Chat Thread: March 28 - April 3 - Page 12

I can answer from the perspective of a mom with significant nutritional deficiencies, and two kids with very different facial structures (my daughter is a clone of DH, my son isn't--maybe a little like me in the jawline, maybe my SIL and BIL, it's hard to be sure, but clearly not DH).

My kids have very different manifestations of their nutritional deficiencies--and Price said these deficiencies are mostly fat-soluble vitamins, A, D, and K2--it is rare, very rare, for people to actually consume anywhere near as much of these things as Price discussed. Good nutrition, the Price definition, barely happens in the US, which is why I think we have such a hard time recognizing it. We're mostly looking at versions of less-than-adequate.

I put up pics in the "metal look" page that whoMe linked to.

My daughter (1st child)--pinched middle third of the face, posterior TT, high, arched palate, and irregularly spaced teeth.

My son (I was far more nutritionally depleted for him than for my daughter)--very symmetric, evenly spaced teeth, even the crowding of his bottom jaw, which is where he mostly shows his deficiencies, he has quite the heart-shaped face--a little pinched in the middle third of the face, but mostly the heart-shaped jawline, anterior and posterior TTs, high, arched palate.

I believe that if/when I ever get my nutrition right, my kids won't have tongue ties, they won't have the heart-shaped jaw thing, and their nostrils will be wider. But I don't know exactly how they'll look--if you pop over to whoMe's link, you'll see that my kids' basic face shapes are quite different, and I don't think that is at all problematic, that part is genetic. And how each of them manifest the nutritional deficiencies is genetic (depending on who they mostly take after). So if I can correct this with diet and getting rid of the high toxic load and cranial-sacral, then they'll look very different from each other, but both will look the healthiest they can.

First, to Susannah and Jacqueline, I can't imagine the stress and fear.

We're using EcoDent tooth powder. We use cinnamon, I hear lemon-lime is good, but peppermint is a bit too strong. It's no-fluoride, for those that care one way or the other, and it's supposed to promote remineralization. And it's tasty, I think.

I remember that coming up with the lead, but I have no idea why, or what exactly is going on. Wish I could help with that one.

Personally I believe it is, and I think the only reason the kids haven't had issues is that I'm supplementing up the wazoo (well, actually orally). I'm guessing that to overcome impaired mineral transport, you need to make digestion at least halfway decent, and then have extra high levels of minerals and fat soluble vitamins. I can say that, strangely enough, my son's teeth are pretty. Crowded, yes, but they're a very attractive white color, and I'm guessing it's because he absorbs/digests better than my daughter and I supplement to the heavens. I need to work more on my daughter's digestion. And this is why I am in the pills-are-good camp. : I know I have such a skewed view, and I still admire getting most everything from food, but I've sorta copped out on it for now (it's still a long-term goal though, really!).

Thanks. They're cuter when they smile--I really did look for neutral pics--it's easier to see facial structure (the midline/Price issues) and I hoped it'd be easier to see the metal look thing too.

I have no idea if they fit sonnambula's description, I really have a hard time reading about something and then seeing if what I'm looking at matches. I'd love to hear her opinion, I'd trust that WAY more than my own. And honestly, I have very little perspective with kids, I don't think I do good with faces in general(I remember thinking all the guys at my high school looked the same, and I knew that was pathetic at the time, I'm just that bad with faces).

Thanks. The Price/midline stuff (in my mind it really overlaps, it's two different descriptions of the same phenomenon) is really obvious to me, and I see it in myself as well. The v in my teeth, my tongue is just slightly heart-shaped (vs my husband's is pointy like a spear), but DH and I both have high, arched palates. And it's just more intense in the kids, so that stuff I really see. And I have this hope/goal of being able to at least reduce the intensity, and maybe make it go away altogether, by the time they're, say, entering their teen years, and then if I can feed them right then, then hopefully they'll get fairly close to their potential. Whether I can do this, with nutrition or financially for stuff like CST, I just don't know.

Knowing I have significant nutritional deficits (and a lot of the improvements I've seen, like my son getting sick less, seem nutritional in nature), it seems easier to see it in the kids. And it really brings home Price's descriptions and pics from Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. For us, it all seems to fit together, and the toxicity is just the thing that made our nutritional deficiencies obvious.

double post again... having such difficulty seeing/reading/responding at MDC in the past few days!

Chlobo, from pages ago, was that your bowel tolerance amt of vitamin C? And how much was it, if I may ask?

CS--the right person will come to you--it's better to weed this person out now than have to deal with them when you're in the middle of actually purchasing a house, eh?

Interesting note on houses--when we moved to Houston, we looked and found a really neat house, very cool yard, neat architectural stuff, but it was a fixer-upper. Price was good, and I _think_ the work was stuff either we could do or we could contract out, but we put in an offer and lost out. Turns out that's the best thing ever, we would've had serious stress either trying to fix it up, or having to live with the problems (there was a wall with no drywall, things like that) because I think I overestimated how much we could've gotten done (energy-wise) and our finances have been more strained than we originally anticipated. So although it seemed like such a cool house at the time, it really wasn't a good fit. Sometimes in retrospect, these things pop out at you.