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post #41 of 481
I think you're probably fine. You're supposed to be looking for body aches and severed head ache, as well as a very high fever. If you're just feeling under the weather + coughing, sneezing, etc it's probably just a cold.
post #42 of 481
Ok yes, your right.

No fever that i know of......and only a slight head ache.

Thanks
post #43 of 481
I just realized that I wrote "severed head ache" up there. . I don't think I would be worried about the swine flu if I had a severed head
post #44 of 481
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Originally Posted by eclipse View Post
I just realized that I wrote "severed head ache" up there. . I don't think I would be worried about the swine flu if I had a severed head
I was thinking that must be a pretty severe headache
post #45 of 481
I think it's a little early to completely breathe easy that none of the confirmed cases in the US have resulted in deaths. Compared to Mexico, we have only a very small number of confirmed cases and so far the cases have been in people who are neither infants or the elderly (I think the youngest so far is 9 and the oldest is 50)--in fact it sounds like most of the cases are in otherwise healthy teenagers who should theoretically have some of the best immune systems in the population. When/if it hits infants, the elderly, those with compromised immune systems, etc., we will likely see higher rates of death (as with any flu or other similar disease).

Not to be scary...I just think it's a little early to think we're in the clear.
post #46 of 481
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Originally Posted by dogmom327 View Post
When/if it hits infants, the elderly, those with compromised immune systems, etc., we will likely see higher rates of death (as with any flu or other similar disease).
Actually, the fatalities have been in healthy adults, 20-45 years old. That's apparently one of the things that's really concerning the experts.
post #47 of 481
I am freaking out too...I live in NYC and I have been sick for the past 5 days...no fever, but have a headache, fatigue...etc. my lo just got over a cold...cough, congestion etc. not a high fever though. I'm wondering if I should call my dr. or will he think I'm nuts. last year I would have been making fun of this media attention, but now that I have my precious lo I am really worried.
post #48 of 481
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Originally Posted by AllyRae View Post
The "stomach flu" is not at all the same thing as influenza. Influenza A, B, swine, bird, seasonal, etc. is all respiratory... I mean, you *can* vomit I suppose, but influenza involves the respiratory system and is generally not focused on the gastrointestinal system. The term "stomach flu" is a bit of a misnomer.
This is exactly what I thought but I keep getting comments "your family is throwing up? Oh my gosh rush to the doctor it could be swine flu!" I didn't think that sounded right...
post #49 of 481
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Originally Posted by eclipse View Post
I think you're probably fine. You're supposed to be looking for body aches and severed head ache, as well as a very high fever. If you're just feeling under the weather + coughing, sneezing, etc it's probably just a cold.

Ah! Severed Head that sounds bad! he he! tryin to find something light in this worrisome topic, thanks!!

Am I being overly paranoid to consider no school for a few days til we see what happens? we have been so sick for 2 weeks, sick of it!
post #50 of 481
Is it also possible that the severe "colds" we seem to all have been experienceing are a form of this strain ? We are just getting over major stuff, but dh and my heads have been killing us as well as acheyness~Does a virus work like that~mutating into a lesser severity thru time?
post #51 of 481
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Originally Posted by stellabluz View Post
Is it also possible that the severe "colds" we seem to all have been experienceing are a form of this strain ? We are just getting over major stuff, but dh and my heads have been killing us as well as acheyness~Does a virus work like that~mutating into a lesser severity thru time?
I kind of suspect this might be the case. Indeed, someone said just that was a possibility in the NYTimes story I just read http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/he...questions.html I guess it's a little different, he's saying that there may have been many undiagnosed mild cases not that the virus is getting less severe. I hope so and it turns out not to be a big deal in the end.

"But in Mexico, where the outbreak began, swine flu is believed to have killed at least 81 people and to have given about 1,300 serious breathing problems. The central question every flu expert in the world would like answered, Dr. Martin Cetron, director of global migration and quarantine for the Centers for Disease Control, said in an interview, is how many mild cases Mexico has had.

