milder case because of being vaxed?

[mommy2two babes]

Can someone please give me info about this?
Both my brother and I had whooping cough as kids even though we were vaccinated against it. The doctor had told my Mom we got a milder case for this reason. We had it for 6 mos coughing until we puked, thats a mild case?
My Nephew has chicken pox after being vaccinated less than a year ago.
His Mom was also told he got a milder case for this reason.

[fascha]

I would love some more info on this too...

I have a hard time believing that this can be proven and have often regarded it as the most clever marketing sham of all.

Efficacy is not 100% so when our crappy products fail, let's just say they only failed A BIT so that people still come back for more.

Isn't it inredible that someone's child gets sick from Pertussis and instead of questioning it, they are grateful that they got the vaccine since they got the 'milder' version. This astounds me.

My hat is off to Big Pharma's marketing department!

[mommy2two babes]

No one has any info about this?

[MichelleAnnette]

How could they possibly know? Illnesses affect people differently and the reasons are rarely that crystal clear.

My younger sister and I both got chicken pox at the same time. I was 14 and she was 10. She had a very mild case. Mine was rather severe. Neither of us were vaxed for it.

[carriebft]

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...full/105/3/e31

Furthermore, of unvaccinated children with a positive PCR the majority was 3+ positive, whereas among those who had been immunized against pertussis, 2+ and 1+ positive results predominated. This is in accordance with previously published reports that had shown that confirmed cases of B pertussis infection are less severe in vaccinated than in unvaccinated children.1-46-8 Therefore, it is tempting to speculate that vaccine-induced immunity prevents extensive multiplication of the bacteria on the mucosal surfaces after infection (reflected by a moderately or weakly posititive PCR). In support of this hypothesis, it has recently been shown experimentally by a quantitative PCR method that the total number of detectable B pertussis genomes correlated well with the number of viable bacteria detected by culture.27

see studies 1-4 and 6-8 for examples of research demonstrating how immunization leads to less severe symptoms of pertussis.

[karika]

I am short tempered today since I am laying off nicotine but I want to pipe in anyway(i only smoke 1 natural cigarette a day, so i thought i could just stop again, been over 24 hrs). When I researched vaccines after the birth of dd1, it became clear to me that the vaccines cause the illnesses they are supposed to protect against much of the time. I believe this after reading info from studies on the cdc website. i am not a scientist nor do i have a degree. but to this layperson it seems pretty apparent. then after doing some reading on how the vaccines work, or rather the faulty science they are based on, I realized why they make us sick. I would rather be the 1 in 4000 or 1 in 10000 that dies than to have 1 in 50 or even the 1 in 100 that autism affects now become immuno compromised and develop side effects or illness in some way or another from injecting harmful toxins straight into the bloodstream. and people talk about nonvaxxed spreading disease, which doesn't happen now since these diseases no longer exist naturally IMO, they only come from the shots. the vax spreads the diseases IMO. I believe it is part of the big plan to make us all so stupid we wouldn't notice when all the money was taken. In conjunction with mass flouridation of municipal water, which is a known poison (look on the back of your toothpaste tube where it says if more than the amount used for brushing is swallowed call a poison control center immediately...; and that has been added to your water and ingested for many years. It is not a conspiracy theory any longer, it is a fact that is provable on so many levels. the light has been turned on and the rats are scurrying, taking with them all the bailout money they can get and hoarding all the goods and money that so many of us could use.... see this video, i have posted it before a few times, but maybe there are some that havent seen it yet. it is slow in the beginning, after a revelational first statement, but once you get into the meat of it, it is eyeopening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLYrSfnsqb0

[japonica]

I was also fully vaxed and caught pertussis. I was on 4 different antibiotics and coughed for over 10 weeks. Milder case, yeah, right.

[Emmeline II]

I was a fully vaxed, utd, adult when I had WC and I had every symptom in the book; I was afraid to move as it would provoke another coughing spasam. I was pregnant at the time, but then the vax is even more important then .

[cloak]

Originally Posted by mommy2two babes

We had it for 6 mos coughing until we puked, thats a mild case?

I would say that is not a mild case.

The pertussis vax can make the illness more mild though. I'd say the same is true for diptheria and probably polio.

For the other vaxes I'd say there is no proof it makes the diseases milder and in some cases it can make the disease worse for a period of time anyway.

I don't have time to post links and such, but that's the gist of it.

[luminesce]

I don't have links handy either but, yes, studies have shown that the pertussis vaccination likely reduces disease severity. This is probably the only somewhat reliable effect of the shot (it isn't really that good at preventing pertussis /transmission.)

[Deborah]

What complicates this is that there is some percentage of people who naturally have symptomless pertussis, vaxed or not. Which to me would indicate that some people have milder pertussis, vaxed or not. Which would mean that some percentage of the people who have been vaxed and subsequently have milder pertussis would have anyway.

I'm not arguing that the vaccine never makes pertussis milder. What I'm saying is that in any particular case it is impossible to tell what role the vaccine played, so any doctor who says: "your pertussis is milder because you were vaccinated" is not speaking on a basis of science. The correct statement would be: "your case of pertussis may have been milder because you were vaccinated."