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don't I live in a free country?!

post #1 of 23
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I was just called by my DC's old pediatrician's office and told that my DD - almost 3 years old - was 'selected' by the insurance company's computer to be part of a selective group of children's record to be individually reviewed to see that her records are being kept up to date by the ped office...what? We haven't been there since she was 2 months old, so I apologized that the record had stayed 'active' incorrectly and that their office would now be bothered...

but no...further into the conversation since I, as her DP, should be able to ask why she's being investigated like this, I find that the insurance company wants to make sure that she and 15 other of their patients are up to date with their shots...wtf?

I stopped vax's back when my DS had an adverse reaction to the MMR and the doctors would NOT report it. No big deal they said. So we switched to a better ped that didn't insist on vax's and although she recommended them, she was ok to not give any more to DS and none to DD...now, more than 2 years later the insurance company is going to investigate them not having all their vax's???

don't I live in a free country? Shouldn't I have been told that my DC's records are being investigated?!?! I'm totally drop-jawed about this! Can the insurance company forbid my child from receiving coverage from not having all her vax's??? I'm feeling like this is a total infringement on my rights as a person, a parent, someone living in a free country!

She's almost 3...she's sooo way out of the harm of any of the illnesses that she'd of been 'saved' from with the vax's, so what are they doing?

I have to now call my present ped office and have their old records re-sent to the office we're at now since obviously it never happened when I paid my $15 PER child to have them faxed over the first time!

The woman calling from the old office wasn't even moved that I lost $30...she was all like rude and crude and damn it! I wanted to stay in a good mood today! :
post #2 of 23
I'd like to say I'm suprised, but ....I'm not. This is a free country but one only gets to enjoy those freedoms when they conform to the masses it seems. As for the insurance company, I am not 100% but from reading other threads about this I think if you have insurance through a job they cannot deny your child coverage, but if you are shopping for insurance for yourself and your family (not from your job) they can deny you.
post #3 of 23
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don't I live in a free country?!
You are free to do what you are told to do. Other than that you are a conspiracy theorist who hates America, apple pie, babies and butterflies.
post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by Scattershoot View Post
You are free to do what you are told to do. Other than that you are a conspiracy theorist who hates America, apple pie, babies and butterflies.
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post #5 of 23
I'm guessing this has more to do with the insurance company looking at the doctor than looking at you or your child.

Did they tell you that your insurance coverage was going to be affected? I'm figuring the doc may get a hand-slap for not having his patients up-to-date, I think that is a sadly common practice, but unless they specifically told you that your insurance coverage was going to be affected, I wouldn't assume that would be the case.
post #6 of 23
Legislation and executive orders currently exist that would allow you to be secretly arrested and sent to a torture camp overseas without trial or even formal charges being brought against you. The government can demolish your property or steal it outright using eminent domain and asset forfeiture laws. Political protests are restricted to "free speech" zones. You could be quarantined and vaccinated against your will if there were even the suspicion that a bioweapon had been or might be used in your city. And right now, in this country, your tax dollars are continually devalued through inflation and looted through taxation to support career kleptocrats and their corporate sponsors as they openly, greedily commit the biggest swindle in recorded history.

The short answer is "no".
post #7 of 23
That is a standard review of doctors that insurance companies do. They check for things like: are depression screenings done, are certain follow up treatments done after heart attacks, are vaxes up to date, etc. They are a check on the provider, not on you.

And that check of the files is allowed under HIPAA because it falls under the "Treatment, payment or operations."

Yes, this is a free country, but an insurance company is a private entity - so whether or not you live in a free country has nothing to do with the insurance company checking on their providers. If you don't like it, you are free to pay privately with cash for all of your medical care.
post #8 of 23
My signature will give you some answers to your question about our freedom.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by peainthepod View Post
Legislation and executive orders currently exist that would allow you to be secretly arrested and sent to a torture camp overseas without trial or even formal charges being brought against you. The government can demolish your property or steal it outright using eminent domain and asset forfeiture laws. Political protests are restricted to "free speech" zones. You could be quarantined and vaccinated against your will if there were even the suspicion that a bioweapon had been or might be used in your city. And right now, in this country, your tax dollars are continually devalued through inflation and looted through taxation to support career kleptocrats and their corporate sponsors as they openly, greedily commit the biggest swindle in recorded history.

