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I'm so delighted - I had to share!

post #1 of 17
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This forum is probably the place where I spent the most time on MDC (aside from frugality & finances/simplifying), so it's the appropriate place to share this.

As many of you know, I'm an Orthodox Christian (a member of the Orthodox Church in America, to be exact). In our deanery (smaller geographical breakdown of our diocese), there is a late vocations (for men becoming permanent deacons, not going on to the priesthood) / higher education program (for lay catechists/lay leaders of both sexes). It's a 3-year program, every other Sunday afternoon for 2 hours, about 10 hours of reading a week, pretty much year round (although there's a small break around Pascha/Easter and Christmas). Classes are on spirituality, church history, canon law, OT, NT, patristics, dogmatic theology, and some others I can't remember off the top of my head, but 9 "semesters" - fall, winter, spring/summer. Non-diaconal candidates don't have to take the test for the certificate at the end, but it's very good if you do.

All of this to say - my priest asked me several weeks ago if I would consider taking this class, and I barely had to think about it before I said yes!::: You don't get in without your priest's recommendation, and I'm totally geeked that I was asked. That part is very cool!:

Just found out that we're likely to begin in June, with the spirituality class - St. John Climacus (The Ladder of Divine Ascent), St. John Cassian, St. Issac the Syrian, and others I can't remember. A close friend (and the lay catechist in my parish) finished this program last year (and LOVED it!), so I've had a source for good info - and books for the class.

It's the closest I'll get to attending seminary.

Thanks for letting me:::



Has anyone else taken any intensive classes for their denomination for lay leaders - without going to seminary, that is?
post #2 of 17
Awesome!
post #3 of 17
Do you want to go to Seminary?
post #4 of 17
Awesome news, Congrats!

I'm in my first year of a similar program (2-year) in the RC church (Formation for Ministry). It's great and I'm loving it.
post #5 of 17
Congratulations, Tradd.
post #6 of 17
Congratulations!! Let us know how it goes!
post #7 of 17
Congratulations!!!!
post #8 of 17
Congrats! What a great opportunity for you, and what a blessing for your community. : Thanks for sharing and good luck with your classes!
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by hotmamacita View Post
Do you want to go to Seminary?
If I was younger and had the cash, yes. But for three years at St. Vladimir's, the OCA seminary in New York, it's about $36K. It really wouldn't be of any real use to me, anyway. I can't interrupt my life for that amount of time. And I'm in a VERY sweet spot right now with regards to job, where I live, my parish which I LOVE, etc.

I've also got a large number of responsibilities - I was recently elected president of our area-wide pan-Orthodox association, am head of the women's group at church, and do a whole bunch of other stuff, like choir, which is my absolute favorite.

Women are not ordained in Orthodoxy, which I absolutely have no problem with.
post #10 of 17
Wow, that sounds really great! Congrats!
post #11 of 17
That sounds so interesting and fun! You'll have to keep us updated on any interesting things you learn!
post #12 of 17
:

I am so glad you decided to do it!!!
post #13 of 17
Blessings on your new journey!! :
post #14 of 17
Wow that's really exciting! Congrats! :

I'd love to hear more about your classes/topics if you ever felt like posting
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by xekomaya View Post
Wow that's really exciting! Congrats! :

I'd love to hear more about your classes/topics if you ever felt like posting
Sure will - but classes won't begin for at least another 6 weeks or so.
post #16 of 17
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Just wanted to give an update:

Our first semester began today, it's on Orthodox spirituality. We're meeting six Saturdays from 10-2 for the summer. Next meeting is not until July 11, due to the 4th of July. Mostly every other Saturday. We got the syllabus on Sunday. I had about 200 pages to go through for our first session today. The readings are large. However, we were told that we can skim and concentrate on what interests us more individually. Most of the readings are texts onlne, although the instructor is making copies of excerpts on some things. Only having to buy a few books for this semester. For this first session, we read:

Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice - ca. 150 BC, from the Qumran Essene community, breakaway Jewish sect
Odes of Solomon - ca. mid-2nd Century AD Christian
Gospel of Thomas - one of the "Gnostic Gospels" although my instructor (a phd candidate at Marquette) says it's debatable if it's fully Gnostic, as it doesn't exhibit full-blown Gnosticism
Epistle of St. Ignatius of Antioch to the Ephesians - early 2nd Century Christian
Ascension of Isaiah - ca. mid-2nd Century Christan
Clement of Alexandria, Book 7 of the "Stromata" - late-2nd/early 3rd Century Christian

We were assigned the "not quite Orthodox" (lol) readings to give us historical continuity of the spirituality of the time. Definitely made for some interesting reading.

I have something like 300 pages for the next meeting, but I'm really enjoying this. The instructor for this semester is very engaging and interesting with a freakish sense of humor that makes class enjoyable. :-)
post #17 of 17
Oh, how absolutely thrilling! I'm so pleased for you and can't wait to read updates. It is quite a statement to YOU that you were asked. That must feel phenomenal! :
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