but still having two is very challenging at times!
post #8 of 20
oh I ALWAYS thought (before trying to be less "controlling") that there was no way it would work with *my* kids - but alas, its like some kind of magic!
post #9 of 20
woohoo mama! yayyy! doesn't it feel good! like marsupialmom told me, thinking about what my dc need from ME vs. what *i* want/need is so crucial in GDing/loving unconditionally...its hard though when i want what MAMA needs/wants...like...peace and quiet...cuz i have a headache or am sooo tired or don't feel good...

i have one question about the headphones though...wouldn't that create a rude habit in our dc if they modeled this and covered their ears when we tell them something they don't like? my dd will sometimes cover her ears and i find it very disrespectful.....(another aha! moment just occurred.....................) this means though that SHE is not feeling revered/respected by ME...thus, you have it. sigh. man this is really tough to understand in the moment of their behavior/our own behavior...but it truly is simple. guess its all about 'deschooling/deprogramming' ourselves isn't it?
post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 
Well I guess it could, but it's pretty infrequent that I do it. It's either that or I flip out on them, so I figured that was the lesser of two evils. I don't do it when they need me, I do it when they are tantruming/fighting nonstop and there's nothing I can do to make it better. I don't do it simply becuase they said something I don't like. I think if anything it models good behavior. If mama distances herself and does something to calm down when she's about to blow, that's a good thing.

ETA: I've also tried going into the bathroom or my bedroom which I know a lot of other GD mamas do, but I can still hear them and have been known to come storming out yelling at them. So I don't do that anymore.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by Super Glue Mommy View Post
AWESOME!!! IM SO SO SO HAPPY FOR YOU AND YOUR LUCKY CHILDREN!! I am always amazed how this stuff works! It's like the less you control them the more they cooperate!!! which I think is win/win! In the real world they need to know how to cooperate with others, not be controlled by others! In fact, being controlled by others would be detrimental! I think you are doing awesome and I definitely hear the words of a mother who had a breakthrough!



post #12 of 20
Ooh, this is great news! I'm glad everyone is a little less stressed and a lot more happy. You'll have to keep us updated.

Looking very forward to hearing what you think of Unconditional Parenting! It really changed the way we see things over here.
post #13 of 20
Ooh, this is great news! I'm glad everyone is a little less stressed and a lot more happy. You'll have to keep us updated.

Looking very forward to hearing what you think of Unconditional Parenting! It really changed the way we see things over here.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by Talula Fairie View Post
Yes this exactly! It seems really contradictory and ironic, but darned if it doesn't work. I remember originally reading some of the posts and thinking stuff like "there's no way this is going to work" and "these people have no idea what kids like mine are like" but I knew that what I was doing was NOT working and I figured I had nothing to lose.

I'm so happy things are improving! :

My therapist also gave me a copy of "The Explosive Child" so I'm excited to read that. I am going to buy Unconditional Parenting next week too
I am reading "REdirecting Children's Behavior. It is very similar to what you've described. I recommend reading it.
post #15 of 20
: : : : AWESOME.
post #16 of 20
Oh Mama, this is such a great update.

I've read The Explosive Child too and it is wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!! It was nice to read something that gave me permission to look at my child's outbursts in a different way... kind of confirmed something I felt in my gut. Hope it helps you too.
post #17 of 20
Yeah! I'm so glad it is working for you!! :
post #18 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talula Fairie View Post
I realized today I've had a GD breakthrough. As many of you know, I've been working super hard on it with my (very strong willed) children. It felt like the more I punished, the harder I pushed, the more Authoritarian I was, the worse their behavior got. I knew I needed to make a change so I posted here for help. I followed a lot of your suggestions.

I stopped doing time outs.

I stopped forcing naps (which does make for some miserable evenings, but it's better than me losing it trying to get them to sleep).

I stopped thinking about what *I* wanted my children to do and more about what *they* needed from *me*. I think this is the biggest key.

Like if they are fighting a lot, or screaming a lot. Are they bored? Do they need attention? Food? Sometimes they are just acting up for no darn reason at all, but generally when I started really thinking about it, I realized that there usually is a reason, even if it's hard to figure out at first.

Or when my 4 year old was having multiple accidents a day just to exert control over something (refusing to use the potty made her feel powerful). I stopped getting upset with her over it (despite it being a very frustrating situation), and started up her potty chart again. As soon as I started in with more positive reinforcement (and giving her extra special attention), she immediately started using the potty again.

The biggest key in all of this though, is that I HAVE TO STAY CALM. Everyone is right, once your child has you going, all bets are off and any attempt at parenting is going to fail at that point. The situation can only escalate. Of course I still lose it sometimes and yell, but I'm improving.

I discovered that my 4 year old responds remarkably well to simple reasoning. All she needs is a calm talking to with simple requests. Like, "It hurts your sister when you hit her. Do you like it when she hits you? (she always answers this with "no"). "Ok then. She doesn't like it when you hit her." I swear this is actually working. This works for screaming, random tantrums, ect.

And when all else fails, I try to accept that my kids are just going to freak out sometimes and I bust out the headphones

I'm just shocked that this stuff is actually starting to work, and it's only been a few weeks that I've been working on it intensively. And even when it doesn't work, at least I know I'm not damaging my relationship with my kids in the meantime.
Thumbs up.
post #19 of 20
Hey! This is the first time I've been on a forum in months now. I just happened across this and wanted to say I'm super happy for you! It seems like things are going great.
Niyama is regressing with pottying so at least for today she's in diapers
Miss you!
Message me sometime.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by thekitchenvixen View Post
Hey! This is the first time I've been on a forum in months now. I just happened across this and wanted to say I'm super happy for you! It seems like things are going great.
Niyama is regressing with pottying so at least for today she's in diapers
Miss you!
Message me sometime.
I message you every time I see you online, which isn't often. Hope to "see" you soon.
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