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Whew! Survived the circ talk with MIL.

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I live in Michigan where our circ rate is sadly very high. I don't know very many people with intact boys. My husband is circ'ed and so is every male in his family--that I know of.

So I was just waiting for MIL to bring up the subject after my son was born. I wasn't going to go bringing it up if I didn't have to.

She said, "So I know he's not a circ baby. Did you know that you have to push it back and clean it out or he'll get poop and sores and infections, blah, blah, blah." I said, "Actually you're not supposed to push it back at all, just clean externally." She said, "Who told you that?" I said, "That's the current medical recommendation." I also mentioned that my midwife told me that, and the baby's doctor agrees with it also. She said, "For his sake, I sure hope you're right."

Anyway, she went off on some other myths about circ and also mentioned how my son "not being like other boys" is a concern. I said, "Well in Michigan the circ rate is high, but that's not the way it is worldwide. Also in the U.S. the circ rate is about 50/50. Do you really think that 50% of boys are going to be making fun of the other 50%?" I said, "Anyway I don't personally care if the circ rate was 99%, I will do what I feel is right for my kids." She said, "And I did what I felt was right for mine." I said, "Yep, that's all you can do, and now we get our shot at doing what we feel is right for ours."

She said, "You've always been one to pick the radical viewpoint." Me: "How is it radical if 80% of the world's men aren't circ'ed?"

At the end, I said, "So, now that we've discussed the whole circ/uncirc thing, do you feel confident in changing his diapers? Remember you NEVER, EVER retract his foreskin! Just clean it externally." She said, "Yes, I'd never go messing around with it."

SIGH. I'm sad that such a discussion even has to come up. I mean, really, I'm radical because I didn't do unnecessary cosmetic surgery on my newborn son's genitals? I'm still processing my sadness over the conversation. Why should I be made to feel "radical" for leaving my son the way he was born?

Maybe my MIL is trying to make herself feel okay about her choice to circ my DH and BIL?

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Maybe my MIL is trying to make herself feel okay about her choice to circ my DH and BIL?
That's precisely the case! Good for you for so diplomatically and firmly standing up for your decision and your son's health. It sounds like even though it was a difficult conversation that you had a good outcome. It's hard as mothers to process that we might truly have made a mistake in raising our children. At least she's willing to respect your decision even if she doesn't (yet) agree with it.

If it's any comfort, I was wholly expecting to get a bad response from my family and my husband's when our views on circumcision came up in conversation. It turned into a rather thought-provoking discussion though and a few months later my MIL thoroughly embarrassed my husband by flinging her arms around his neck after a family dinner and apologizing to him for having part of his "little baby penis cut off!" Poor guy. He was mortified, but she was genuinely asking for forgiveness.

All that to say give her time. She may surprise you and come around. Just warn your husband if you spot any symptoms of an enthusiastic change of heart.
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Originally Posted by blessedmommy2006 View Post
maybe my mil is trying to make herself feel okay about her choice to circ my dh and bil?


bingo!
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Overall, it sounded like it went very well! You had an answer for every myth she threw at you!

Me... I'm terrified of the day I'll have to confront my boyfriend's mother (who has already insisted that MY son will be circed). : So your story gives me courage.
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Overall, it sounded like it went very well! You had an answer for every myth she threw at you!

Me... I'm terrified of the day I'll have to confront my boyfriend's mother (who has already insisted that MY son will be circed). : So your story gives me courage.
Wow, she's a little bold on that. Just stand up to her if she gives you grief. You can do it! Maybe she believes myths about intact care or cleanliness and needs a little education, just like my MIL.
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Maybe my MIL is trying to make herself feel okay about her choice to circ my DH and BIL?
To be perfectly honest, I am almost never the one who says "o they are probably doing this because they feel guilty about being/getting their son circed, since its a big assumption to make. But when your MIL said this:
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She said, "And I did what I felt was right for mine." I said, "Yep, that's all you can do, and now we get our shot at doing what we feel is right for ours."
There was NO DOUBT in my mind that the entire conversation she started was because she felt if your son turned out intact and ok, then she would have made a MAJOR parenting mistake. Since thats true, don't take ANYTHING she said seriously and dont let it bother you. She was getting defensive, not really talking to you, but really just trying to keep it all ok in her own head.

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Why should I be made to feel "radical" for leaving my son the way he was born?
You shouldn't. As a young circed guy I can say you not radical. Men, women, boys, girls, circed and intact, many people from all these groups do not find your choice to be radical. Nationally this group is growing every day, and internationally the response you get is a big fat "duh!"

For a guy who have their foreskins, and ones like me who see the cut lines where it should have been, there is nothing radical about your choice, its the obvious choice.

This decision is only radical in the mind of the woman desperately trying convince herself she did not make a mistake. Don't feel radical for correcting one of the biggest wrongs American parents have been committing for over a hundred years now. Feel proud.
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You haven't done ANYTHING! I never understood how people could think leaving a person they way they are born could damage them!!

I will admit that I get nervous about telling people I'm having a boy. Its one thing to talk about circ its another to talk about what a parent should do with their child.

Like you can tell me how you circed your kids all day long. Do not tell me that I need to circ mine. I will tell you "no thank you, I don't mutilate children" :
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