“We may just be looking at the tip of the iceberg, which would give you a skewed initial estimate of the case fatality rate,” he said, meaning that there may have been tens of thousands of mild infections, which would then make the number of deaths seemingly low. In that case, as the flu spreads, it would not be surprising if the number of people who become seriously ill remained relatively small."
post #52 of 481
I'm actually kind of hoping we catch it pretty soon. If its like the 1918 epidemic, it started out mild and then came back months later in a more virulent form. I'd like to get it now so that we have more antibodies against a mutation (partial immunity is better than none). I don't know if I could bring myself to deliberately expose my family, though. I'm not that brave, I guess.
post #53 of 481
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Originally Posted by grahamsmom98 View Post
Geez, another slow news week. They have to use these few deaths, worldwide to generate fears?? (Or, to distract the public from other things going on in the world...)

Pandemic? Oh, please......

Geez, remember all those dire warnings about the possibility of an avian flu epidemic after the relatively few cases of same were reported in Asia not too long ago? Remember all those dire warnings about the possibility of an anthrax epidemic after the white-powder-in-envelopes terrorism not too long ago? Remember all those warnings about the possibility of a measles epidemic after the few cases of same were reported in the mid-west not too long ago? Pardon the pun, but those whole scenarios died out, didn't they (but, gosh, they made for great news, for awhile).

I am sorry for those families that have been hit by this illness, I am. But, I'm not worried one bit about this flu or any other flu (in this country or any other). We don't get flu shots. We will not get flu shots, even in the face of an actual epidemic or pandemic (uh-oh, there's that word again). Those that would desire the vaccination will be happy to know there are 5 spare doses of vaccine available, courtesy of my family!

I have more concerns about things like the common Norwalk virus that hits elder care residences (nursing and assisted living homes), causing massive vomiting, diarrhea and dehydration.

Sexually-transmitted diseases are far more common than this (or, other types of) flu. Check out the CDC monthly reported cases of these.

People die from conditions related to obesity, diabetes and heart disease. But, these are so common that they aren't news-worthy anymore.

Same goes with the dangers of cigarettes and their danger to everyone. Why not demand the cessation of their production? Oh, yeah, that would violate people's right to personal pleasure (nevermind what it does to those around them) plus the tobacco lobby wouldn't permit it.

Yet, where is are the DAILY public health warnings about those on the networks newscasts?? Not exactly the stuff CNN leads their broadcasts with, hmmm? Afterall, who wants to hear about old people with vomiting and diarrhea. Or, the mantra about cigarette smoking being bad for you (obviously, nobody reads the small print on a pack before lighting up...)

The reports on the news are all about scare mongering. Keep the public frightened and they will do as they are told.

Looks like it's working.
I was going to comment on this thread but, why bother when you pretty much covered my thoughts.

thanks for saving me time typing!
post #54 of 481
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Originally Posted by eclipse View Post
Actually, the fatalities have been in healthy adults, 20-45 years old. That's apparently one of the things that's really concerning the experts.
That is really scary!
post #55 of 481
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Originally Posted by zahirakids View Post
Yup scare tactics always get LARGE crowds of people to vax ! Whatever you do do not get the vaccine!

Here is a great article about beating the Flu:

http://www.naturalnews.com/023087.html
Zahira, there is no vaccine for this virus.

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Originally Posted by gossamer View Post
Please also remember that medical practices have changed dramatically in the last 90 years. We now have anti-virals, understand the dangers of dehydration and are far more likely to visit a Dr. than in 1918. ALso a huge reason the Spanish flu was so deadly is that it spread like wildfire through the trenches on the battlefields. SO even though it currently appears that we are facing the 1918 Spanish flu again, realistically, we are not.
Gossamer, air travel is even more effective at spreading disease than a crowded trench was.