The short answer is "no".
And I thought my butterfly comment was bad. At least we still have CNN and FOX to tell us the truth.
post #10 of 23
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At least we still have CNN and FOX to tell us the truth.
Yeah, it's like having two versions of Pravda instead of one!
post #11 of 23
Yes! and think of the wide range of really toxic food products available in your local supermarket!

We are so lucky to have so many choices...
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Scattershoot View Post
And I thought my butterfly comment was bad. At least we still have CNN and FOX to tell us the truth.
And OK! magazine!
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by Scattershoot View Post
You are free to do what you are told to do. Other than that you are a conspiracy theorist who hates America, apple pie, babies and butterflies.

You forgot baseball.
post #14 of 23
this is a day when everything just screams "leave leave the country!" I want to maintain control over my own body and my child... i wanted to have another child but i am seriously considering leaving here to do it. Why is it i cannot control what happens to my body... what has happened to individual freedom, people who do not comply w/ mindless amounts of medical intervention are treated like outcast in modern society....does anyone take into consideration we are sicker than ever, and most of our water has been polluted by all these pharmecuticals.... that all this mandated medicine is not only funded by money but paranoia, How can you based your desicion on a pamphlet from a doctor with a serious conflict of interest?? with no further reading to boot!!!

We do not live in a free country! We live in a corporate country... and i'm on the verge of leaving ... before they turn my private property to a premises... i am so tired of this place... what a nightmare ... this is no way to live...
post #15 of 23
the quality of life here has deteriorated to such a degree... it's ...there are no words...none... :Puke
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by fek&fuzz View Post
That is a standard review of doctors
phew...I hope - thanks all!!!
post #17 of 23
No one is more hopelessly enslaved than one who falsely believes he is free.

You dont live in a free country, its an illusion of freedom. You have no rights, only privaleges. A right can never be taken from you, while a privalege can.
post #18 of 23
"don't I live in a free country? Shouldn't I have been told that my DC's records are being investigated?!?! I'm totally drop-jawed about this! Can the insurance company forbid my child from receiving coverage from not having all her vax's??? I'm feeling like this is a total infringement on my rights as a person, a parent, someone living in a free country!"

Sorry to say, we live in a free country in rhetoric only. This country was founded on the principles of freedom, but over the years as more and more people have asked the government to take care of them, that freedom has been taken away until now we have almost none left and since now the majority of the population cannot imagine surviving without money from the government, we will never have that freedom back.

As far as your child's records being reviewed, this was a review of the doctor's practice, not your child's health and has nothing to do with you being at risk of losing your insurance coverage. When a doctor signs up to be paid by the insurance company, he agrees to submit to these inspections. When you accepted your insurance policy, you agreed to have your family's records reviewed by the insurance company (read the fine print). This is not a HIPAA violation. (HIPAA is one more insane law that has made it much more difficult to take care of patients.)

Doctors hate these reviews as well as many other things insurance companies do, but when they try to go without the tyrrany of insurance companies, they lose most of their patients so they have little choice but to play the game. If a doctor is gritty enough to stop taking insurance for payment, he/she is repeatedly accused of being greedy and uncaring.

America is getting what it has asked for and unfortunately it is also taking down those of us who did not ask for it.
post #19 of 23
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As far as your child's records being reviewed, this was a review of the doctor's practice, not your child's health and has nothing to do with you being at risk of losing your insurance coverage. When a doctor signs up to be paid by the insurance company, he agrees to submit to these inspections.
You bring up good points. One thing to keep in mind is the financial aspect to this. Insurance companies can get ripped off by medical practices that charge for services they did not provide among other things.

There are doctors going off the insurance grid, but as stated this is not easy and usually means less reimbursement for services.
post #20 of 23
I have nothing for the OP, but I just wanted to chime in to say today is a day I really needed to know that I'm not the only one "awake". Thanks, all
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