Swine Flu - Page 12

[anewmama]

Originally Posted by medusaatemydog

i have to say something about this 35,000 number of flu deaths... these numbers represent deaths that are flu -related... not neccesarily the flu itself killed these people.

I hear you on your post, but I don't like separating flu related from flu. Whether these are CASES or DEATHS is good to ferret out. But even if they are flu-related, I count that as flu itself. I mean if it weren't for the flu, then the complications or related problems might not have happened. And if someone had underlying conditions first and got the flu, flu still would have been the ultimate cause of death if the person died. Separating it to me is like saying the concussion Jane Doe dies of that she sustained in the car accident was the cause of death, not the accident. But if it weren't for the accident, the concussion would never have happened.

When someone is ill, and flu is present in addition to other illnesses (ie, pneumonia), it's pretty hard to draw a straight line down the middle. The Texas boy's death is sad, and taking 'comfort' in the fact that he seems to have had a pre-existing condition that perhaps made him more vulnerable to the flu as there have been no other confirmed US death's doesn't still negate the fact that in the end, flu was what led to his death.

(off to check out the other thread under Health)

[swissmiss2584]

Originally Posted by RubyOrganique

staying out of densely populated areas and making my DH use Medieval Oil mix before he travels on public transport.

What is Medieval oil?

[Scattershoot]

Originally Posted by anewmama

The Texas boy's death is sad, and taking 'comfort' in the fact that he seems to have had a pre-existing condition that perhaps made him more vulnerable to the flu as there have been no other confirmed US death's doesn't still negate the fact that in the end, flu was what led to his death.

The boy was from Mexico and in Houston to seek treatment. I wonder what treatment he received? Hospitals kill an awful lot of people. This is just what they admit to because it is a guarantee that number is much higher.

A friend of mine came up positive on an HIV test. Very healthy man. He went on AZT. He immediately go very sick. His body withered away. He fought and fought and kept taking the pills that admittedly destroy the DNA. He eventually died. It was called an AIDS death not an AZT death. This happens all the time.

Every death needs to be inspected closely. Were there any medications or vaccinations or other treatments involved?

What people need to do is just look around. What do they see? What is their own experience telling them. This whole pig flu thing makes no sense to me at all.

[celestialdreamer]

My mom just called me in a panic and told me not to go anywhere. Since there are now suspected cases of swine flu in our general area, she is terrified that the kids and I will get it since I am pregnant and asthmatic. I was all fine in the conversation until she said that her work told her that as soon as the vaccine is ready to go they will offer to their employees. And they made it sound like that would be very soon. She works for a big box chain of Home Improvement stores.

I was so shocked that I asked her if she wanted to take a vaccination that was not throughly tested after what happened with the 1976 swine flu scare? And mentioned the complications from that. I (nicely) made her promise me she won't take it, and gave her some ideas of natural things she can do to boost her immune system. She is the same person that let them give her a flu shot when she was in the hospital with a prescription drug induced hepatitis (who thinks that is a good idea, seriously!?). I wouldn't doubt her getting the shot out of fear and not telling me.

[Scattershoot]

Originally Posted by celestialdreamer

My mom just called me in a panic and told me not to go anywhere. Since there are now suspected cases of swine flu in our general area, she is terrified that the kids and I will get it since I am pregnant and asthmatic.(

You can tell her she doesn't have to worry about the swine flu any more. They are changing the name since pig farmers are little annoyed their businesses are going down the toilet and no pigs are sick, nor are they making any people sick.

[LeighB]

Originally Posted by swissmiss2584

What is Medieval oil?

It's an essential oil blend, I believe, the same thing as Thieves Oil.

Originally Posted by Scattershoot

You can tell her she doesn't have to worry about the swine flu any more. They are changing the name since pig farmers are little annoyed their businesses are going down the toilet and no pigs are sick, nor are they making any people sick.

NPR said they were calling it 2009 H1N1 because they didn't want people in Jewish and Muslim communities to be ashamed or scared to get treatment. But yeah, I can totally see the pork industry scared of taking a huge hit.

[amnesiac]

Since we seem to be unable to remain focused on vaccine issues I'm closing this thread. Feel free to join an existing thread on the illness/virus in H&H or one of the vaccine specific threads here in Vax.