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post #21 of 34
I am not well researched or eloquent.

I have two mildly vaccine-injured children and that is enough. I am not going to risk having something more serious happen to this child, who would be exposed to FAR more vaxes because of the CDC upping the ante.

If I change my mind, I can always vax my littlest later, but I can never unvax his siblings..
post #22 of 34
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Originally Posted by babynitrous View Post
If the vaccinations are so bad why here in canada they make every one get them and they pay for it .. I am sure if it wasn't necessary the government here wouldnt pay for them ... whats better having your child a little feverish or possible death . Even vaccinations that are not covered here i have gotten for my son .. if you would do anything in your power to keep your kid healthy and safe then get them no one else s opinion means anything your the parent and every one has different opinions . However look at the other countries that don't have health care and the vax's they constantly have breakouts that kill hundreds of ppl , if we stop giving our children these we too will be in the same position as the other countries in our world and live in fear that every time we go out our children could come home with a disease infect the siblings and parents . PLEASE PLEASE look into the future . Even if its costly or they might get a small cold or fever its worth it . THEY MAKE THEM BECAUSE THEY SAVE LIVES ! But like I said no one can parent your own kids other then yourself!
I live in AUstria where the government pays for all vaccines as well and still my baby DIED 6 days after a vaccine and the same government claimed I killed my son and made NO effort to find out the cause of death. The only cause I got was: death by destiny (No sh**).
As my pedi put it: for the government it is beneficial to have 1000 kids protected and 1 dead but not for the parents of the dead child.
Believe me: you do not want to join my club (the bereaved parents's club nobody wants to be a member of!).

It is VERY dangerous to believe things are good because the government says so. That's what them need: sheep!
post #23 of 34
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Originally Posted by Gismobabe View Post
I live in AUstria where the government pays for all vaccines as well and still my baby DIED 6 days after a vaccine and the same government claimed I killed my son and made NO effort to find out the cause of death. The only cause I got was: death by destiny (No sh**).
As my pedi put it: for the government it is beneficial to have 1000 kids protected and 1 dead but not for the parents of the dead child.
Believe me: you do not want to join my club (the bereaved parents's club nobody wants to be a member of!).

It is VERY dangerous to believe things are good because the government says so. That's what them need: sheep!
Oh, mama, I'm so, so sorry.

for your little one.
post #24 of 34
It felt unnatural to me and somewhat unneccesary especially since we extended bf and my children are not in childcare. We might choose to vax some in the future but the amount of vax on such young children is quite overwhelming to me.
post #25 of 34
There is a history of vax-related illness/mental impairment on my father's side. Two of his sisters became mentally retarded (not to be un-pc, but that's how it was explained to us growing up - they were born in the early 50's, so it was never diagnosed as more than that) and all of the children suffered from some sort of reaction at some point (I think the mildest was my father who had to be hospitalized with an extremely high fever).

Because of this, my parents never got us (4 kids) vaxed (although both my older brother and one younger sister decided to in their late teens/early 20s and I got a tetanus shot when I was about 25). I remember when we all had chicken pox at the same time (well, slightly staggered - I was the last to actually catch it) and my mom told me I also had the mumps and measles, but it all happened when I was pretty young, before school age. She didn't intentionally get us sick, it just happened because the diseases themselves were much more prevalent.

Now that I am a mother, I'm not willing to risk my child's life by getting her vaxed (and future children, for that matter). I bf and know that by doing so, I am doing the best thing I possibly can for dd's immune system.

Not very scientific, but this is 100% an emotional decision for me - I just let the science back it up if anyone gives me a hard time.

p.s. This map is a quick lookup tool that I found interesting. Just thought I'd pass it along.
post #26 of 34
I am old enough to have had a childhood illness. I don't remember whether my mother said it was measles or chicken pox, but I had an extremely mild case of one or the other when I was nine months old. Mom said she wouldn't even have noticed if "all the other kids" hadn't come down with it. She stripped me naked, went over me "with a fine tooth comb" and finally found a few pox on my scalp so she called the doctor, who came right over (yea, housecalls were real back then) and confirmed the diagnosis. I was fine.
post #27 of 34
From my research, the risks of the vaccines outweigh the benefits.

-Angela
post #28 of 34
Agree with previous posters...and I believe that childhood illnesses are in our worlds and on this earth to mature and develop our immune system. I think it also gives children a perspective on healing and taking care of yourself. And it gives someone natural immunity which seems like such a natural process and a much better one than synthetic immunity.
post #29 of 34
Just one for us, really.

