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Vent: I do not understand how this is "discipline"

post #1 of 7
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2.5yo DS is playing outside with neighbor's 3yo DS. They play nicely for awhile. Then NDS pushes my DS. Not hard, just playing--the neighbors all play rough (3 boys).

Mom (who is actually miraculously outside--usually she has her 5.5yo "watch" the 3yo) yells at NDS "Don't push!" and then tells MY DS to push HER DS back. So it's "even". She tells her DS to "Stand still so he can push you!" He says "no" and keeps playing with my DS (but not pushing anymore).

She says "Come here, (NDS), I wanna whisper a secret in your ear!" He comes over to her, she grabs him by the arms and restrains him, and then tells my DS "Come and push him! It's okay come push him!" My DS is obviously very confused (we, uh, DON'T HURT PEOPLE AT OUR HOUSE and she says "Okay, I'll push him for you". And then she pushes NDS just hard enough to knock him on his butt. And then--GET THIS--she says "Now DON'T PUSH!"

So let me get this straight. You're trying to force my child into doing something that you're punishing your child for. Then you're going to DO to your child what you're punishing him for. Way to think...



Later on in the playing her NDS was whining because he wanted my DS to get out of his electric car thing. No biggie, I go to get my DS out (because he's been in there awhile anyway and it's NDS's turn). Mom hears the whining, pulls NDS out of the car by his feet, holds him upside down and pops his butt. Puts NDS down, who immediately goes right back to doing what he was doing.



And this falls under a totally different category altogether. I am sick of watching the 3yo. Usually the 5.5yo is "watching" the 3yo, but on this particular day their 16yo aunt was babysitting. AKA Myspace-ing inside, while the 3yo and 5.5yo were inside. Well, the 5.5yo wanted to go down the street to play so he puts the 3yo inside. He leaves, and the 3yo comes outside w/ me and Jake. And wants to play in the road. I tell him no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He tries to LURE Jake into the road. I tell him Jake can't play in the road. He says YES he can. We ARGUE (WTF?) until finally I get so frustrated that WE all go inside (and I keep watching the 3yo through my window to make sure he isn't in the street, until the 5.5yo gets back, because he refused to go inside).

ARGH. VENT: I WANT TO TAKE MY KIDS OUTSIDE TO PLAY. I WANT TO PLAY OUTSIDE. WITHOUT MY SON SPENDING THE NEXT THREE DAYS SAYING "I POP YOU I POP YOU!" ::::: AND WITHOUT BABYSITTING EVERYONE ELSE'S KIDS!!!!! (And then, as if it make up for it, tell me that it's okay for ME to pop YOUR kid when YOU'RE not around! Because mom is always yelling for her 5.5yo to pop the 3yo )

Why is it so hard to, uh, PARENT your kids around here?






Thanks. I feel better now.
post #2 of 7
Oh man- I'd seriously feel like moving!!
post #3 of 7
Oh man- I would seriously feel like moving!!
post #4 of 7
yikes!!! Have you tried talking to her? Not really sure what you could say... sounds like very unstable illogical discipline to me.
post #5 of 7
Oh dear - its bad enough when people have these strange ideas, but to also try and get your DS in on it too!!! Something similar happened to us once at a playgroup - my DS was playing with a toy that another little boy took. So the mother of the other little boy told my DS to just grab it back! (We don't snatch and I dont think snatching to teach one not to snatch is a good message/let alone very confusing for a small child!)
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Originally Posted by sunnymw View Post
. He tries to LURE Jake into the road. I tell him Jake can't play in the road. He says YES he can. We ARGUE (WTF?) until finally
just an aside, this is 3 year old semantics, you say Jake can't go in the road, obviously he can go in the road, his legs work, there is no wall. He is not permitted to go in the road may be a bit clearer to NDS. I had similar issues with DD around that age, when some one said she couldn't do something that she obviously could do.

(totally agreeing with your rant though especially about the truly messed up concept of "discipline")
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Originally Posted by Calidris View Post
just an aside, this is 3 year old semantics, you say Jake can't go in the road, obviously he can go in the road, his legs work, there is no wall. He is not permitted to go in the road may be a bit clearer to NDS. I had similar issues with DD around that age, when some one said she couldn't do something that she obviously could do.

(totally agreeing with your rant though especially about the truly messed up concept of "discipline")
Absolutely right--I was typing quickly , but I did say Jake is not "allowed" in the road.





And as a side note, we ARE moving (more reasons than that though--although it's a big part of it. The adults even are SO LOUD and OBNOXIOUS! And there's 9 ppl in the 2br duplex... we're talking 850 sq ft maybe!!

Okay, mini rant over
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