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post #21 of 50
I would have felt incredibly betrayed. I'm so sorry, but glad you have this forum to retreat to.
post #22 of 50
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I hate April Fools day.....

I'm sorry that your family did that to you
post #23 of 50
Sounds like something my mom would do. I'm sorry your family has turned deaf ears to you trying to teach them the truth about circumcision.

Ugh, what a SICK JOKE!
post #24 of 50
I am so sorry that you and your nephew were so deeply hurt in such a cruel way. I'm offering you and your nephew lots of 's.

Anything else I might say about them is a UA violation .
post #25 of 50
As a trial lawyer little appalls me any more. But this does. Particularly since your mother participated. Not only was it cruel, but it made light of a very, very serious subject.

After two weeks spent in trial on a badly botched circ I cannot fathom how doctors can continue to do this. Really. It is so perverted in so many ways.

But the power of the mindset of the mainstream is very great indeed. That is why we must work to change it. Once being intact becomes the mainstream the jokes will stop.

I hope the circ is not botched for your nephew's sake.

It is simple - you are right - morally and intellectually - and they are wrong. Keep your head up!!

Dave
post #26 of 50
Heartbreaking. I am so sorry. I am holding back tears. That is awful.

UAV.
post #27 of 50
I felt sick to my stomach when I read your post.


I'm sorry that this happened to you.
post #28 of 50
I am nauseated.

How anybody could even joke... that's just beyond terrible. I honestly would not be able to forget this one.

I mean for crying out loud... "Hey, this unecessary surgery we're performing on an unconsenting child's genitals? That could possibly result in outright mutilation or even death? It's so frickin' funny! Let's tease the one member of our family who has empathy and believes in human rights about it!"

I am just ill. I don't know whether I'd yell, cry, or vomit.
post #29 of 50
Your story made me *cry*. What a horrible thing to do to you and that little one. I can't believe how callous your family was about the situation.
post #30 of 50
some people shouldn't have children. Big hugs to you and that poor child.
post #31 of 50
very ignorant and immature sorry (((((hugs)))))
post #32 of 50
Your Mom's behavior was very, very wrong. Really I am shocked. How much of a relationship do you have with her? I don't know you or her, but I think a little distance from your Mom could help.

Hugs.
post #33 of 50
That was just so mean spirited. I am so pissed that your family could be so cruel to you, not to mention their own baby. I am sorry they did that to you and of course so sad they are choosing to mutilate their baby.

I don't know how I could be around them again after that, it would be very hard.
post #34 of 50
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Originally Posted by SleeplessMommy View Post
Your Mom's behavior was very, very wrong. Really I am shocked. How much of a relationship do you have with her? I don't know you or her, but I think a little distance from your Mom could help.
I can't say that I am extremely close to anyone in my family, but I do what I need to to maintain a relationship. We intentionally live 1000+ miles away from all of my family members. Dh's parents are both dead and his siblings are friendly, but much older and we only hear from them a few times/year and see them every few years save for his brother who calls weekly.

These are my kids' only close family members and the only cousins they ever see. Their cousins on dh's side are my age. My girls do value their relationships with these cousins and their grandparents. (My parents are divorced, so they have a step-grandparent with both my mom and dad.) Both of my parents have issues. My dad would give the shirt off his back for me or my kids, but he was abusive when I was growing up and had alcohol and other problems. My mother can be self rightous and self-centered.

All of the family members with whom I had real rapport are dead now. What really does get to me is that my mother is closer to my SIL than she is me and I hear constantly about what a great mom my SIL is and get regular advice from my mother on how I should parent more like her, relate to my dh more like she does her dh, etc.
post #35 of 50
I would be crushed, as you were. I think you should let your mom know how it hurt you and why. Then, try to let it go. I doubt she did it to be mean.

I wonder if your brother really did watch the video. If he did and then actually went through with the circ, then that's just sad.
post #36 of 50
Oh my goodness...this is the cruelest thing I've ever read. I can't believe this is *family* you're talking about. I wish they had been more considerate of your feelings. I'm so so sorry they played this awful joke on you.
And to joke about the torture and mutilation of a baby? Oh, no...no. no. NO. Not ever, ever appropriate.
post #37 of 50
This is so mean and so sick, OMG! I would make a POINT to call your mom and explain her that the pain (and the bosy part loss) of this precious inocent baby is 100% HER FAULT. Had she not mutilated her son or had the guts to talk to him and admit her mistake (share her regret) this baby would have been spared.

By the way, perhaps it's not too late to do that. Who knows, perhaps a light will finally go off for her and she will call her son saying just how sorry she is and asking to spare the baby...
post #38 of 50
Putting the whole circumcision issue aside for a moment.

These were family members who mocked you on the deepest level over an issue they KNEW was important to you.

Imagine if your SIL worked against suicides (maybe because of some past trauma with a friend) and you called her up yesterday sobbing, saying your husband was about commit suicide, and needed help. You hand over the phone he talks for a few minutes, like he is only getting worse, and then suddenly you both burst out laughing over the phone and say "April Fools!!!"


I wish those family members could be in the same room as some of us, and as they tell this story thinking it was funny, they can see the look of total disgust for them on our faces.

I know your not keeping close contact with these people, but you should let them know how disgusted you are with them. And if they say they dont understand, tell them they should evaluate how understanding they are of the people around them.

And if it gets real bad say "If you do not realize how much that hurt me, your either a horrible person and a lier, or just plain stupid."
post #39 of 50
Wow. I don't think I could have held back. I've been pretty snotty to people when they've said things in support of it in response to me being against.
I'm sorry for your nephew and for you, for having to deal with it.
post #40 of 50
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Originally Posted by Dave2GA View Post
As a trial lawyer little appalls me any more. But this does. Particularly since your mother participated. Not only was it cruel, but it made light of a very, very serious subject.

After two weeks spent in trial on a badly botched circ I cannot fathom how doctors can continue to do this. Really. It is so perverted in so many ways.

But the power of the mindset of the mainstream is very great indeed. That is why we must work to change it. Once being intact becomes the mainstream the jokes will stop.

I hope the circ is not botched for your nephew's sake.

It is simple - you are right - morally and intellectually - and they are wrong. Keep your head up!!

Dave
Well said . I also don't get how many more damaged /botched circumcision including deaths from circumcision to get how totally 'wrong it is for Doctors Messing with a Natural part of the body.

Too bad there is no Irl rafiki the monkey from lion king because your family needs him to bonk them on the head .

Like it took about 3 times of simba getting bonked on the head because he wasn't thinking then the 4th time he finally prevented himself from
getting bonked on the head.

I would say send to your sister in law and brother that 'sick cold blog, botched and death from circumcision.

Say this may still be your son he could still end up with a botched circ and it's not funny to joke about the chances you put on your son.
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