I sat down and looked at each disease, how likely my kids were to catch it, and how likely they were to have severe negative outcomes if they did catch it. And then I looked at potential vaccine reactions and side effects (just the ones they admit too, even). And what we could do to treat either the disease or the reaction. After all that, my best guess is that the risks are worse if I do vaccinate.

And then I started to get really angry. There's all this pressure to vaccinate, okay, well, then show me that vaccinating is safer than not vaccinating, with real studies and real numbers. That's not an unreasonable request, and I couldn't find that information ANYWHERE. Either they don't care enough to bother to prove it, or they don't want to get into it because while vaccination may be a good public health policy it's not a good individual health decision. I don't know. But the burden of proof is on them, and they didn't meet it.
post #30 of 34
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Originally Posted by Gismobabe View Post
I live in AUstria where the government pays for all vaccines as well and still my baby DIED 6 days after a vaccine and the same government claimed I killed my son and made NO effort to find out the cause of death. The only cause I got was: death by destiny (No sh**).
As my pedi put it: for the government it is beneficial to have 1000 kids protected and 1 dead but not for the parents of the dead child.
Believe me: you do not want to join my club (the bereaved parents's club nobody wants to be a member of!).
am so sorry for your loss, mama
post #31 of 34
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Originally Posted by Gismobabe View Post
I live in AUstria where the government pays for all vaccines as well and still my baby DIED 6 days after a vaccine and the same government claimed I killed my son and made NO effort to find out the cause of death. The only cause I got was: death by destiny (No sh**).
As my pedi put it: for the government it is beneficial to have 1000 kids protected and 1 dead but not for the parents of the dead child.
Believe me: you do not want to join my club (the bereaved parents's club nobody wants to be a member of!).

It is VERY dangerous to believe things are good because the government says so. That's what them need: sheep!
Oh My! I am so so so sorry for your loss
post #32 of 34
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Originally Posted by lauradbg View Post
you don't need b*lls, you've got ovaries! There's a lot of strength there!
yeah!!! Love that!
post #33 of 34
I agree, and whereas I allowed a few vax for my DD, my son was an HBAC and hasn't had a single injection of anything, ever. He's 18 months old. I will tell you and everyone else interested though, that my DD was allergic to dairy in infancy and still is, and since her toddler years when she ate a lot of candy canes one holiday, she became and remains allergic to all mints, including oregano and basil.

But about vaccination and allergies... my son has never had a vaccination. And while still completely breastfed, still a newborn, I started seeing the same signs of food allergy in him that I did in DD, and removed dairy from my diet, and the problems ceased. Then, egg. Then, chocolate.

Then, once on solids (delayed til 9 months of age despite his desire to eat everything in sight) he ate too many organic homegrown grape tomatoes I guess, because after a month of gorging on them, started breaking out, and remains tomato allergic. Some time later, Soy joined the list. Every day I thank goodness it isn't peanut and knock on wood.

So my point is, vaccinations had nothing to do with him being even more allergic to foods than my daughter, who, unlike him, was exposed to both dairy and soy formula while my autoimmune thyroid trouble was being treated... I did everything I could, no shots, no chemicals, no formula, no solids til 9 months, and he has 5 food allergies.

I think maybe Persistent Organic Pollutants might have something to do with our increasing immune troubles, but who knows ? All I know is, vax didn't cause his food allergies because he has them but has never been vax'd.

I still think there is darn good reason not to vax, but at least we can say, a kid can be riddled with food allergies, even if the kid never had a single vaccination.

Just wanted to put that out there.
post #34 of 34
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Originally Posted by Gismobabe View Post
I live in AUstria where the government pays for all vaccines as well and still my baby DIED 6 days after a vaccine and the same government claimed I killed my son and made NO effort to find out the cause of death. The only cause I got was: death by destiny (No sh**).
As my pedi put it: for the government it is beneficial to have 1000 kids protected and 1 dead but not for the parents of the dead child.
Believe me: you do not want to join my club (the bereaved parents's club nobody wants to be a member of!).

It is VERY dangerous to believe things are good because the government says so. That's what them need: sheep!
Oh Gismobabe, I'm so sorry.



OP, plz pm if you'd like to know my reasons.
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