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post #21 of 31
I wouldn't worry too much about an estimated weight.

I was supposed to have a 9+ pounder by the estimations. I ended up with a tiny kid who wasn't even 7 pounds. We think they were estimating the weight of the placenta (or possibly fluid weight) instead of the kid.
post #22 of 31
Thread Starter 
I just talked to my midwife. His head is measuring at 72%, his shoulders and chest is were in the 90's and that is why they are so concerned... they're saying that they are worried about shoulder dystocia.

I just don't know... with my first two boys everything was so easy, planned... I was SURE that things were ok. This one was not unplanned, but he was unexpected (we were supposed to start trying the month after I found out I was pg) and its been a roller coaster ever since. With the first two, I was CERTAIN of the outcome... I just felt it in my bones. This one has been all uncertainty and issues and I know 2 pg's are not the same, but I don't have that bone deep feeling that all is well. And, I don't know if its because there have been so many issues (didnt know a due date, they sent me for an u/s... had issues at 20 weeks with 2 downs markers, etc... )
post #23 of 31
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Originally Posted by umbrella View Post
It does happen sometimes that babies are too big to get out naturally, or to get out naturally without getting hurt.
Shoulder dystocia is not a problem related to size. It is a problem involving the rotation of the shoulders through the pelvis. A small baby is just as likely to have shoulder dystocia as a big baby is. True CPD (where the baby truly cannot fit through the pelvic outlet) is extremely rare, and generally happens in the case of a malformation of the pelvis - often associated with rickets. But once the head has already emerged, it's a bit ridiculous to claim CPD - the head generally has the largest circumference of any body part.

And u/s estimates of weight can be off by over a pound at any time past the first trimester. They are not an accurate estimation of weight at all, although many doctors treat them as gospel. If they are estimating your baby at 6lb, 8 oz right now, that baby may in fact be only 5 lbs, or as much as 8... they really have no way of knowing.
post #24 of 31
I believe the concern would be the fact that a large baby could be a sign of GD, not that it's more difficult to birth. You obviously have experience birthing good sizes babes.
post #25 of 31
Thread Starter 
thank you guys!!! It so helps to hear you guys spouting what I KNOW is true... its A LOT harder for me to think of it myself as I have drs (that i dont trust) and midwives (that i DO) telling me these scary things... add to the doubt I already had and well... i guess its easy to scare me right now...

Sad thing is... I've really liked my midwives up til now - they've been my prenatal care since Nic... they minimized vbac risks (told me about them but didnt scare me - were very reassuring and confident). They didnt touch a breech delivery and sent me right to the OR, but I figured that would have happened anyway (he turned breech day before and it wasn't something I thought was a possibility so had NO ideas at that point).... (sigh)

I guess I'll shoot a quick note out to my holistic moms network and see if anyone knows of anyone that will NOT scare me about delivering a large baby... Seriously, this is why i HATE intervention. Such a snowball effect. I KNEW i should have cancelled this u/s when no one could give me a valid reason to have it past "for peace of mind"...
post #26 of 31
I know I am coming in late on this but I wanted to add my two cent.

I think it's ridiculous that doctors are making you feel this way! I gave birth to a baby boy who was 8.6. I was over 10lbs, my husband was as well. His sister was 12lbs! I think of an 8 pounder as small.
Good luck mama and stick to your guns!
post #27 of 31
Quote:
thank you guys!!! It so helps to hear you guys spouting what I KNOW is true... its A LOT harder for me to think of it myself as I have drs (that i dont trust) and midwives (that i DO) telling me these scary things... add to the doubt I already had and well... i guess its easy to scare me right now...
If you've had trust in these midwives up until now, then why doesn't that previous trust matter anymore? Maybe they're onto something, if they were already reasonably factual about other risks?
post #28 of 31
Yeah, I'd just let it go. It's the head circumference that makes the vagina walls spread anyway, not fat. Fat squishes. Plus, their little heads are made of plates that overlap to squeeze through your already falling apart pelvic bones, due to loosening hormones.

This coming from a 7lb twin to a 7lb sister at 37 weeks, big sis to a 10lb, 11,8lb and 12,3lb siblings. My mums vag is just fine.
post #29 of 31
like others said I think its for doctors to cover thier butts once in a while a baby really big gets stuck or has issues so now doctors all want to deliver small babies to avoid problems by induction or C sec whhich I think cause more problems than a big they can alway do anmd emergency C if needed

I was 10.3 my hubbby was 10.2
my first was 9.11
2nd 8.14
3rd 9.2
guessing this one will be over 9 too!

All vaginal births

Dont worry about it
post #30 of 31
Trust you instinct on this. If you don't trust your CPs then find new ones. Its NEVER too late to change. Hell, you can even fire them during labor if you want, but then you run the risk of whoever is on call at the hosp and willing to take you on.

your ob is pulling the classic big baby card used to get women to agree to inductions for size (something ACOG is against). Inductions when the body is not ready to birth means a 50% risk of a cesarean (or a 50% higher risk of c/s; I'm not sure how I should phrase that). If you have a history of big babies, and there's no GD and no other risk factors for you then you could probably tell your dr no to the tests. late term U/S is notoriously wrong - up to 2lbs wrong and drs don't tell us that when they're throwing the big baby/dead baby cards at us. U/S is not the exact science drs like to pretend it is. (oh and i've known midwives pull the same cards; a lot depends on the practice they are tied to and how they were trained.)

Don't let him bully you about post dates either. only 5% of women birth on their "due dates" There's a reason it's an EDD - Estimated date of delivery.

The sizes you mention on your post are small to average size babies. Nothing to worry about esp since you've birthed before.

I've had an induced 9#8oz baby at 40wks - induced for BS reasons ended in section (oddly big baby was never mentioned), a 7#11oz baby r/cs at 39weeks (a very small baby for my family; big baby card was thrown at me when I was considering vbac), and my VBA2C baby was 10#8oz at 41w5d, also induced but my body was ready, with an intact perineum

My sister's kids were 10# and 10#4oz, both at about 42 weeks. no problems with her births either.

In no cases did we have GD or excessive weight gain. we just grow them big and take our time about cooking them.
post #31 of 31
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Originally Posted by happy1nluv View Post
I just talked to my midwife. His head is measuring at 72%, his shoulders and chest is were in the 90's and that is why they are so concerned... they're saying that they are worried about shoulder dystocia.
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Yeah, that's what they keep telling me too. It's not about the size so much as the ratio of head to body, and that large body can lead to shoulder dystoicia. I said, well what if it's really a small head? (and the body is actually a "normal" size?)

I am supposed to have an ultra sound at 36 weeks. I was just diagnosed with GD at the end of 32 weeks, I am now 33 weeks. I can't decide what I want to do about the u/s. Bc I don't think I will believe them whatever they do guess the weight to be.

My last two kids were both 21 inches and about 8lb 10oz and born at 41 weeks.

Andee
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