still here and still pregnant!
post #61 of 70
4/22/09 at 3:57am
I haven't read through all the replies, so forgive me in advance if these have been covered:
1. I'd drink more water (I tend to get contractions when not properly hydrated)
2. I'd discontinue the use of any supplements with red raspberry leaf (they give me contractions)
3. I'd go to a chiro for an adjustment
Again, these are things that have helped me in the past get rid of annoying/painful contractions.
ok so I'm not much into interventions... well I thought I wasn't, until I have had more than 3 weeks of on and off labour. prodromal labour. and I am SORE. I ache on every part of my body. no amount of sleep, resting, meditating, talking to the baby, walking, sitting still or any other thing is helping. I am only worse. it's so bad I can hardly stand up now! (seriously, the baby is that low and I have PSD) i'm been stuck in a chair, sofa or bed for days and it's only getting worse.
I'm in pain frankly. so I'm thinking of trying a few milder things. But I have a little concern b/c I'm a VBACer. granted this will be my second vaginal after a c/s nearly 9 years ago, but I still want to use precaution. the last thing I want is to be hasty and then end up rupturing!!
any thoughts on these herbs for "helping things along" for VBACers?
(I have a little mixture a friend gave me with all of these herbs)
I've never used anything like this b/c I never thought I'd want to induce labour. but I'm already labouring, and baby is all but sitting inside my vagina, so I'm not sure what else I'm waiting on.
I'm actually a little ashamed... I always thought I would stick it through. and be tougher. and see it through the end. I'm kinda mad at myself for considering this. but I'm also hurting so badly!! I'm scared my physical tension might be making it hard for baby to come... no matter how much my mind relaxes my body is too tired to relax anymore. bleh
also herbalist here and I don't like this combo either and I know that several formulas are made up like this-- and it is true that there is some action either irritant or stimulating on the uterus but several of the herbs are toxic- or can be toxic depending on how they are administered
pennyroyal- so in small amounts and like a tea the English have used it as flavoring for pudding- but what it is used for mainly is to KILL lice and is neuro toxic-
blue Cohosh- caulyphyllum - Paul Bergner wrote a decent historic article on its use you can down load the bit from Journal of Medical Herbalism 2001-- http://medherb.com/bi/home.htm
and a more recent full text review/article written by a Canadian doc-Can J Clin Pharmacol Vol 15 (1) Winter 2008: e66-e73; January 18, 2008
SAFETY AND EFFICACY OF BLUE COHOSH (Caulophyllum Thalictroides)
DURING PREGNANCY AND LACTATION
Jean-Jacques Dugoua1,2,3, Daniel Perri4, Dugald Seely3,5, Edward Mills6, Gideon Koren1,4
basically tea or tincture is probably ok- for a labor stimulant (very time focused use) CAPSULES are not ok
Lobelia - small doses even for adults are the norm but you have to think about how much of mom's dose is getting into the baby- so something safe and comfortable for mom can be toxic to babe- over the years I have seen 2 cases one early on 27 yrs ago and the other more recently (mom was an dr Christopher trained herbalist) who took a similar combo with some extra lobelia on the side- the babies had eye rolling and what looked to me like seizures but went away when the herbs were discontinued- mom the most recent one mom stopped taking the formula after the birth ( because I said could be making a problem) but decided to take the lobelia for after pains and when she took it the baby had a couple other bouts of eye rolling and then had apnea- met her at the hospital(when we talked she mentioned the lobelia and so I recommended to stop taking it)- transferred to a larger hospital they had an overnight stay at maybe 9 days postpartum all tests were fine - the hospital was a whole other circus but that is another topic so we haven't seen any lasting effects but I would not recommend a pregnant or nursing mom to take it ever