Considering a few vaccines

[theretohere]

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Edited by theretohere - 2/21/11 at 4:00pm

[MissRubyandKen]

Is there any specific reason for considering the Hep B at 2? It is primarily transmitted sexually or by shared needle usage.

[Gitti]

You might want to research the vaccines you are considering one by one.

Hep B - a blood disease that you get from sexual relations or drug use. The vaccine offers protection for ca 5 years.

Hep A - most kids build immunity to it by the age of 5.

Polio is none existent in the Western Hemisphere.

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by MissRubyandKen

Is there any specific reason for considering the Hep B at 2? It is primarily transmitted sexually or by shared needle usage.

I'm concerned and considering it because of the frequency of hospitalization and shots she's exposed to in ambulances, as well.

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by Gitti

You might want to research the vaccines you are considering one by one.

Hep B - a blood disease that you get from sexual relations or drug use. The vaccine offers protection for ca 5 years.

Hep A - most kids build immunity to it by the age of 5.

Polio is none existent in the Western Hemisphere.

I have researched those vaccines and the first two are ones that her HCPs are stressing as important and the Polio is because I believe keeping it irradicated is important- and because in my husband's field 3rd world living is not out of the question with short warning.

[ammiga]

Maybe get her titers checked for Hep A?

If the doctors are stressing Heb B because dd is getting shots, I'd be more worried about finding new doctors. What is going on in their offices that they think your dd is at risk for contracting Heb B when receiving shots?

Should moving become an issue for you, I'm sure you could find someone to give dd a polio shot on one hour's notice. I wouldn't vax for something that may or may not happen.

Not to sound pessimistic, but it doesn't surprise me at all that doctors cleared your LO for vaxes. Personally, I don't know of ANY children that have been told they should not receive vaccines. And I know kids with autism, neurological issues, seizure problems, and a host of other things. Doctors have this sick compulsion with giving vaccines, and they somehow convince parents that they are in the best interest of their children. Even when there are NO studies to back them up.

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by ammiga

Maybe get her titers checked for Hep A?

If the doctors are stressing Heb B because dd is getting shots, I'd be more worried about finding new doctors. What is going on in their offices that they think your dd is at risk for contracting Heb B when receiving shots?

Should moving become an issue for you, I'm sure you could find someone to give dd a polio shot on one hour's notice. I wouldn't vax for something that may or may not happen.

Not to sound pessimistic, but it doesn't surprise me at all that doctors cleared your LO for vaxes. Personally, I don't know of ANY children that have been told they should not receive vaccines. And I know kids with autism, neurological issues, seizure problems, and a host of other things. Doctors have this sick compulsion with giving vaccines, and they somehow convince parents that they are in the best interest of their children. Even when there are NO studies to back them up.

I'll ask about titres for Hep A. Hep B is pretty epidemic here, I don't think it's any particular carelessness on the medical staff's part.

[ammiga]

Originally Posted by theretohere

I'll ask about titres for Hep A. Hep B is pretty epidemic here, I don't think it's any particular carelessness on the medical staff's part.

If there is no carelessness, how would dd catch Hep B?

When you say it is epidemic, how many cases are there? And in what population?

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by ammiga

If there is no carelessness, how would dd catch Hep B?

When you say it is epidemic, how many cases are there? And in what population?

In what population- what do you mean? By age?

[Deborah]

Hep B isn't an epidemic in the U.S. except in a few narrow populations. It may be endemic in some communities, which basically means that it is not totally rare. Are you outside of the U.S.?

[alegna]

As for polio- if I was looking at a situation where I thought my child would be in real danger from polio, I would find a way to get the OPV. I haven't seen any evidence that the IPV works. It definitely doesn't prevent transmission, so from a public health standpoint, it's useless.

-Angela

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by Deborah

Hep B isn't an epidemic in the U.S. except in a few narrow populations. It may be endemic in some communities, which basically means that it is not totally rare. Are you outside of the U.S.?

No, I'm in northern MN. I can't find the reservation rates online, but I'm pretty sure the Dr. said that rates are higher here then anywhere else in the state.

[frontierpsych]

I am wondering how EXACTLY you believe your daughter is possibly going to get Hep B?

Do you think there is a chance that the hospital is re-using needles? If so, why do you continue her care with them?

[frontierpsych]

I believe the polio vaccine is meant to protect against symptoms, but does not prevent carrying and spreding the disease.

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by frontierpsych

I am wondering how EXACTLY you believe your daughter is possibly going to get Hep B?

Do you think there is a chance that the hospital is re-using needles? If so, why do you continue her care with them?

It does cross my mind to be worried, but I have no other hospital choice, especially not in an emergency. Literally. I have a clinic in town and the nearest actual hospital is 30+ miles away. I can't drive that in an emergency and there are no paramedics in my county.

[Deborah]

Well, it is possible if you live near a reservation that the rates are higher. Somewhere I read something about selenium deficiency being connected to Hep B. I'll try and find it in the next couple of days. Hep B rates are higher in China, for example, and I think the soil there is low in selenium.

[Deborah]

http://www.springerlink.com/content/181j437001g2v307/

Epidemiological studies have demonstrated that a low grain Se content is associated with a high regional incidence of hepatitis B virus infections.

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by Deborah

http://www.springerlink.com/content/181j437001g2v307/

So if I salt the rez with Se the rates will drop?
I'll get right on that.

That's interesting, but I'm still worried in the here and now. I'm not thrilled about vaccinating, but I am concerned about her contracting Hep.

[Deborah]

It would be better if the doctors got right on it. But adding Se to the salt isn't nearly as lucrative as jabbing the kids. Alas.

Sorry, that did go OT a bit.

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by Deborah

It would be better if the doctors got right on it. But adding Se to the salt isn't nearly as lucrative as jabbing the kids. Alas.

Sorry, that did go OT a bit.

That's OK- I'm always up for a little levity. I'm over-stresed about the situation and access to healthcare- a laugh helps.