Infant Dies From Pertussis Close To My Area

[Aquafina]

So Sad =( Seen this in the paper yesterday,the baby was to young to get the shot....



http://www.kpvi.com/Global/story.asp?S=10188849


http://www.kidk.com/news/43070922.html

[CookAMH]

That is very sad.

This is very untrue:

"Pertussis is always around. Fortunately for those of us who are immunized, we are protected so we don't spread it," says Barb Brown, EIRMC infection control.

The pertussis vax doesn't prevent transmission, so she is very wrong in saying what she said. And the vax is fairly ineffective as it is, so those who are vaxed are NOT protected from getting it themselves.

[Marnica]

I know that the DTaP does not prevent transmission or is not thought to anyway, but why is it that EVERY SINGLE thing one sees from a medical person is to get the vaccine so others will be protected??

Are there any good studies out there about this vaccine not preventing transmission??

[dinahx]

Tons of people around me who are vaxed have gotten Pertussis this year. Not any non-vaxed though, only vaxed!

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by dinahx

Tons of people around me who are vaxed have gotten Pertussis this year. Not any non-vaxed though, only vaxed!

Well thank god they were vaccinated otherwise they may have gotten a more sever case.

[Gitti]

If the story is true they sure are using it to spin their vaccine propaganda with false information.

They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

[japonica]

Originally Posted by Marnica

I know that the DTaP does not prevent transmission or is not thought to anyway, but why is it that EVERY SINGLE thing one sees from a medical person is to get the vaccine so others will be protected??

Are there any good studies out there about this vaccine not preventing transmission??

There's that study looking at the whole cell vaccine not preventing transmission...
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol6no5/pdf/srugo.pdf

This one looks at the efficacy of the aP...
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1626510

[Full Heart]

Originally Posted by dinahx

Tons of people around me who are vaxed have gotten Pertussis this year. Not any non-vaxed though, only vaxed!

Originally Posted by Marnica

Well thank god they were vaccinated otherwise they may have gotten a more sever case.

Which is why I think the vax is so dangerous. Its common to think they can't possibly have WC cause they have the vax. They are misdiagnosed (even those who aren't vaxed are). So they are out coughing on everyone spreading the disease, thinking they have allergies. Meanwhile we get blamed on the transmission. Real nice. :

[MissRubyandKen]

So small, such a tragedy.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by Full Heart

So they are out coughing on everyone spreading the disease....

It is my understanding that the bacteria is spread already before the cough.

I would assume the bacteria has done all the damage (and exhausted the host) by the time the coughing starts. So the bacterium would have moved on to a new host already - except for a few slowpoks.

[SaraLe6]

My OB tried to convince me to get DTaP or Tdap or whatever they have for adults, because there is an outbreak and she said it would protect my preemie from getting it. I declined, and I was pretty sure I had read it wouldn't prevent transmission. She said they are re-vaxing all adults for it. Seems like a waste (and a gamble on health) to me..

[aniT]

They are revaxing all adults for it not becuase their are outbreaks.. (there always have been but they were misdiagnosed as bronchitis or something.) but because they now have a vax that has been approved for people 7 and over. Don't let them fool you. The only thing it is about is money and how many people they can sell the vaccine too.

[claddaghmom]

Originally Posted by CookAMH

That is very sad.

This is very untrue:


The pertussis vax doesn't prevent transmission, so she is very wrong in saying what she said. And the vax is fairly ineffective as it is, so those who are vaxed are NOT protected from getting it themselves.

WTH

:

[Full Heart]

Originally Posted by Gitti

It is my understanding that the bacteria is spread already before the cough.

I would assume the bacteria has done all the damage (and exhausted the host) by the time the coughing starts. So the bacterium would have moved on to a new host already - except for a few slowpoks.

Actually its spread through the cough, when it acts like a normal cough and cold. In the first 2 weeks is when its most contagious.

[Turquesa]

Isn't pertussis treatable by antibiotics? If so, this poor baby never should have died. I wonder if the doctors didn't catch it in time because they didn't even recognize the disease?? Or are antibiotics unsuitable for an infant this young? (Ignorant question!!)

ETA: I'm not far from you, OP! :-)

[japonica]

Others will chime in here with more info, but antibiotics don't do a lot for pertussis. From what I understand, they stop the spread but treating the cough caused by the toxin the bacteria produce takes sodium ascorbate, which I'm sure most doctors won't recommend anyway.

[Full Heart]

Originally Posted by japonica

Others will chime in here with more info, but antibiotics don't do a lot for pertussis. From what I understand, they stop the spread but treating the cough caused by the toxin the bacteria produce takes sodium ascorbate, which I'm sure most doctors won't recommend anyway.

And they only stop the spread if caught early on. Antibiotics are pretty useless for WC.

[FernG]

Originally Posted by Turquesa

Isn't pertussis treatable by antibiotics? If so, this poor baby never should have died. I wonder if the doctors didn't catch it in time because they didn't even recognize the disease?? Or are antibiotics unsuitable for an infant this young? (Ignorant question!!)

ETA: I'm not far from you, OP! :-)

Antibiotics for WC are purely for the community, not the individual. Antibiotics theoretically reduce the likelihood of transmission, but they do not speed healing. Since antibiotics destroy gut flora, they could theoretically prolong the illness for the individual.

[liseux]

Abx do nothing to treat pertussis, they only reduce transmission. The cough still can last 100 days and it can definitely still kill an infant, they can barely eat and they cough until they stop breathing. My 3 unvaxed boys got it last summer and it is a NIGHTMARE.

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by FernG

Antibiotics for WC are purely for the community, not the individual. Antibiotics theoretically reduce the likelihood of transmission, but they do not speed healing. Since antibiotics destroy gut flora, they could theoretically prolong the illness for the individual.

Antibiotics are given to infants to help prevent pneumonia.