Dehydration did not kill the victims of the pandemic, nor would modern medicine have saved them. That's why there's been so much concern and preparation in case bird flu becomes human to human transmissible. The only advantage we have over the people of 1918 are antivirals, provided it remains susceptible, and provided they stockpiled enough in preparation for a bird flu pandemic that they can use now.

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remember all those dire warnings about the possibility of an avian flu epidemic after the relatively few cases of same were reported in Asia not too long ago?
yes, bird flu has a nasty fatality rate, so if it makes the jump to being human-human transmissible like this virus has we'll be in deep deep trouble. Luckily it's only going animal-human at the moment.
post #56 of 481
Yes, it's rather scary.

I was in HK in 1998 when they culled all the chickens in the HKSAR to prevent the spread of H5N1 (bird flu). I was here in 2003, when SARS hit.

SARS was very scary because in the beginning, no one knew how it was transmitted and there was no known treatment. We pulled our dd out of kindie about 2 days before all the kindies were closed down. It spread all over the world. OK, only about 8,000 people came down w/ it - but over 770 people died, almost 10% fatality rate.

Last year, there was another outbreak of "flu-like illness" that closed down schools 1 week before the Spring break.


Because of the SARS, and the ever-present threat of avian flu, in Hong Kong all points of entry have scans for people's temperatures during outbreaks. They've set that up again & anyone entering HK w/ a fever will be brought to hospital and isolated while they check for various flus.

People wash their hands a lot & now here it's often like in Japan, if you have a URTI, it's considered polite to wear a face mask to prevent your germs from infecting others. People w/ URTI symptoms are asked to wear face masks while waiting to see a GP. During even regular flu season, GPs will wear face masks as well.

So, don't panic, but be careful. Mind your hygiene.
post #57 of 481
I find it quite bold of the people that come to this thread (probably for some fearful reasoning, somewhere in them) and want to send out their opinions of higher humanitarianism and potent wisdom that we , who might be a lil worried are, part of the sheep whom will be led to the herd by the big Fear or vaccine use...or whatever...are really reassuring themselves , which is great or just out to prove THEIR point. I think most who come to this one are just looking to vent.
Isnt it a bit early to be judging ... at least we should or could be grateful that the powers that be , might be looking out for the common good? even if that is the hopeful soul in me? an early response is better than none or far too late, no? ie ~Katrina ...
i don't tend to be on the paranoid side , but this strikes something in me.
Or maybe its cause my personal weekend has been quite extreme! ya never know!
Send out the good love <3
post #58 of 481
Trying for some perspective here.

Each and every year flu's kill 4000 Canadians.
post #59 of 481
http://www.cnn.com/

"The U.S. declared a public health emergency as the number of identified cases of swine flu in the nation rose to 20."

A public health emergency for 20 cases NATIONWIDE?????????

How, on earth can 20 cases out of the US population be deemed a public health emergency?

Like I said, scare mongering (and, apparently, no other news of interest to report...).
post #60 of 481
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Originally Posted by christifav View Post
I live in the TX county that closed all schools for the week thanks to 3 high school kids being diagnosed. I'm not real excited about the idea of DH or I missing a week of work, but I'm not sure I want my kids in daycare right now. We just got over week 3 of the stomach bug (absolutely brought home from day care) and we're sick of being sick.

Still not sure what to do...came here looking for non-scare-tactic info.
up until last year i worked at one of the junior highs in that district. must say i've never been more glad to be out of the teaching profession. i just saw on the news that they've shut down the city parks now too?

i work in retail right now and we have had a lot of customers from mexico lately because of holy shopping week, so i am somewhat concerned. moreso than i probably would be if i wasn't pregnant. add that to sudden onset of allergies (no headache, fever or coughing so i'm trying to keep the paranoia at bay) and it has given me cause for concern.

i'll definitely be asking my dr about it at my 35 week checkup on wednesday.
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