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I had Vit D tested as well, that was OK.

Yay!

Thanks for the input. I'm feeling overwhelmed. I need to take a step back. I tend to over-think things too. But I do want to plan to get my fillings out.
It is scary to contemplate this, even before you have decided if it's your issue. BTDT. Take your time, read, relax. Know that _if_ this is your issue, it is treatable.

Some of the files at the frequent-dose-chelation yahoo group may be helpful. iaomt.org was helpful to me, and google Andy Cutler mercury to get more reading. Wish I knew more books that were helpful, having a book in-hand is always nice.

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TanyaLopez,

Can you explain what you mean by DMSA and ALA and HCP.
HCP = Health Care Provider (mine is an acupuncturist, which is funny cause we're working long-distance now, I moved after I met her, so no more needles for me)... Mine happens to be really good with mercury, God blessed me by leading me to her.

DMSA is a manufactured drug that grabs onto several heavy metals. It is FDA approved for lead poisoning, it's been around decades, but it also helps with mercury and a few others. It has a long name that I always forget.

ALA is alpha lipoic acid (not alpha linoleic acid, which is a pre-cursor to omega-3 fatty acids, they have the same acronym but are very, very diferent). It's present in small amounts in some foods, but even the low doses that I use are a lot higher than any foods contain. Alpha lipoic acid can cross the blood-brain barrier and bring mercury and arsenic and a few others out of the brain. So it needs to be used with caution, but it's very helpful. Some multivitamins contain this ALA and that scares the heck out of me. It is often described as a mild chelator and anti-oxidant, but I can say from personal experience that it REALLY mobilizes metals. If you don't have much, you won't notice (though everyone has some, which is why I object to just including it in a multivit) but if you have a lot, it'll knock you on your butt.

Cutler discusses using DMSA and ALA in much lower doses than most doctors do, and also dosing every 3 or 4 hours to keep a steady amount in the bloodstream, which is why I think his approach is one of the safest out there.

Anyway, it's okay to step back, relax, think it through for a while. Took me a month when I had a person talking to me IRL saying "Tanya, this is your issue." Without that, it would've taken me a lot longer (and maybe it's _not_ your issue, but it's good to investigate).
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It is scary to contemplate this, even before you have decided if it's your issue. BTDT. Take your time, read, relax. Know that _if_ this is your issue, it is treatable.

Some of the files at the frequent-dose-chelation yahoo group may be helpful. iaomt.org was helpful to me, and google Andy Cutler mercury to get more reading. Wish I knew more books that were helpful, having a book in-hand is always nice.



HCP = Health Care Provider (mine is an acupuncturist, which is funny cause we're working long-distance now, I moved after I met her, so no more needles for me)... Mine happens to be really good with mercury, God blessed me by leading me to her.

DMSA is a manufactured drug that grabs onto several heavy metals. It is FDA approved for lead poisoning, it's been around decades, but it also helps with mercury and a few others. It has a long name that I always forget.

ALA is alpha lipoic acid (not alpha linoleic acid, which is a pre-cursor to omega-3 fatty acids, they have the same acronym but are very, very diferent). It's present in small amounts in some foods, but even the low doses that I use are a lot higher than any foods contain. Alpha lipoic acid can cross the blood-brain barrier and bring mercury and arsenic and a few others out of the brain. So it needs to be used with caution, but it's very helpful. Some multivitamins contain this ALA and that scares the heck out of me. It is often described as a mild chelator and anti-oxidant, but I can say from personal experience that it REALLY mobilizes metals. If you don't have much, you won't notice (though everyone has some, which is why I object to just including it in a multivit) but if you have a lot, it'll knock you on your butt.

Cutler discusses using DMSA and ALA in much lower doses than most doctors do, and also dosing every 3 or 4 hours to keep a steady amount in the bloodstream, which is why I think his approach is one of the safest out there.

Anyway, it's okay to step back, relax, think it through for a while. Took me a month when I had a person talking to me IRL saying "Tanya, this is your issue." Without that, it would've taken me a lot longer (and maybe it's _not_ your issue, but it's good to investigate).
Thanks!
I am going to look up Cutler's book.
post #23 of 24
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and when you say the ALA knocks you on your butt, what sort of things do you mean? How do you know the metal is leaving your body?
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and when you say the ALA knocks you on your butt, what sort of things do you mean? How do you know the metal is leaving your body?
The first round I had intense fatigue a few hours after my first dose, so I know it was mobilizing metals. My kids had the same reaction. Various detox products on the market contain more ALA than I was taking (I took 50mg at a time, which is on the higher end of Cutler's recommendations) and apparently normal people buy those detox products or multivits with ALA and feel normal. I think it's sorta risky to use that as a test, though--read below for why.

I am not very prone to digestive issues (very atypical, but my mom and my son aren't either) but within a few rounds my gut was getting really out of balance, lots of signs of candida. That was the metals passing through my gut, which is very disruptive to the gut flora. One time when I wasn't as careful with some of my other supps, I had serious mood issues, apathy, hopelessness, after a round. Once I recognized it and figured what to do, it went away in a day, I think it was the residual metals that were stirred up and not excreted. It tends to be whatever an individual is prone to. I have a history of depression, many people have mood issues (some have bipolar symptoms, but depression-type issues and anxiety are more common, and I've both the latter).

I'm now able to take higher doses of ALA without the fatigue. The fatigue was pretty intense at the beginning of each round at first, I only started taking the pills (had to take them every 3 hrs round the clock for several days--that's what I mean by a round of ALA) on the weekends so my DH could take care of the kids. Today I started a round at 100mg and I haven't had fatigue, so I'm making good progress.
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