Well then the flight attendants didn't do their jobs, because most parents are not all well versed in FAA regulations, nor should they need to be before boarding. I was attempting to buckle a thrashing child into his seat (not carseat, just seat) that I did
buy for him, and it was proving to be physically impossible, so I did the best I could. I wasn't suggesting "buckle your child in your belt" as a solution. I had a seat, and wound up doing it in mild desperation. I'd probably do it again and then transfer him.
I'm not sure how keeping them loose is safer though. It's obvious from the video posted
in the older thread the parent dummy was not able to hold the child on impact any more than the child was able to remain safe within the belt (albeit whatever special child belt that is).
Originally Posted by Eclipsepearl
But he was so miserable in his own seat I wound up buckling him in my lap, with my seatbelt, at landing. No one said anything- probably b/c he went from thrashing in his belt to sound asleep under mine.
Just so all of you know, not only is this against FAA regulations but this poster was putting her child in danger by buckling him into her seatbelt. In forward impact, she would have crushed her own child against the belt. If you opt to fly with a lap child, be sure the baby is loose in your lap and not attached to you in any form (including a baby carrier).
Those double seat belts you see on foreign companies are banned in the U.S. since they're dangerous. Already Germany has banned them and expect other countries to do the same. This has been debated in the European Parliament.
During my 13 years as a Flight Attendant, I was amazed how many times parents didn't put their children in car seats for landing because they "didn't like it". I was shocked that they lugged this thing all the way and installed it...then didn't use it?!? I used to say to them "It's okay. We're landing. Everyone's awake..." because as far as I was concerned, better a crying baby safe in his seat than an unrestrained child, even quiet, in the cabin.
Which, imo, makes using a car seat in a plane as dangerous or even more dangerous than holding your baby. Car seats take more time to unbuckle than seatbelts in a situation in which every single second counts.
The argument that the car seat would take longer to unstrap after an accident isn't logical. The whole point is surviving the impact. Getting out of the seat is just a detail and wouldn't take any longer. The fact is that the adult lap belt probably wouldn't hold the child.
That used to be why many people in cars wouldn't wear seatbelts. "In a fire, I would waste time unbuckling the seat belt!"
I think it's b/c people don't clearly understand the risks. I read one chapter in a book and was then shocked that so many people in that thread said, "well in an accident, you're dead anyway, it doesn't matter." But I had thought that too. I had never experienced turbulence either. It's possible the parents taking their kids out simply have no idea that they couldn't
hold on in a rough landing, or that the seatbelt would
be dangerous in really bad turbulence, and that many "crashes" are
survivable if you survive the impact and can get out on time. And it's the airline's job to explain why.