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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Sigh. It's so exhausting. My kids are 2 & 4. I'd really like to go to mass (Catholic) more often, but it's exhausting. I go to the children's mass, so there's no expectation of absolute quiet. But. It's a constant challenge to keep my 2 yo seated (meaning in the pew and close to me, not wandering down the aisle or jumping around - I'm not asking for perfectly still, folded hand sitting here)and relatively quiet. My 4 yo would be kind of ok, until her little brother gets her going.

It's better if we're right up front so they can see the "action" but I don't always get there early enough (plus getting there earlier adds more time to the whole endeavor). I bring books/a quiet toy for them, but that doesn't get us through 45 minutes. I can go out back to the vestibule, where people are w/toddlers, but then the kids just totally run wild, which kind of defeats the purpose.

Any tips I'm missing? When does it get better?

I'm single so I'm the only adult with them.
post #2 of 11
I have a 1 and a 3 year old and my husband is not Catholic and does not attend Mass with us. It is almost always a challenge. I decided that I want my 3 year old to understand that Mass is not just another place in which she can do what she always does - play with toys, be loud, eat snacks, drink, etc. I don't want her laying in the pew, asking to go to the bathroom every Mass or thinking it is OK to be disruptive by talking, yelling, etc. This is a tall order because she is little. But I'd rather set the bar high now and have her learn that this is a participatory service and that other people are trying to focus and participate in the liturgy and that she can disrupt them and it is rude to do so.

So, with all that said I've made compromises. At 3 (almost 4) she IS capable of being quiet and non disruptive. I know other parents would say that is too much to ask, but she can do it and I do think it is because I haven't given her excuses to think otherwise. We do pack a small bag of picture books about Jesus, a Mary doll I found on Etsy, and add other various things in from time to time. I don't always expect her to stand up, kneel but she has to sit quietly.
Just having the expectation in place and trying to help her understand reverence on a 3 year old level has really helped us in the last few months. I do try and attend a Mass on Sunday in which there is children's church so she can get a 20 minute period of interaction with peers and age appropriate religious education, and that has helped as well.

I also think you shouldn't stress too much about it. There is *always* a kid at Mass who is going to have a melt down, a baby who is crying because they are tired/hungry/overstimulated, etc. Our church has a lot of young families and there is always a constant rumble in the congregation from their fidgeting and outbursts. Everyone seems to be very understanding and I've almost always had the people sitting around/behind me "help" me when my kids get out of hand by distracting them from their upset by playing a quick peek a boo or something.

My baby is MUCH harder to deal with. He wants to crawl and touch and see everything. He is too little to expect him to be able to make it through the service quietly without a lot of help - toys, cheerios, cup of water, playsilks, etc. are always in the bag and I just go with the flow trying different things to help keep him quiet. I generally sit with friends so if I have to walk him out for a bit because he is too loud my friends are there for my daughter to sit with.

Anyway, this was a long way of saying that I don't think anyone attending Mass expects small children to be perfectly quiet and still throughout the service. Do your best and don't let them just be wild. That actually makes me a little crazy when I see parents who just let their kids jump up and down, bang toys, and create an elaborate picnic for them in the pews - I really think most 3+ year olds can get through Mass without a peanut butter sandwich and 4 trips to the bathroom.
post #3 of 11

church and kids

Mine are 2 and 3. I go late to church. I used to keep them in a double stroller and stay standing in the back. Lots of people stand so it is not a big deal. Now I put the youngest in a monkey leash and the oldest is great standing by me. We move around a lot. We go to the chapel and pray when they get antsy. They usually need to use the potty and that kills time and is something different for them. I have found finding a pew where they have to sit very close to someone makes them shy sometimes and act better. Toys don't work for us. Candy sometimes buys 20 min but that is a trap in itself. I hate to bribe. I think sitting next to friends helps and moving about every 20 min. It is hard but I think we need to make the sacrifice for the betterment of our kids. I feel like pulling my hair out a lot. My kids seem to love church but I feel when it gets too much it is best to leave on a good note. I used to only go for 20 min and now we are at 45 min to an hour. Good luck to all of you.
post #4 of 11
We've seen lots of these threads over the years. Aside from sitting up front, some suggestions have been:

hanging out in the vestibule/out back
having a small bag of quiet toys/books that is ONLY for Mass and no other time (so its more desirable)
non-messy snacks

And, if all else fails - does your church offer nursery care and/or a preschool class during Mass? I generally advocate children being present at Mass, but I know how hard it is to manage little ones alone and I'd encourage single parents to take advantage of any care offered.

Another suggestion I have is to ask around and find out if there might be a teen or two who would be willing to sit with you and help out with the kids. Our youth group offers this service to moms who attend Mass with small children. The youth group kids can earn community service for National Honor Society, Scouts, etc.; and the moms get the helping hand they need!
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by spero View Post

Another suggestion I have is to ask around and find out if there might be a teen or two who would be willing to sit with you and help out with the kids. Our youth group offers this service to moms who attend Mass with small children. The youth group kids can earn community service for National Honor Society, Scouts, etc.; and the moms get the helping hand they need!
This is a great suggestion! I had no idea that this could be potentially available at my parish. The friends I sit with have a 9 year old daughter who has been a huge help with keeping my 3 year old daughter quiet. Older kids really can be a huge help with little ones.
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by Charbeau View Post
This is a great suggestion! I had no idea that this could be potentially available at my parish.
If it isn't available, I suggest asking the youth minister or DRE in your parish to consider making it a community service project for teens.
post #7 of 11

thanks

The suggestion is wonderful. Heck, I would pay an hourly wage for some help.
post #8 of 11
hugs to you!

You might also want to try to take the children to a Daily Mass ..... more exposure, less going on, a little shorter in duration. I try to go as often as possible, in the hopes that my wee ones will learn how to behave.
There have been many days when I have gone to Mass, only have NO IDEA what was said, since I was so busy with the children.
post #9 of 11

That is so funny

I know what you mean. I have to tell myself to pray at church since I am there. It is so hard with kids. This is one thing nobody tells you when you are pg. I keep thinking next year I will get to pray more at Church.
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll ask about older children who might be available to help. I think I'll start talking with my 4 yo a bit about the importance of mass, how to behave, etc. In general, I get much better behavioral results when we discuss expectations in advance. I don't know why I hadn't thought to do this with mass.

I know it will get easier - it's easier now than it was 6 months ago!
post #11 of 11
I was surprised that my very active and physical ds1, just turned 5, stayed in the pew all through a very overcrowded and hot Easter Mass, colored his pictures, drank some water (it was HOT) and was very "good". Honestly I thought he might pass out at the end of it, it was so uncomfortable and stuffy. (I was wondering where the fire marshall was, with all the once-a-year parishioners standing around the pews and blocking the walkways.) I felt a little guilty about making ds1 stick it out. He usually goes to a brief Children's Liturgy program during the Homily, which breaks it up for him.

My 2.5 yr old ds2 totally refused to stay in his seat, due to the stuffiness. Dh and I took turns going out to the foyer with him. There is no children's program or nursery for his age group but he usually will stick out a service, if I've packed good quiet activities for him. He does need 2 or 3 "bathroom breaks" to make it work -- really, he just needs to walk out to the restroom and back to work his wiggles out.

We are trying to get away from the snacks for them, but I do bring water for them and my attention is still mostly focused on them during the service.

I've definitely seen younger children than mine who were lots better at sitting still, though

ETA -- yes it is exhausting, and I have another adult there with me most weeks. I admire you for working so hard at it, ToastyToes

I think the suggestion to approach the parish for some kind of support/find a teen to help is BRILLIANT. Hope it works!
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